Quote note (#331)

Ace:

I don’t want revolution, I don’t want “resistance,” I don’t want violence. I don’t want to make others live under my heel (despite the fact they dearly wish to make me live under theirs). […] I just want Done. I want Gone. I want Goodbye.

— The wave of the century.

February 13, 2017admin 76 Comments »
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  • collen ryan Says:

    Ace had a nervous breakdown recently last week he went all uncucked and declared he would no longer sit idly by while his wife was niggerized. This trump thngs causing cognitive disonance in the cuckserves even the dissident right cuckserves like him.

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  • Brett Stevens Says:

    No goodbye without fixing the conditions that made separation necessary. Geopolitics still prevails.

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    admin Reply:

    That sounds completely the wrong way around to me (but you know that already). Separation is a pre-condition for a sane distribution of responsibility. Sloppy mega-states allow everyone to keep passing the buck.

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    Alrenous Reply:

    In the end, to own something means to be willing to infinitely escalate violence against anyone trying to stop you from owning it.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    To convince is superior to violence. Believe it or not

    Alrenous Reply:

    No, don’t believe it. Instead, think about it until you figure out how you’re wrong.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Violence is one of the means of convincing.

    Kim Carsons Reply:

    And you’re going have to go back to tribal social systems to reinstall the power of persuasion. All states are founded on an originary violence which is where they derive their power.

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  • SVErshov Says:

    streight to the wall

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    [In quote-note-328/#comment-308530 Feb 7. 2017] Steve Johnson said, in commenting on Scott Aaronson’s ‘First they came for the Iranians’: ▬ ” Cute — and I bet he’s blind to the evasion there. Jewish scientists and philosophers are Jewish to him — but most of humanity’s progress was made by “the science and engineering communities” — of no specific race or ethnicity and fails to see why someone could feel the same way about the white race as he does about his tribe.

    This is what I call diphrenia.

    It´s a biosocial survival mechanism.

    A dualistic coping mechanism.

    Compare with » From dichotomic to dualistic thinking: Another major point of departure that can greatly enrich future studies on how members of Eastern and Western cultures cope with life and work stresses is to focus on dichotomous versus dualistic thinking. In Western cultures, there is an emphasis on dichotomous thinking where absolutism is important. Eastern cultures, on the other hand, socialize their members in dualistic thinking where one can accept both internal and external control and be simultaneously optimistic and pessimistic. … [From the perspective of adaptive dualistic thinking] one can be simultaneously internal and external in locus of control but not necessarily use internal locus of control in dealing with work-related stress ». [S. Bhagat, J.C. Segovis, and T.A. Nelson, ‘Work Stress and Coping in the Era of Globalization’. ]

    Compare with the phenomenon of ‘shifting the blame’ & ‘projection’.

    Compare also with 4-layered or 4-strata (of consciousness & work) biosurvival strategy as mentioned in http://www.xenosystems.net/quote-note-330/#comment-309375

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  • D. Says:

    Exit on the individual level can take the form of migration from one polity to another. Why can’t Exit on the group level take the form of mass migration between polities rather than political disintegration?

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    Uriel Fiori Reply:

    what’s the problem with political disintegration?

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    Johan Schmidt Reply:

    Last one to disintegrate can rapidly re-centralise and mop everybody else up. Take up a game like Europa Universalis IV if you don’t believe me.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Why can’t Exit on the group level take the form of mass migration between polities rather than political disintegration?

    I think this question is answered in Anarchist & e.g. anarcho-Capitalist literature, i.e. literature that deals with the malevolence of the State.

    That’s not to say “mass” migration are not possible or do not happen ; so the question as you directly phrase it is, for lack of a better word, “mute.”

    The question you would wanna ask, I theorise, is — ‘why do you not think Exit as migration, even group migration, if not mass migration, between polities is sufficient enough solution to the posed problems?’

    This harkens back to the Anarchist theoretical work and praxis, which has preceded us ; the answer and dilemma being that it leaves us under the control, still, of malevolent Socialists/Statists, and, to use a concept Land already used in this thread: Sloppy mega-states which allow everyone to keep passing the buck.

    You can already answer your own question by realising that this is ribrary — i.e. Reaction.

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  • Uriel Fiori Says:

    I think a Californian Republic by 2020 is very plausible, but can understand why the neo-Confederates may feel a little sore about this (“why can they have, when we couldn’t???”)

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    Seth Largo Reply:

    It’s the difference between states rights for leftist principles and states rights for enslaving the black man. CalExit would make states rights acceptable again. Let’s hope it happens.

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  • An Fomoire Says:

    Ace has been talking about this for weeks, and he’s been clearly edging in this direction since about August 2016 (about the time he started getting serious about lifting. Coincidence?). Nothing new on Ace’s part, he’s always pissed off about this stuff, just wants to be left alone with his skull memes and GAINNZZ.

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  • An Fomoire Says:

    And a correction: The best wave of the century will be when Oroville Dam busts open in mid July (which God forbid never happens).

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    Orthodox Reply:

    You forgot about the Mosul dam.

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    An Fomoire Reply:

    Still think I’ll be more amused horrified by Oroville.

