See, this is the kind of place where intellectual provocation works pretty well for “rubber-ducking”. (Ever heard the story of programmer-managers who have their programmer-underlings explain their code to a rubber duck before bugging them about bugs?) Thus the hypergraphic method (pore out/pare down) — and the problem with this comment box submitting provocations midway.

This is where I’m coming from. First, I’m not an American; the specific issues of American metapolitics sometimes work out (Moldbuggian Inner Party/Outer Party are one metanarrative to the evolution of alliances in non-common-law pluripartidary democracies, but not the only one; other things plain don’t work, because we don’t have an American South and a Lost Cause). Sure, I’ve been some sort of post-libertarian since before it was cool, but a lot of the n+1-point plan for NR doesn’t work out exactly as intended.

Race realism — what, race is literally a social construct where I come from, local blacks and local whites have been shown time and again to be more similar than african blacks and loccal blacks, or european whites and local “whites”. But the cathedralist narrative of race is here, enough that we have affirmative action, enough that same-egg twins have been declared white and black for university admission purposes.

Tradition? I’m beginning to explore this, as I’ve finally been persuaded of the absurdity of reason as ultimate conqueror. But I realized at some point as a quantitative professional working at a core Cathedral institution that answer-computing reason doesn’t matter nearly as much as question-synthetizing theory. Conan the Barbarian is on to something when he praises “fleet flacon, the open steppe, the wind in your hair” as the good life.

That’s how I get to neoreaction. Not exactly some right-wing instinct — although basic instruction in econ does set you in the direction towards becoming some sort of libertarian — but out of a nomadic kind of commitment to immanence. Now, I’ve read Moldbug in early 2008, before the Crash — when both my reading list and my workload exploded. I remember getting to his early, timid discussion of what he then termed “HNU” (human neurological uniformity), and while appealing at some base level, that does not really survive some of the real critiques of reflective reason we have — Lakatos, Latour. I haven’t seen much better from anyone drawing “HBD” blood. But naïve overexposure of whatever studies they can find is no real answer for naïve (and the point of the Cathedral construct is that there’s a consensus that has no real root of conspiracy) suppression.

Of course, it may be an effective answer; just as naïve libertarianism isn’t much to go with in the way of economic policy but it might be enough to get charter cities started. And here comes the issue of a political program — I can see glimpses of what you may be trying to do in the way of forging alliances between the N different subprograms that seem to congregate here, and I haven’t got much to say here. There is some very interesting intellectual content in the process of this cat-herding, particularly in the comment section. Enough that I feel compelled to rubber-duck some thoughts — I might not be moving to praxis yet, and what I may intend to do in years to come may not look like present-day NR at all (it’s a very different reality, to begin with), but I’m an overintellectualized type that’s just beginning to understand this wrangling of sympathetic interests into something with a higher degree of coherence and complexity.

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That said, I was fascinated with cybernetics for a while, even ressurrecting system dynamics tropes for my applied work, but it did eventually come to me that ultimately cyberneticians are improperly deriving a philosophy from their models (Stafford Beer, Jay Forrester) and pop-philosophers were using cybernetics as a plot device, as if “dynamic modeling” and “feedback relationships” had just been thought of for the first time in the history of mankind — and moreover, as if a handful of simple feedback diagrams were enough to span the entire plane of immanence. I’d never gotten to the abstraction of Hegelian absolute contradiction as a basin of attraction, but then, I’ve never seen anything interesting that actually derives some theory or philosophy from nonlinear dynamics, chaos and catastrophe theory.

Other than A thousand plateaus, of course. But that’s like asking a man if he’s a Christian believer or something.

For global warming, if we don’t do something radical right now, bad things will happen in the indefinite future no matter what we observe today – totally unfalsifiable.

For universal pre-K, we should do something radical now, but don’t judge the results quite yet, because they will be positive and awesome, just eventually in the indefinite future. And if they aren’t, we didn’t do it quite right, so we’ll try a new twist, and wait for another indefinite period.

But I submit that there is something unique about a panic that cannot be falsified because the predicted impending catastrophe will occur a century in the indefinite future, yet always with ‘signs’ all about.

There’s a good summary of received wisdom/PC pseudotruth that goes against the very grain of the facts. There isn’t however, much of a critique of this received wisdom. Instead, we get this very tired appeal to coastal elites vs. Heartland America that falls flat to anyone who lives most of his time outside both.

Going a bit off-topic, re: Hegelian dialectics (in last post’s thread). I don’t think I’m either incisive enough or annoying enough to get at you, but I’m sorry if I did. I’m a great admirer of Fanged Noumena; I sure get in a Socratic “fly in the ointment

You’re correct in observing that it’s a high-risk strategy, as the Antarctic icebreaker incident (inter alia: the AR5 embarrassment, Climategate etc) is showing. But common sense tells us that high-risk strategies are pursued when there’s a high reward. So what’s the reward of success at this strategy? The reward is: control over allocation of fossil fueled energy, a huge reward.

We must find their Poland.

And we must closely examine their bankrupt and parasitic finances as the USSR’s economy was examined.

QE and all the other Fed and Central Bank Fiat nonsense are basically MeFo’s or make believe Trade Money to keep the machine going. The Arms Races of the 1930s were often financed by inflationary methods or Trade Money, the most outstanding example being Germany with the MeFo. In our case the Finance Race is funded entirely by make believe and a threat of Mutual Assured Discussion that isn’t credible, for Finances MAD destroys their world as opposed to all life on earth.

This meets the criteria of an exploit begging to happen. The Financial weakness must be examined and exploited. With such High Equilibrium it’s quite feasible for a small group to find a Hetronic String and unravel the entire organization Remember the Progs are an Army always marching, and an Army marches on it’s stomach.

And again find their Poland [a group of people chafing for their lost freedom and sense of self and pride].

I can suggest a potential Poland…guess who…

https://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/nsdd/nsdd-75.pdf

Once that kind of fervent belief has been etched, it’s not easy for someone to retreat from it.

If you aren’t broken enough to get into some serious grievance studies, its the only game on the left.