It would be nice to have some kind of “finger” command or look-up table for reactionaries that would return a particular writer’s declared favorite flavor of political organization. Maybe someone could make a top five list of the proposals that have been floated and ask each participant to state his level of despair on a scale of 1-10 for each proposal?

What would such a list look like? Moldbug sometimes advocates some sort of corporate structure. VXXC seems to favor limited franchise democracy. Collectively, we’ve been accused of being monarchists, with reason. (But there are multiple flavors.) Several people are likely to say that it’s the wrong question, and the real issue is religion, voice vs. exit, or something else.

What would be the consequences of this?

Our elections and hence parties are Fraudulent. Democracy decides nothing. The Dems aren’t the Party of White House and the Senate, they’re the Party of Government. If by Divine or Infernal intervention the Dems were to suddenly become acually you know democrats the party of Patron/Client Government would either dispense with the formality without power altogether or put their own party together. New York has this, it’s called The Working Families Party. Patron/Client with NGOs [Patron and Client] in a direct leading role. For all we know this is what may happen if the GOP self-destructs, which BTW it seems intent on doing – see Immigration.

The Tea Party kills the GOP by not showing up to Vote. White people walked away by millions in 2012. Quite apart from NR – and in fact utterly independent of even being aware of it’s existence – the American Majority demographic realizes it has no representation. The best thing for the Tea Party to do is exactly what it is doing, nothing. It failed. It has the decency to be silent.

There’s no hope for the GOP in either reform [gag] or capture or any scenario. If there were then it’s still irrelevant. See my analysis above. Voting is irrelevant to decision making,
the democracy has been consultative not decisive for decades.

What’s changed is with the Prog degeneracy they are just saying [literally] “So What?” out in the open. The mask is off. This is both opportunity and gauntlet being thrown down. As well as Constitutional Law Professors et al saying we should just formally recognize the Consitution is an impediment to progress and I very heartedly agree and we should declare it officially deceased.

(Let us remember democracy was in fact amended to the Original Constitution. For later of course)

@Mr Taylor – NO. We don’t want to defraud the people into thinking they have a vote any longer.
We don’t in particular want the majority of the country – White – defrauded into thinking they have representation. We don’t. Other than naked Hostility and animus as policy. Being De-Frauded isn’t a real choice. We have no Voice.

Tea Party is dead or intimidated. It’s very existence however brief is heartening, the victims roused themselves at the last moment and cannot be accused of not trying to use electoral processes. That’s important – to be cornered and to know admit we’re cornered. This has now quite definitively failed. And to return to Immigration the former GOP voters are now being openly betrayed along with the countries borders to alien barbarians bought in to not so much to vote as to become Clients of the Patronage Racket Divisions of our Government. As Whites have been so passive the rather dull types in our government expect them to continue to pay.

That we have Voice is Fraud, it needs to be admitted openly at last.

The Proper Course for DEC is to destroy the Progs. The Proper course of NeoReaction is to offer not Voice but EXIT to Proto-Conservatives, EXIT to their culture, their Polis, their Traditions .

Exit is another way of saying “Home”.

The argument against the GOP is that, without a Neutered False Opposition, far larger numbers of people would flock to the Dark Enlightenment. I’m inclined to think that this argument wrongly attributes the influence of the Cathedral to the GOP.

Peter, here’s the formulation:

Step 1: Destroy the GOP. (or just let it wind down on its own)
Step 2: Fill vacuum with replacement political alternative (all these DE/NR guys workin’ on it, with credible start thus far)
Step 3: Crown Hereditary Prince Alois King of the Anglosphere (fine)

“Reforming” or “taking over” the GOP– why? How well did perestroika work out? I mean– what’s the point? This would be the equivalent of the bolshies “taking over” the Kerensky govt. Dampier is right– let the Progs have their USG, Detroits, o/s interventions, etc– they can “own” all that and we’ll silently begin moving with our feet into sustainable future-oriented spaces & communities (ok, this gets murky and is a bit TBA).

If you really think that the hearts and minds of the conservative mass is useful, and if you think that the GOP must be destroyed, the best way to accomplish it probably isn’t criticizing it as useless from an outsider with the avowed perspective of making it go away. The best way is from the inside. Civil war.

Although in this case we might want to slow down collapse?