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  • collen ryan Says:

    The impetus for this post seems to be to bolster the NRX exit fantasy, Guess what NRX newfags we all want out, some of us have actually been trying for decades. The reality is there is simply no where to exit anymore. Even 20 years ago there were only places where you were less bothered but those places were soon discovered by cathedral expats who proceed turn it into cali 2.0

    There’s no foreign nations that are really really safe from all threats, most worth living in are cathedral client states those not client states are thugocracies even there a white guy building a defence force is going to bring a drone strike. Eastern europe is the best you can probably do.There you can have a front row seat when the russo/ sino team confronts nato for WW3. Same goes for asia you will find your self a POW one day. And who wants to live in Asia.

    But the bigger issue is its one thing to exit because of some minor disagreement about politics or religion. You go knowing your people will survive. But when you people are in an existential crisis because a handful of commies have hijacked the white continents, BUT YOURE TOO MUCH OF A FUCKING FAGGOT COWARD TO FIGHT THEN EXIT IS A DISGRACE> I THINK ALT RIGHT WOMEN OUGHT TO START HANDING FEATHERS TO NRX FAGS

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    Erebus Reply:

    Calexit, for instance, is almost infinitely more plausible and realistic than your Rambo fantasies. Don’t you realize that there’s no substance to your bluster? You’re all talk, Mikey, just like the “cowards” you deride. And you’re a hell of a lot worse than they are, because you evidently have no conviction; you don’t even believe your own nonsense. This makes you the greatest coward of all. What’s stopping you from taking action?

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    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    Plenty of action can be taken, and I believe some is taken. However, the world today is largely political and no shortage of weapons are informational. Our friend doesn’t entirely seem to understand that. Our kind host has probably done more to damage the Cathedral through a few essays than entire armies could have.

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    vxxc2014 Reply:

    Except that surrenders our matchless advantage of the West Coast.

    Now all America needs in the natural desert that is CA is to anchor our Western Flank on the Pacific.

    We don’t need anything else but that we need enough to war over.

    We don’t need the people.
    We don’t need the desert.

    In fact the people are a liability.

    So if Cal-Exits we’re perfectly within natural rights of men to march to the sea killing all in our path and returning it to the desert.

    This will probably be the outcome of any abortive exits and should be.

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    collen ryan Reply:

    Cal exit can only happen if every state is offered the same terms as soon as the liberals grasp that they will in effect be unleashing the dogs they will change their minds.That said I would be glad if they were allowed because then all bets are off and change is on the way and guess what its not going to e crypto locked toilet patched with coders in charge. You all claim to be HBD competent well humans are killer apes and whats a rambo fantasy is you guys thinking youre going to conquer with yout arduino robot army. Its guys like me that have built arduino units for our heating systems and experimental airplanes and race care ignitions. that are more likely to make killer drones than nerds who have never fired a gun or driven a nail.

    Its not a rambo fantasy for the zillionth time no ones suggesting we take to the woods with our assault rifles. we are suggesting we may have to take to the woods with opur assault rifles because society is breaking down theres a quadrillon dollars in credit default swaps sloshhng around. Camp of the saints is actually actually happening exactly as predicted.So just like you were too above politics to be ready for trump your will be too above fighting when fighting starts. You think you are going to read carlyle and assume power youre a joke kings become worthy by conquering the enemy thats the exact definition of worthy no one left to fight. What do you think all the men that can fight and have ambition are going to perceive your superior intellects and step aside ? have you ever watched the video of Yarvin trying to handle a audience in a cafe?

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    Erebus Reply:

    I ask: “What have you done? What’s stopping you from taking action?”

    You reply: “Its guys like me that have built arduino units”

    Hah!

    The rest of your rambling post is just bluster. It seems rather weak, doesn’t it? Again: What’s stopping you from taking to the streets, and firing the first shots in the war you so eagerly anticipate? If you keep waiting, sitting on your hands like a woman, won’t you be too old to join in on the fun when the fighting does start? And if you don’t fancy getting killed, why not take to the streets to fight Antifa agitators? Should be easy enough, for a warrior of your mighty stature. (Those guys have never built arduino units or performed maintenance on their cars, HVAC systems, or model airplanes!)

    …So, how about it, Mikey? Buy a GoPro and livestream your exploits for us, will ya?

    Wagner Reply:

    Erebus you’re making the false dichotomy between action and speech. (Marx did the same, better watch out). What is really going on here is you’re trying to impede the *action OF his speech*. It’s a heck of a lot more practical to rile up potential troops than to pull a Brievek like some bumbling moron. Did I even spell that name right? Who’s Brievek anyway?

    Erebus Reply:

    That would make a modicum of sense if he were actually trying to rile up potential troops. Isn’t it glaringly obvious that he’s in the wrong place for it, and that he’s the wrong man for the job? That, in short, he’s doing nothing at all along the lines of what you’ve attributed to him, and, moreover, is incapable of such?

    There’s a huge difference — a vast gulf — between “recruiting” and “pretending to be the hardest man in the blog comment section.” These idiots aren’t doing anything special; they’re not preparing for war any more than we are; they’re certainly not the alt-right equivalent of ISIS: Cyber Squad.

