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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2014 00:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing good will happen with the current Prog elites, for they mean Harm.

The system may be tinkered with all one likes, they&#039;ll turn it to harm and profit from the harm.  Indeed they&#039;ll build businesses around the Harm.

They.Gotta.Go.

I like the import certificates however.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing good will happen with the current Prog elites, for they mean Harm.</p>
<p>The system may be tinkered with all one likes, they&#8217;ll turn it to harm and profit from the harm.  Indeed they&#8217;ll build businesses around the Harm.</p>
<p>They.Gotta.Go.</p>
<p>I like the import certificates however.</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/quote-notes-69/#comment-37076</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 19:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Handle,

I agree completely just not as convincingly as you. Especially on the children of Helots.

That is the most convincing and cogent, pithy argument I&#039;ve ever read and I&#039;m stealing it.

Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Handle,</p>
<p>I agree completely just not as convincingly as you. Especially on the children of Helots.</p>
<p>That is the most convincing and cogent, pithy argument I&#8217;ve ever read and I&#8217;m stealing it.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Grotto</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 15:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an amazing, facinating quote. The HBD-aware Sinosphere watchers of the early 1900&#039;s seem like a rich vein of research for neoreaction to mine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an amazing, facinating quote. The HBD-aware Sinosphere watchers of the early 1900&#8217;s seem like a rich vein of research for neoreaction to mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Alat</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/quote-notes-69/#comment-36970</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 05:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Diosy is indeed a gold mine. There&#039;s more of him in the relevant chapters of the first two volumes of &lt;i&gt;The Book of History&lt;/i&gt;, a turn-of-the-century general history. There you&#039;ll also find some interesting articles by Max von Brandt, founder of the German Ostasiatische Gesellschaft and top Wilhelmine German diplomat in the East, who wrote about China. The three volumes of Brandt&#039;s memoirs of the east (&quot;Dreiundreissige Jahren in Ostasien&quot;) are waiting their turn in my reading list.

Links to the two first volumes of the BoH follow.

FIRST
https://archive.org/stream/bookofhistoryhis01bryc#page/n13/mode/2up

SECOND
https://archive.org/stream/bookofhistoryhis02bryc#page/n9/mode/2up]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diosy is indeed a gold mine. There&#8217;s more of him in the relevant chapters of the first two volumes of <i>The Book of History</i>, a turn-of-the-century general history. There you&#8217;ll also find some interesting articles by Max von Brandt, founder of the German Ostasiatische Gesellschaft and top Wilhelmine German diplomat in the East, who wrote about China. The three volumes of Brandt&#8217;s memoirs of the east (&#8220;Dreiundreissige Jahren in Ostasien&#8221;) are waiting their turn in my reading list.</p>
<p>Links to the two first volumes of the BoH follow.</p>
<p>FIRST<br />
<a href="https://archive.org/stream/bookofhistoryhis01bryc#page/n13/mode/2up" rel="nofollow">https://archive.org/stream/bookofhistoryhis01bryc#page/n13/mode/2up</a></p>
<p>SECOND<br />
<a href="https://archive.org/stream/bookofhistoryhis02bryc#page/n9/mode/2up" rel="nofollow">https://archive.org/stream/bookofhistoryhis02bryc#page/n9/mode/2up</a></p>
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		<title>By: Blogospheroid</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/quote-notes-69/#comment-36969</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blogospheroid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 05:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@5371,

The time i wanted to refer to is 2055.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/09/20/business/World-Population-Could-Peak-by-2055.html?_r=0

 I don&#039;t know why I remembered it as 2040. My mistake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@5371,</p>
<p>The time i wanted to refer to is 2055.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/09/20/business/World-Population-Could-Peak-by-2055.html?_r=0" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/09/20/business/World-Population-Could-Peak-by-2055.html?_r=0</a></p>
<p> I don&#8217;t know why I remembered it as 2040. My mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/quote-notes-69/#comment-36963</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[admin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 04:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Occidental deep-cultural structure of sinophobia-technophobia convergence is a special research interest of mine, for which that reference is a gold mine. Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Occidental deep-cultural structure of sinophobia-technophobia convergence is a special research interest of mine, for which that reference is a gold mine. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Alat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 03:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pages 337-339, I forgot to mention.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pages 337-339, I forgot to mention.</p>
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		<title>By: Alat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 03:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seeing the Stoddard quote, I can&#039;t resist transcribing a passage from another observer, Arthur Diosy, founder of the British &quot;Japan Society&quot;, in the fourth edition (1904) of his &lt;i&gt;The New Far East&lt;/i&gt; (a very interesting book, by the way). The quote is long but good:

&lt;i&gt;Were we mindful only of our own interests; did not philanthropy, which knows no distinction of race, or of nationality, fill the hearts of some of us; did greed, lusting after the fortunes to be made out of an awakened China, not animate others; did these opposite feelings not combine to  sway the minds of many more, we should fervently pray that the Celestial Empire might continue in its lethargic slumber for evermore. Once the many millions of China call in the hitherto despised aid of Western science, they will not for long be content to employ it chiefly for the benefit of the Occident.

