Radish does Irreligion

The Moldbuggian sublime — a crushing immensity that releases intelligence into awe-stricken ecstasy — has settled in at Radish quite decisively. The latest installment, which embeds the phenomenon of ‘New Atheism’ within the deep historical tide of revolutionary rationalist irreligion, is a masterpiece of the genre (and in its own right). After several thousand words of relentless contextualization, it is impossible to read the confused stammerings of contemporary ‘reason’ without hearing the clattering leftist ruin-ratchet beneath. “[Skeptic magazine editor-in-chief and executive director of the Skeptics Society Michael] Shermer is surprised, like Lavoisier and Condorcet before him, to find his own head upon the chopping block of Moral Progress, but no lessons are learned (2013) …”

By the time Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins are led, dazed and indignant, to the scaffold of revolutionary disbelief, the entire process has an almost hypnotic inevitability. Wasn’t the cause supposed to be intellectual liberty? If, after reading this piece, such derangement doesn’t elicit morbid amusement, you’re probably going to need to read it again.

ADDED: Has Richard Dawkins lost the Mandate of Heaven?

September 23, 2014admin 18 Comments »


18 Responses to this entry

  • Lesser Bull Says:

    Tour de force.


    Rasputin Reply:


    Above all, Radish is a fantastic reader, who reworks his reference material into dizzyingly subversive tapestries of liberated thought. He has drunk deep from the well Moldbug dug, and isn’t afraid to piss in public.


    Max Reply:

    I am not entirely convinced that Radish isn’t just another pseudonym under which MM has been publishing all along.


    Rasputin Reply:

    I don’t think so. It reads more like someone processing MM’s insights (brilliantly) via copious background reading…

    Max Reply:

    I don’t think so either. That’s why I phrased the speculation as I did. But I definitely get the same “vibe” from reading both MM and Radish, and it’s a vibe that I almost never get anywhere else.

    Contemplationist Reply:

    I can assure you he’s an entirely different person.

    Nick B. Steves Reply:

    I second Contemplationist’s assurance. Same page. Different dudes.

    Lesser Bull Reply:

    Guys, unless you show you are third-level initiates into the Grand Masters of NRx, Ima not gonna believe you. Produce your phenotypes for inspection.

    Posted on September 23rd, 2014 at 5:29 pm Reply | Quote
  • John Says:

    All religions should should be ridiculed and destroyed.

    Except for Islam and probably Judaism. Let’s add everything vibrant to the safe list as well.

    Religion is child abuse.

    But not real child abuse like gangs of Asians perpetrate.

    Or black football players. But don’t forget football players are also men.

    And anyways that was just a whoopin. Clearly a white man is the original cause.

    White men always cause trouble. Wherever they show up and start ordering people around.

    Kill kill kill. The white man.

    I prostrate myself before thee, Rationality, and beg for purification by the fire of Reason.


    Posted on September 23rd, 2014 at 7:40 pm Reply | Quote
  • John Says:

    Elsewhere, David Icke is sounding extremely neoreactionary: http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2014/09/RIR-140904.php


    Posted on September 23rd, 2014 at 7:48 pm Reply | Quote
  • SanguineEmpiricist Says:

    At my first introduction to Moldbug, I was so confused at the specific references to dissent, then after a long period of exposure, burke, maistre, and then on. Now it’s so horribly frightening.

    I wonder, whatever this memetic ‘thing’ is, can we operationalize it and try to engineer some solution game? Or is merely holding to a specific ratio-empirical tradition enough?

    Reading new atheism just seems like secular fanaticism.


    Peter A. Taylor Reply:

    No. All you can do is go insane and hope to get eaten first.


    Nick B. Steves Reply:

    Memes can be killed by competing memes, or they can kill themselves (by evolving to be even more morbid and maladaptive). I’d like to think, perhaps a conceit, that #Nrx is working on both fronts.

    The short game is #AAA: trying to get prog memes evolve faster to bring progressivism’s inherent and embarrassing incoherency and maladaptivness to the bright light of day, whereupon it’s legitimacy could crumble to dust in an instant.

    The long game: creating an Oppositional Pole of Social Status in which basic assumptions, and even the resultant psychology, of progressivism are held in contempt. You thought it was cool to be prog, that it would make you rich, that it would get you laid. Ha ha, here’s what all the REALLY COOL guys are doing… maybe you should be more like them, eh?


    Posted on September 23rd, 2014 at 10:28 pm Reply | Quote
  • blankmisgivings Says:

    Seems more like windbaggery to me. Juxtapose the sophomoric musings of charlatans like Christopher Hitchins and Sam Harris with various ‘secular’ genocides and terrors with the plaintive rhetoric of the French anti-enlightenment. Problems of world history sorted? Leftists melt like the witch of the west?
    A brief alternative take on this ‘material’: Taine’s reference to the ‘French national market’ in Radish’s last citation is indicative – perhaps ‘secular’ violence (French, Bolshevik, Maoist) is ‘national market’ violence? A violent path to ‘catch up’ in the face of capital-national competition, lashing out at patrimonial structures like the church that represent barriers to the cherished ‘modernity’ and at the ground level represent a threat to industrial and military re-organization for international competition?
    Some nations (GB, Japan) manage to make this ‘transition’ relatively (stress on this word) non genocidally, other, later comers do not; the USA is exempted by its already non patrimonial status. Religion and ideology are epiphenomenal to this story.


    Posted on September 24th, 2014 at 2:59 pm Reply | Quote
  • an inanimate aluminum tube Says:

    So what religion should we join?


    Nick B. Steves Reply:

    Jim’s Leprechaun religion would do just fine. So long as it is old, incensy, and very VERY hard to game.


    Posted on September 25th, 2014 at 2:27 pm Reply | Quote
  • vinteuil Says:

    I’ve long thought that MM, Unamused, & Karl F. Boetel were all the same guy.

    But Contemplationist assures us that he’s an entirely different person.

    (Sorry for the ambiguity, there)



    Contemplationist Reply:

    Yes Unamusement and Radish are clearly the same person. Hell you didn’t mean any inside info to infer this. But MM is very very different.


    Posted on September 26th, 2014 at 9:27 pm Reply | Quote

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