    Now, take another look at this:

    >”But when you people are in an existential crisis because a handful of commies have hijacked the white continents, BUT YOURE TOO MUCH OF A FUCKING FAGGOT COWARD TO FIGHT THEN EXIT IS A DISGRACE”
    >Its guys like me that have built arduino units for our heating systems

    …You’re giving him far too much credit, don’t you think?

    Wagner Reply:

    Erebus you’re one of my favorite commenters here but I think michael is right that there is a difference between smart nerds and pissed off assholes who go into “it’s clobberin’ time” mode. We need both of them. Maybe I’m too much of a brute myself to understand that the latter is id-iotic but I really don’t think so. I think if alt-right girls started handing some of you guys white feathers your backs would straighten, you’d start to partake of psychopathy a little more, and you’d prepare to face what is going to come.

    “Its guys like me that have built arduino units for our heating systems”

    Yes this is laughable, but this gave me a greater chuckle:

    “have you ever watched the video of Yarvin trying to handle a audience in a cafe?”

    Wagner Reply:

    Here’s a pretty stellar synchronicity:

    http://imgur.com/a/7PHMu

    Musk, if you’re reading this, put michael into space! Nerds are good for the hunky-dory humdrum world, pieces of shit like mike clown-out when the Tao is disrupted to weave the ship back on course.

    #spacemike

    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    @collen ryan I believe that it would be in your best interest to get more experience in lands and countries where daily and direct violence is indeed common, so that you may communicate of such in more realistic terms.

    @Wagner there’s a time and place for everyone, of course, but rambling about mob action and with people who clearly haven’t seen combat isn’t a recipe for success. It just feels very Internet Tough Guy.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    It’s a common trap or subtier procession to confuse masculinity with machismo.

    E.g. the Spanish had masculinity before they lost their Armada.

    Btw. I think you have a bit of Borderline Disorder.

    But who doesn’t? Have a Hamartia

    Wagner Reply:

    Danny you feels very Internet Nice Guy. We need both.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    I think the movies of Kurosawa often deal with maschismo vs masculinity

    https://youtu.be/AbbfDntoRRk

    Wagner Reply:

    Hey, Ran is one of the only movies I’ve seen in the last year! Land is Hidetora, I am Kyoami. Rough metaphor but it’s there.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    https://twitter.com/espanolns/status/824372200002064384

    shiet, 40 spanjos vs 1000 samurais

    1582, Cagayan

    Erebus Reply:

    @Wagner

    Thanks.

    I don’t disagree with your core point. Times of violence shall likely come, and, when they do, we’ll want rough men on our side. A consistent and well-formed philosophical system, and a proper sense of where one stands in history and society, won’t protect one from a baseball bat or bullet to the face.

    …But Michael and VXXC, for all their constant posturing, are completely phony. Moldbug is, for better or worse, a public figure of sorts; he has spoken in front of crowds; we know his real name (as do his enemies!); we can say, with complete confidence, that the man practices what he preaches. Do they? What they preach is direct, violent action — and I’ve not seen any evidence that they’re up to the task, let alone that they’ve accomplished anything. They are not men of violence, they aren’t recruiting anybody, and whatever point they’re trying to make has been made long ago. At this point, it’s just mindless, empty repetition.

    Besides, I think our blustering friends should know at least who they are talking to, even if they are ignorant and incapable of what they’re proposing: We’re right-wing brahmins here. (Perhaps they haven’t noticed?) Most discussions here revolve around concepts and signs, not tactics and street-violence. Michael and VXXC would fit-in better, would be much less incongruous, and may even do some good, were they to restrict their posting to alt-right forums where people want to be riled up.

    And, for what it’s worth, I know that there are people here who are capable of a lot more than programming a climate-control system. Just because one doesn’t talk about violence 24/7, doesn’t mean that one is a limp-wristed lotus-eater.

    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    I’ve had some time to consider this and would like to state that enthusiasm is always welcome, and at the end of the day, those of us on the right do need unity against much worse forces. Perhaps I am merely an Internet Nice Guy.

    I do advocate that everyone prepare for the unexpected, physically and mentally, and acquire the appropriate skills.

    Wagner Reply:

    Erebus and Daniel are trying to kill me with kindness–and it’s working! Let’s hope there was a two-way exchange of energy >:)

    Guys, you know Moldbug recommends Junger a few times?

    “unlike the aristocratic German nationalists I really do admire, eg, Ernst Jünger, Ernst von Salomon and Fritz Reck-Malleczwen”

    “[Salomon] was also a brilliant writer who made a living turning out movie scripts – before, during, and after the Third Reich. A good comparison is Ernst Jünger, also wonderfully readable if a little more abstruse.”

    “The problem is that everyone believes in peace. Okay, perhaps not everyone. There certainly have been cultures that glorified war, generally for its well-known character-forming effect. Since we were all brought up on Erich Maria Remarque, it’s a mind-expanding experience to read the likes of Ernst Jünger, whose The Storm of Steel I recommend to anyone.”

    Not to mention I don’t think it was merely a joke MM named Bronze Age Perv his white house middle man. BAP partakes of a warrior ethos similar to Junger imo.