The busy factories, such as the one Kubota has prophetically depicted, where docile, intelligent Chinese will work in swarms, for fifteen hours out of the twenty-four, under this skilled guidance of Occidentals, will, in due course, be succeeded by similar establishments conducted, on their own account, by scientifically - trained Chinese. Imagination falters at the contemplation of the prospect. What chance will the workers of the Occident, striving daily to do less work for higher wages, have against the teeming millions of Chinese, sober, docile, marvellously thrifty, intelligent and skilful, working, unremittingly and cheerfully, for pay that would keep them in comfort, but on which no Occidental could live ?

[...]

Here is food for reflection for the Occidental industrial classes, high and low, especially for those who contribute their labour. If a correct appreciation of the industrial possibilities of the New Far East - possibilities that will be probabilities next year, and certainties within this generation - could be brought home to the Occidental workers, Capital and Labour would, if not entirely bereft of reason, cease their internecine strife. Here is a question for our Socialists, of various shades, to consider. How do they propose, if any of their social systems be put into operation, to cope with the competition of the Yellow Multitudes, to whom Socialism is as naught ? &lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing the Stoddard quote, I can&#8217;t resist transcribing a passage from another observer, Arthur Diosy, founder of the British &#8220;Japan Society&#8221;, in the fourth edition (1904) of his <i>The New Far East</i> (a very interesting book, by the way). The quote is long but good:</p>
<p><i>Were we mindful only of our own interests; did not philanthropy, which knows no distinction of race, or of nationality, fill the hearts of some of us; did greed, lusting after the fortunes to be made out of an awakened China, not animate others; did these opposite feelings not combine to  sway the minds of many more, we should fervently pray that the Celestial Empire might continue in its lethargic slumber for evermore. Once the many millions of China call in the hitherto despised aid of Western science, they will not for long be content to employ it chiefly for the benefit of the Occident.</p>
<p>The busy factories, such as the one Kubota has prophetically depicted, where docile, intelligent Chinese will work in swarms, for fifteen hours out of the twenty-four, under this skilled guidance of Occidentals, will, in due course, be succeeded by similar establishments conducted, on their own account, by scientifically &#8211; trained Chinese. Imagination falters at the contemplation of the prospect. What chance will the workers of the Occident, striving daily to do less work for higher wages, have against the teeming millions of Chinese, sober, docile, marvellously thrifty, intelligent and skilful, working, unremittingly and cheerfully, for pay that would keep them in comfort, but on which no Occidental could live ?</p>
<p>[&#8230;]</p>
<p>Here is food for reflection for the Occidental industrial classes, high and low, especially for those who contribute their labour. If a correct appreciation of the industrial possibilities of the New Far East &#8211; possibilities that will be probabilities next year, and certainties within this generation &#8211; could be brought home to the Occidental workers, Capital and Labour would, if not entirely bereft of reason, cease their internecine strife. Here is a question for our Socialists, of various shades, to consider. How do they propose, if any of their social systems be put into operation, to cope with the competition of the Yellow Multitudes, to whom Socialism is as naught ? </i></p>
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		<title>By: RiverC</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2014 15:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This suggests however, they will create a race of Uberantiprogressives, survivalistic, hard headed, traditional, aegalitarian (having no specific preferences for social equality) vigilantistic, and ultra-industrious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This suggests however, they will create a race of Uberantiprogressives, survivalistic, hard headed, traditional, aegalitarian (having no specific preferences for social equality) vigilantistic, and ultra-industrious.</p>
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		<title>By: MW</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2014 12:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right, and I remember reading somewhere about how Grievance Studies mostly developed as a reaction to the failure of Western proles to usher in #fullcommunism -- need a new revolutionary subject (i.e. the student, black people, postcolonials, women, queers, etc.) -- so it makes sense that brain-dead lefties would want to totally destroy the American worker to make him more malleable to whatever designs they have. I doubt most of them are really conscious of what they&#039;re doing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, and I remember reading somewhere about how Grievance Studies mostly developed as a reaction to the failure of Western proles to usher in #fullcommunism &#8212; need a new revolutionary subject (i.e. the student, black people, postcolonials, women, queers, etc.) &#8212; so it makes sense that brain-dead lefties would want to totally destroy the American worker to make him more malleable to whatever designs they have. I doubt most of them are really conscious of what they&#8217;re doing.</p>
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