Comments on: Quote notes (#26)

By: Donald

Donald — Thu, 05 Sep 2013 18:05:11 +0000

Contemplationist,

Holocaust deniers don’t care about the truth. So if you’re a denier, don’t pretend to care about the truth.

By: Donald

Donald — Thu, 05 Sep 2013 17:18:46 +0000

If there’s nothing to this beyond the indignation we’ve seen so far, it might be worth pointing out that I recently linked to a writer who advocates the random execution of white people — including babies — as an act of righteous racial retribution, and no one seems to have gone into emotional spasms about it.

You’re trivializing the Holocaust. Holocaust denial is categorically different. Historical events are not equivalent to the psychotic fantasies of some random loon.

By: fotrkd

fotrkd — Wed, 04 Sep 2013 17:02:55 +0000

Beyond the pale is the desired destination, isn't it?

By: Contemplationist

Contemplationist — Wed, 04 Sep 2013 15:45:28 +0000

Some of us actually care about the elusive ‘truth’ believe it or not.
I no longer consider any kind of ‘denial’ beyond the pale. I only wish to hear
rational and non-hysterical argumentation. That’s it. Whether it’s about AIDS-HIV
‘denial,’ Global Warming ‘denial,’ Holocaust ‘denial,’ Vaccine ‘denial’ or whatever
other topic you find totally repulsive or beyond the pale, I fear people here simply don’t care.
This doesn’t imply of course that I or anyone else hear necessarily accepts skepticism
on any or all those topics, but that we are tired of consensus-based ideological
zealotry and thought crime punishments.
So in short, get the fuck out if you can’t handle it Donald.

By: fotrkd

fotrkd — Wed, 04 Sep 2013 10:43:31 +0000

I've been reading about Stuart Little (by way of Aesop's Fables): In April, 1938, Life ran a photo-essay called “The Birth of a Baby,” still shots from a film that depicted one woman’s pregnancy, labor, and delivery. The film had been banned in New York. Even the photographs proved too much for the American public, and the issue was pulled from newsstands in thirty-three cities. In The New Yorker, E. B. White offered a lampoon called “The Birth of an Adult,” stills of a film—drawings by Rea Irvin—portraying “the waning phenomenon of adulthood.” (Frame 1: “The Birth of an Adult is presented with no particular regard for good taste. The editors feel that adults are so rare, no question of taste is involved.”) Of course, it's not the same thing. It never is.

By: admin

admin — Wed, 04 Sep 2013 07:41:56 +0000

Since you’re clearly highly engaged with this topic, why not make a substantive statement about it, or point us to one through a link, so everyone (including me) can understand what exactly it is that you want to talk about here? If there’s anything to it — even a good reason why certain ideas should be placed beyond the pale of cultural intercourse — I’m prepared to set up a discussion thread devoted to it (if that’s what you want).

If there’s nothing to this beyond the indignation we’ve seen so far, it might be worth pointing out that I recently linked to a writer who advocates the random execution of white people — including babies — as an act of righteous racial retribution, and no one seems to have gone into emotional spasms about it.

By: Donald

Donald — Wed, 04 Sep 2013 06:51:23 +0000

How can you insinuate that Holocaust denial is simply just “hammer[ing] the Jews”?

You know it’s not the same thing.

By: admin

admin — Wed, 04 Sep 2013 05:12:46 +0000

If you don’t calm down, you’re going to be banned. This blog isn’t a Sunday school.

You’re free to discuss the mistakes, evils, or what have you of holocaust denial in a civil and hopefully intelligent way, even though you’re the only person here who seems to think that’s the topic under consideration. Shouting and spluttering indignantly in an attempt to silence or ‘disappear’ other people, on the other hand, isn’t going to lead to the banishment of anybody but you. The fact that you have yet to make a single point of positive substance only makes this outcome more likely.

By: admin

admin — Wed, 04 Sep 2013 05:11:35 +0000

Grown ups should be able to read stuff like this without getting hysterical about it. The whole ‘dog-whistle’ nonsense is misapplied here. Despite your best efforts, there’s no ideological censorship in place. If I wanted to hammer the Jews, I’d hammer the Jews (and probably triple my blog traffic immediately).

By: Donald

Donald — Wed, 04 Sep 2013 04:57:07 +0000

Chip,

Cut the bullshit. People don’t wade into your swamp because they give a damn what you think about the “evolutionary trajectory of intelligence”. They wade in your filth because you’re a smut peddler and they want to deal and traffic in the smut you peddle.