    SVErshov Reply:

    are you talking to me ha ha

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  • vxxc2014 Says:

    I don’t think Mike’s a fag and I believe he has been in a few scraps.

    I don’t know why he keeps trying to man you up though, that was your Father’s job.

    We’re certainly not talking or info war or essaying our way out of this mess.

    NRx did help among the intelligent right to undermine the Progs memeplex, etc.
    Mostly because it’s defections from Progress like admin and Yarvin himself.
    It certainly has helped make the case that Progress is bankrupt and it undermined the priesthood class. It refutes Progress intellectually, removing them from power is being done through democracy at present and reasonably it seems will be finished by war.

    The French Revolution and Communism didn’t get in through essays and won’t be gotten out by talking or essays either. Power should pay the blood price coming and going.

    Mike stop trying. They’ll either man up or not on their own. The tide however is going our way brother – it always was. War swims right and changes of power mean war. Always.

    cheers all.

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    Erebus Reply:

    Michael is a total phony, as are you.

    You guys are LARPers. For all of your tough talk, you’ve done precisely nothing — and, moreover, you’re not in a position to do anything — so you simply dream up fantasies along the lines of The Turner Diaries, and you try to get the rest of us to play along. You think that “cowards” are people who don’t see the need to talk (and it’s all just talk) about planning violence against the government in blog comments. It’s completely and utterly pathetic.

    What’s stopping you from taking action? By what right do you tell others to “man up”? As far as I can tell, you and Michael are the most reprehensible cowards of all — those who talk tough, incessantly, but will never back up their words with action. All bark, no bite.

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    Anon Reply:

    As opposed to Shadowrun cyberpunk fantasies where you are LARPing as some sort of mad scientist on a blog where the blog owner has talked about evil Bond super villains that somehow set up cameralist micro or city states through a magical shallowly-explained process that completely ignores the aggressive nature of a globalist and robust political ideology that has worldwide reach in finance, culture, media, academia, diplomacy, and the military?

    BUT MUH NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND GAME THEORETIC DETERRENCE NERDERY.

    Yes, please ignore what happened during the cold war where MAD was replaced by cultural cold war and mutually assured cultural destruction, which is just what the left excel at and NRx neo-cam bullshit has no satisfactory answer to from a strategic defence point of view (inb4 automated leadership decision making or DAOs. Again, this is retarded, since you still haven’t dealt with the primary threat that guides and infiltrates cultures).

    The militia fantasies are idiotic; but face it, 99% of tech comm NRx is LARPing.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    As can be seen in » Hypernormalisation » by now We are all LARPing ; the question is how well or badly. https://youtu.be/KwUh-yVBV_Q

    Heck, as we discussed Teachers here recently; many of whom are LARPers. LARPing as Anti-Trumpista revolutionaries in Sex-Ed classes.

    Pro-LARPers then, as in paid.

    I welcome this. It is the return of the subtle. Of the gods.

    ▒▒▒▒

    The relationship between a civilization’s socioeconomic structure and its culture is perhaps the most complicated of all problems for the sociologist. A nineteenth-century tradition, one deeply impregnated with Marxist conceptions, held that changes in social structure determined man’s imaginative reach. An earlier vision of man -as homo pictor, the symbol-producing animal, rather than as homo faber, the tool-making animal-saw him as a creature uniquely able to prefigure what he would later “objectify” or construct in reality. It thus ascribed to the realm of culture the initiative for change. Whatever the truth of these older arguments about the past, today culture has clearly become supreme; what is played out in the imagination of the artist foreshadows, however dimly, the social reality of tomorrow. Culture has become supreme for two complementary reasons.

    First, culture has become the most dynamic component of our civilization, outreaching the dynamism of technology itself.
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    The Imperium! How mighty its aspect! How far-reaching its boundaries! As one world dies ten more are brought into the fold. Fear us, for we count the lives of planets, not men!

    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    We’re not a leftist movement. We can’t rely upon mob violence to prevail.

    Look rather to Restoration movements for how a rightist victory can be done.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    The French Revolution and Communism didn’t get in through essays

    LOL. This is beyond parody. It took decades of pamphleteering and essays for those professional-ideologist fermented & led revolutions to happen.

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    Cryptogenic Reply:

    Perhaps the difference between NRx and the alt-right can best be explained by the latter still respecting the worst elements of leftism, viz. activism. Go INTJ or GTFO.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Quite.

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    grey enlightenment Reply:

    activism such a waste of effort . activism is like a cart driver dangling a carrot in front of a mule, where the carrot is whatever news the activist has latched onto and the mule is the activist . Or running on a treadmill.

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  • Wagner Says:

    I think the potato heads are right in that *anticipating* violence will better prepare us *if* it does actually come. Remember what Moldbug talked about regarding “the Receiver”? Let’s call him the quarterback, let’s call him Tom Brady. When Tom Brady starts shutting down the Falcons do you sincerely think it’s going to be all rainbows and smiles? Erebus do you work in a cubicle or something? You know that’s a drain on T. Sneak some Ernst Junger in there motherfucker.

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    Wagner Reply:

    Do you DIAPers that cluck “LARPer” like hens think this is the *beginning* or the *end*?

    https://twitter.com/draknats/status/831164387830484992/photo/1

    I don’t want to jinx it but we need to start *anticipating*: supposing someone like Steve Sailer becomes tomorrow’s fishfood, what then?

    This forum is basically in a jinx war. The appropriate mindset is to expect war. You can retreat all you want until you’re at the void-forsaken North Pole and communistbots take that away from you too.

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    Eldrick Reply:

    “supposing someone like Steve Sailer becomes tomorrow’s fishfood, what then?”

    I know the answer to this one and it doesn’t involve street fighting with antifa.

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    » In China, New Conservatism (新保守主义), sometimes translated as “Neoconservatism”, was a movement which first arose in the early 1990s and argued that progress was best accomplished through gradual reform of society, eschewing revolution and sudden overthrow of the governmental system. This movement was based heavily on the ideas of Edmund Burke and was described in the West by the scholar Joseph Fewsmith. »

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    ▬ “Jack, do you want a meeting president-elect?

    » “We’re focused on small business,” Ma told reporters. “We specifically talked about … supporting 1 million small businesses, especially in the Midwest of America. Small businesses on the platform selling products — agriculture products and America services — to China and Asia, because we’re pretty big in Asia.” »

    https://www.weforum.org/events/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2017/sessions/an-insight-an-idea-with-jack-ma

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    » Lukács attempts a philosophical justification of Bolshevism, stressing the distinction between actual class consciousness and “ascribed” class consciousness, the attitudes the proletariat would have if they were aware of all of the facts.[1] Marx’s idea of class consciousness is seen as a thought which directly intervenes into social being »

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    » [The problem of Life vs Form] becomes virulent in modernity where the form of life is no longer something unproblematically present. Rather, the existing ways in which life could give itself a form have become problematic and are experienced as abstractions.

    Following Weber, Lukács characterizes the bourgeois form of life in terms of the primacy of an ethics of work and inner strength. Corresponding to this form of life, Lukács claims, there has been a form of art which was capable of expressing an unproblematic relationship between life and form (for example, in Theodor Storm’s case, the insight that the bourgeois citizen must concentrate on his work and entrust the formation of his life to fate, see 1910a: 60). However, when that bourgeois life-form disappeared, the remaining bourgeois “way of life” transformed into a form of asceticism which became hostile against life itself. The same holds true for the corresponding movement within art of rejecting life in favor of “art for its own sake”, that is, of a form of artistic production that self-consciously (and with justification) refuses to express life because it has no foundation in a corresponding life form. »

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    « The American Empire was one of three countries formed from the collapse of the United States in the early 21st century. It consists of the states that formed the Confederate States of America, and controls the states considered to be in the American South and Southwest.

    Shocking, as it may seem, one of the biggest loser of World War III was the United States, which found itself fractured after the war. The conservative party, along with the majority of the defense industry, took control of the Southern States. »

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    » Some of the characters of “Ghost in the Shell” have undergone a med-technological process called “cyberization.” Cyberization enables citizens to access wireless communication, internet access, and research from their minds. »

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    In the same way science and technology were recently mobilized to save the mummy of
    Ramses II, after it was left to rot for several dozen years in the depths of a museum. The
    West is seized with panic at the thought of not being able to save what the symbolic order
    had been able to conserve for forty centuries, but out of sight and far from the light of
    day. Ramses does not signify anything for us, only the mummy is of an inestimable worth
    because it is what guarantees that accumulation has meaning.

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  • SVErshov Says:

    imo dissatisfaction on both sides related to realization of fact that we need some stronger form of political engagement. with usual amount of ambiguity it is possible to suggest that ‘stronger form of political engagement’ is a production of new. alt-right’s vapid enthusiasm fueled by assumption that struggle and active engagement with enemy exactly what can produce that NEW. in this case theoretical differences between NRx and alt-right can be in how this new can be produced and what it is. 30 years (almost) of Accelerationism discourse is a valid starting point. Good example of ‘new’ was demonstrated recently by AI under nic Master P which was able to defeat on-line 50 top GO players in a row. That Master P demonstrated completely new unknown game, not based on classical GO and not in any way close to how GO played by modern top masters. if we are agree on role of technology then it seems technology chosen apocalypse over reluctant acquiescence.

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    ▬ “How can the revolution come to this? Well, we’ve read haven’t we—that all revolutions come to this. … We thought we were gonna make this into a different revolution.”

    https://youtu.be/WqL0giCY6NE?t=6m30s

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    Apparently Nietzsche had writings under the header « Unfashionable Observations », which quite reminds one of Moldbug’s title of « Unqualified Reservations »!

    http://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=401

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    Wagner Reply:

    That’s the most recent book I read. There was a moment in it that reminds me of our current cultural circumstance:

    “The lower, unlearned classes are now our only hope. The learned, educated classes must be abandoned. And along with them the priests, who understand only these classes and who themselves belong to them… The greatest danger is if the unlearned classes are contaminated with the yeast of present-day education. If a Luther were to appear today, he would rise up against the disgusting attitude of the propertied classes, against their stupidity and thoughtlessness, which even prevents them from sensing any danger… The great deluge of barbarism is at the door… Every alliance with the “educated people” must be rejected.”

    Moldbug = our Luther?

    This is a very chilling sentiment: “The greatest danger is if the unlearned classes are contaminated with the yeast of present-day education.”

    Also this is a handy “pro-tip” for us right-wing brahmins:

    “Drives that are easily confused with the drive for truth:

    Curiosity, or even the search for intellectual adventures. What is new, rare as opposed to what is old and boring.
    Dialectical drive for the sport of tracking things down, joy in foxily cunning trains of thought: it is not truth that is sought, but the sly stalking, surrounding, etc.
    Drive to contradiction; the personality seeks to assert itself in opposition to someone else. As with exhibition fencers, struggle becomes a pleasure, personal victory is the goal.
    Drive motivated by servility to people, religions, governments, to discover certain “truths.”
    Drive motivated by love, pity, etc. for a human being, class, or humanity as a whole, to find a redeeming, beatifying truth–drive motivating founders of religions.”

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    the disgusting attitude of the propertied classes, against their stupidity and thoughtlessness, which even prevents them from sensing any danger… The great deluge of barbarism is at the door… Every alliance with the “educated people” must be rejected.”

    Nietzsche never ceases to amaze does he. (If one is amazed by knowledge of the future ; which has now come to pass.)

    ‘Drive to contradiction, Drive motivated by servility to people, Drive motivated by love, pity,’ these are all things I’ve been dealing with in family members recently.

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    Wagner Reply:

    He claimed to relate the next 200 years of nihilism, so, roughly 2088, by his standard, he will be expired. Interestingly, in a letter, he said he didn’t expect anyone to understand Beyond Good and Evil until the year 2000, and he ranked his Zarathustra above BGE, so there is still a lot of work to be done in interpreting them (granted he was a megalomaniac so we should take his prophecies with a grain of salt).

    RE: your family members – yeah, tell me about it, I feel like I might as well be Satan in their eyes.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    » We know that, wherever economic interests predominate, the Jew rapidly rises and accedes to the commanding positions. The penetration of Judaism into England is not a thing of recent days alone. It was the English Revolution and Protestantism which threw open England’s doors. The Jews, who had been expelled by Edward I in 1290, were readmitted to England as a result of a Petition accepted by Cromwell and finally approved by Charles II in 1649. From this time forward, the Jews, and above all the Spanish Jews (the Sephardim) began to immigrate en masse to England, bringing with them the riches which they had acquired by more or less dubious means, and it was these riches, as we have just explained, which allowed them to accede to the centres of command within English life, to the aristocracy and to positions very close to the Crown. Less than a century after their re-admission, the Jews were so sure of themselves that they demanded to be naturalised, that is to say, to be granted British citizenship. This had a very interesting result : the Law, or Bill, naturalising the Jews was approved in 1740. Most of its supporters were members of the upper classes or high dignitaries within the Protestant Church, which shows us the extent to which these elements had already become Judaised or corrupted by Jewish gold. The reaction came not from the English upper classes, but from the people. The Law of 1740 provoked such outrage and disorder among the populace that it was abrogated in 1753.

    The Jews now resorted to another tactic : they abandoned their synagogues and converted, nominally, to Christianity. Thus the obstacle was circumvented and their work of penetration proceeded at an accelerated pace. What mattered to the Jews was to keep their positions of command and to eliminate the religious arguments on which the opposition of that period principally rested ; everything else was secondary, since the converted Jew remains, in his instincts, his mentality, and his manner of action, entirely Jewish, as is shown by one striking example among many others : the extremely influential Jewish banker Sampson Gideon, despite having converted, continued to support the Jewish community and was buried in a Jewish cemetery. His money bought for his son an enormous property and the title of Baronet.

    This was the preferred tactic of the rich Jews of England from the eighteenth century on : they supplanted the English feudal nobility by acquiring their properties and titles, and thus mixing themselves with the aristocracy, by the nature of the British representative system, they came closer and closer to the government, with the natural consequence of a progressive Judaification of the English political mentality. …

    [ The current British Prime-Minister David Cameron is the result of such breeding:

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_David_Cameron

    “His great-great grandfather Emile Levita, a German Jewish financier who obtained British citizenship in 1871, was the director of the Chartered Bank of India, Australia and China which became Standard Chartered Bank in 1969.[17] One of Emile’s sons, Arthur Levita, was also a stockbroker; he married a cousin of the royal family, Steffie Cooper.[18][nb 2] Sir Ewen Cameron, another great-great-grandfather, was London head of the Hongkong and Shanghai Bank; he played a key role in arranging loans from the Rothschild family to Japan during the Russo-Japanese War.” »

    » One-Nationism

    Benjamin Disraeli:
    * Emphasis of the principle of social obligation in stark contrast to extreme individualism then dominant within the political establishment.
    * Drew attention to the danger of Britain being divided into “two nations: the Rich and the Poor”.
    * Combination of prudence and principle.
    * Growing social inequality contains the seeds of revolution – poor and oppressed working class would not simply accept its misery. Reform = sensible – stemming the tide of the revolution, it would ultimately be in the interests of the rich, particularly with changes in the voting franchise.
    * Moral values – wealth and privilege brings social obligations, in particular a responsibility for the poor. Drew on the organic conservative belief that society is held together by an acceptance of duty and obligations. Society is naturally hierarchical, but also that inequalities of wealth and social privilege give rise to an inequality of responsibilities. Wealthy and powerful must shoulder the burden of social responsibility – price of the privilege. Based on the feudal principle of noblesse oblige, obligation of the aristocracy to be honourable and generous. This idea should be expressed in an increasingly industrialised world in social reform. »

    Indeed. »

    … it is the very forces that, in their time, were set to work against the previous, traditional European civilization that have rebounded against those who summoned them, sapping them in their turn and carrying to a further degree the general process of disintegration. This appears very clearly, for example, in the socioeconomic field, through the obvious relationship between the bourgeois revolution οf the Third Estate and the successive socialist and Marxist movements; through democracy and liberalism οn the one hand, and socialism οn the other. The first revolution simply prepared the way for the second, whereupon the latter, having let the bourgeoisie perform that function, aimed solely at eradicating them.
    Ιn view οf this, there is one solution to be eliminated right away: the solution οf those who want to rely οn what is left οf the bourgeois world, defending and using it as a bastion against the more extreme currents οf dissolution and subversion, even if they have tried to reanimate or reinforce these remnants with some higher and more traditional values.
    Ιn the first place, considering the general situation that becomes clearer every day since those crucial events that are the two world wars and their repercussions, to adopt such an orientation signifies self-deception as to the existence of material possibilities. »

    http://www.cakravartin.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/Julius-Evola-Ride-the-Tiger-Survival-Manual-for-the-Aristocrats-of-the-Soul.pdf

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    That would be, up-dated, by now the former prime minister : D. Cameron. » Cameron [who] identifies as a One-Nation Conservative », incidentally (— we just saw this moments ago).

    How knowledge of ‘Jewish power’ was made a taboo can only be viewed as a master-mimesis, geniusly executed, and also an instance, for those who fell for the meme-of-not-mentioning Jewish power, of Humans being too stupid to live.

    How the utter brain of the goyim is easily memed, is a matter of grand stupendousness.

    Knowledge of that certainly has always fueled our own arrogance.

    » Thus, as the Judaification of old feudal England was accomplished by diverse means, and as the old aristocracy gradually decomposed and underwent inoculation with ideas which would make it an easy prey for the material and spiritual influences of Judaism and Freemasonry, Disraeli did not forget his other task, that of augmenting and reinforcing the power of the new ‘Empire of Shopkeepers’, the new ‘Imperial Venice’, the reborn Israel of the Promise. This he did in a manner which was just as characteristically Jewish. Disraeli was one of the principal instigators of that sad and cynical English foreign policy by means of ‘protected’ third parties and the use of blackmail, which it pushes to the most extreme consequences. The most striking case is that of the Russo-Turkish War. Disraeli did not hesitate to betray the ancient cause of European solidarity, by placing Turkey under British protection. Turkey, defeated, was saved by Britain ; by use of the well-known ‘English’ method of threats and sanctions, Disraeli was able to paralyse the Slavic advance to the South without a single shot being fired, and a grateful Turkey made him a present of Cyprus. At the Congress of Berlin, the Russian ambassador, Gortshakov, was unable to restrain himself from crying dolorously : “To have sacrificed a hundred thousand soldiers and a hundred million of money, and for nothing!” (*) There is a factor even more serious, from a higher point of view. By virtue of this situation, brought about by Disraeli, Turkey was admitted into the community of the European nations protected by so-called ‘International Justice’. We say ‘so-called’ because, until that time, far from being held to be valid for all the peoples of the world, this justice was held to be valid uniquely among the group of the European nations ; it was a form of recourse and of internal law for Europeans. With the admission of Turkey, a new phase of international law began, and this was truly the phase in which ‘justice’ became a mask and its ‘international’ character became a ruse of ‘democracy’, for it was simply an instrument in the service of Anglo-Jewry, and subsequently of the French also. This development led to the League of Nations, to crisis, and to actual war. »

    During World Wars I and II, Agamben writes, ‘the democratic regimes were transformed by the gradual expansion of the executive’s powers’ (2005: 6); ‘World War One (and the years following it) appear as a laboratory for testing and honing the functional mechanisms and apparatuses of the state of exception as a paradigm of government’ (1998: 7). » See also N. Land’s essay — titled: The ‘F’ Word — published 17 Oct, 2016; about the expansion of the modern State.

    » Agamben quotes Arendt who writes that the camp is the space in which ‘everything is possible’ » Well by now, apparently, everything is possible in the streets of britain [sic], everything from suicide bombing to hooking up 13 year olds on heroine and watching bearded brown Muslim men rape them. https://youtu.be/fxGT-zLy_iU?t=6s

    » The historical concentration camp, such as those of the Spanish in Cuba or the British in South Africa, Agamben writes, were born ‘out of a state of exception’ »

    Indeed, at least thousands of girls were and are, in the british isles nowadays, so what’s the kvetching over a concentration camp, when you’ve been forced to become a heroin addict as a preteen by foreigners in your own small town?

    » Michel Foucault identified a transition in modernity by which the State increasingly took as its task the care and regulation of biological, human life itself. The establishment, beginning in the 17th century, of what Foucault terms ‘biopower’, a regularising technology of power that ‘distribut[es] the living in the domain of value and utility’ (1990: 144), »

    And have had cigarettes put out on your face by said Muslims, to be urinated upon by them, kidnapped by them, tattooed by them, beaten by them ; to mention only a few of shoah-like devices. The state of exception is the allowance of this by the pseudo-liberal leftoid “public” “services.” One can only imagine the faces of those human strata occupying them.

    Gee, thanks.

    » from Schmitt’s standpoint, the most significant – concept of ‘modern state theory,’ would be a ‘secularised theological concept,’ and this is precisely what Schmitt maintains, claiming that the exception has its religious corollary in the theological concept of the miracle: ‘The exception in jurisprudence is analogous to the miracle in theology. Only by being aware of this analogy can we appreciate the manner in which the philosophical ideas of the state developed in the last centuries’ (ibid.). »

    It has to be seen that the so-called value of “diversity” is little but a quasi-theological concept akin to those of “paradise” and “miraculousness.” Indeed, the inversion, the clever and demonic subversion of them. For while “paradise” referred to a walling-off to exclude, what has come to replace it, — diversity — refers to a letting in. An inclusion, of what would ruin a place.

    » The production of bare life through the exception, and the preoccupation of State power with the management of zoē, advance increasingly and in parallel throughout modernity, reaching an apex in the 20th century as the concentration camp system of the totalitarian State attempted the first ‘normal and collective […] organization of human life founded solely on bare life’ (ibid: 135). »

    “Bare” “life” indeed. 💀

    Wagner Reply:

    > shares quote about the ins and outs of the Will to Truth
    > followed by no-nonsense tirades contra Jews

    Beneath-contempt journo normies are going to think this is a pure coincidence. All we can do is ROFL at them. HAHAHAHAHA

    HAHAHHAAHAHHA!!!

    We’re not even antisemites is the funny part, am I right Erikson? We just think there is something “peculiar” going on… What IS really going on? All these Jewish bankers and media experts trying to, dare I say, “gas” white people? What is up with that?

    https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1408/91/1408910430636.png

    Really, I don’t see the greatest Jews like Maimonides, Spinoza, or Strauss getting behind this project. What is going on? I wish an unbiased voice would weigh in here.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    We’re not even antisemites is the funny part, am I right Erikson?

    No, the sub-intellectual absurdity that concludes “one would have to hate all Jews” to recognise transgenerational ethnocentric actions in their midst is as absurd as the idea that “one would have to be a hater of all Africans” for recognising that African communities in general, i.e. on average, have more crime than e.g. Northeast Asian or North-West European ones.

    It’s high time we move out of these grouchy cliches. — ’tis a new century after all.

    Wagner Reply:

    I wish an open-minded lefty lurker would pipe up and give us an account of their perspective on this. I sense that we’re incredibly *Other’d*, they just look at us no matter what we say as disgusting and ridiculous, subconscious images of fires burning and the KKK. Buddy, we’re human beings, quit keeping us in this silly little box stamped with E V I L in red, dripping-blood font.

    Wagner Reply:

    That last line was @ lefties, not Erikson btw. I am pretty certain most of you are genuinely good people – Neech and Moldbug are right that you’re secularized Christians, and Christians are caring. You care so much about humanity at large you want to remove the small portion of it that causes the rest envy and resentment. You care so much you want to eliminate the stark contrast between high and low. But I wonder why you don’t care about the high. Even in a world where all races are melted into one there will still be hierarchy, the distinction between high and low is part of being alive. I don’t think the mission of collapsing the two is the only legitimate aspiration on God’s green earth. Reaching for the heights is its alternative, and this entails kicking the crap out of one’s competition. Would you have wanted Michael Jordan to take it easy on white guys in the NBA?

    Rohme Giuliano Reply:

    We don’t need a Luther. We need a Müntzer.

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  • Comment Section Prophet – Notes From The Bridge Says:

    […] Eriksson slays the comment section over at Outside in, Nick Land’s blog, which is always intensely interesting and […]

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  • Rohme Giuliano Says:

    @G. Eiríksson

    I appreciate a good Baudrillard quote; G. Eiríksson, let’s be friends.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Certainly.

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  • Wagner Says:

    Yeah well all this “exit” and “patchwork” hubbub isn’t fooling me. Moldbug and Land seek to

    take
    over
    the
    world

    When all accounts are settled it’s the same old Anglo imperialism but under a new facade, or better yet, mirage.

    The contradiction magick trick is to *posit* plurality in speech, but in action if Patchwork became dominant there would be no antithesis to Patchwork, and so no plurality. If Land believed in Patchwork he would grant the so-called alt-right their own patch, but of course he wants to co-opt them, snuff them out, manipulate them to his will. History has shown that Despotism and crypto-Despotism are ingrained in the Anglo bone marrow, there’s no reason to presume that in the current year it magically evaporated and has been replaced by a muh liberty ideology – it’s set in stone, and we should adjust accordingly.

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