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		<title>By: Kgaard</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/reaction-points-6-2/#comment-12857</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;@Kgaard&lt;/strong&gt;
Well ... to me it&#039;s not a coincidence that each of the two big devaluations of the 20th century (1933 and 1971) came soon after expansions of the right to vote to weaker members of society (first to women, then to blacks). Yes, we had a gold standard and fractional reserve banking til 1971, but it was crumbling by 1968. Also, it&#039;s pretty clear bankers ran on less leverage in the pre-1971 era. So if we reduced the leverage that would help.

That said ... it&#039; seems to me it&#039;s a very rare thing for a country to go 100 years with stable money. The Romans had periodic devaluations, for instance. Yes, the English and the Americans have put up 200-year spans of monetary stability -- but again these were with limited voter participation and hugely growing economies.

Still ... I&#039;m not sure we need to worry much about inflation for the next 50 years. It&#039;s the wrong thing to worry about. You can have a little bit of monetary erosion and it is offset by increasing efficiencies of production. So, for instance, the real cost of airplane tickets is pretty low. 

Where will truly stable money come from? I don&#039;t know. I used to think gold was stable in real terms, but now I&#039;m a little less sure given how much it&#039;s outperformed the last few years. Bitcoin is NOT stable money because it&#039;s always rising in value, which freaks me out. 

So, it seems to me central bankers do about the best thing you can do, which is target bond yields, CPI and growth, all with an eye toward reasonably strong growth and reasonably low inflation. It&#039;s worked out reasonably well. In emerging markets, monetary policy is now RADICALLY better than before the 1997-98 crash. I just got back from Jakarta, for instance, and the place has never looked better. That&#039;s because the currency hasn&#039;t been pegged for 15 years and central bankers have learned their trade, allowing interest rates to fall to single digits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Kgaard</strong><br />
Well &#8230; to me it&#8217;s not a coincidence that each of the two big devaluations of the 20th century (1933 and 1971) came soon after expansions of the right to vote to weaker members of society (first to women, then to blacks). Yes, we had a gold standard and fractional reserve banking til 1971, but it was crumbling by 1968. Also, it&#8217;s pretty clear bankers ran on less leverage in the pre-1971 era. So if we reduced the leverage that would help.</p>
<p>That said &#8230; it&#8217; seems to me it&#8217;s a very rare thing for a country to go 100 years with stable money. The Romans had periodic devaluations, for instance. Yes, the English and the Americans have put up 200-year spans of monetary stability &#8212; but again these were with limited voter participation and hugely growing economies.</p>
<p>Still &#8230; I&#8217;m not sure we need to worry much about inflation for the next 50 years. It&#8217;s the wrong thing to worry about. You can have a little bit of monetary erosion and it is offset by increasing efficiencies of production. So, for instance, the real cost of airplane tickets is pretty low. </p>
<p>Where will truly stable money come from? I don&#8217;t know. I used to think gold was stable in real terms, but now I&#8217;m a little less sure given how much it&#8217;s outperformed the last few years. Bitcoin is NOT stable money because it&#8217;s always rising in value, which freaks me out. </p>
<p>So, it seems to me central bankers do about the best thing you can do, which is target bond yields, CPI and growth, all with an eye toward reasonably strong growth and reasonably low inflation. It&#8217;s worked out reasonably well. In emerging markets, monetary policy is now RADICALLY better than before the 1997-98 crash. I just got back from Jakarta, for instance, and the place has never looked better. That&#8217;s because the currency hasn&#8217;t been pegged for 15 years and central bankers have learned their trade, allowing interest rates to fall to single digits.</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/reaction-points-6-2/#comment-12852</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course we disenfranchise the weak.   

I wouldn&#039;t bet the farm on no hard money.   Nor would the actual farmers.  

Somehow the world had both a gold standard and fractional banking [if I have to choose between the two, that&#039;s so easy, but I&#039;m not a speculator] until 1971, or 1933/1913 if you like, but it did exist.  

We have an interesting situation under managerial progressivism of a electoral coaltiion of the the very weak [mostly by choice] and super-predators of government and finance.    Both must be disenfranchised, the latter is disenfranchised by hard money.    That&#039;s why it&#039;s unthinkable to speculators, and why it must happen.  

The value of goods will meet the value of  trustworthy money available, that&#039;s something that can be trusted because it&#039;s the story of man and money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course we disenfranchise the weak.   </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t bet the farm on no hard money.   Nor would the actual farmers.  </p>
<p>Somehow the world had both a gold standard and fractional banking [if I have to choose between the two, that&#8217;s so easy, but I&#8217;m not a speculator] until 1971, or 1933/1913 if you like, but it did exist.  </p>
<p>We have an interesting situation under managerial progressivism of a electoral coaltiion of the the very weak [mostly by choice] and super-predators of government and finance.    Both must be disenfranchised, the latter is disenfranchised by hard money.    That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s unthinkable to speculators, and why it must happen.  </p>
<p>The value of goods will meet the value of  trustworthy money available, that&#8217;s something that can be trusted because it&#8217;s the story of man and money.</p>
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		<title>By: Kgaard</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/reaction-points-6-2/#comment-12834</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vladimir is correct to say you can&#039;t have a gold standard together with fractional-reserve banking. That&#039;s a good insight that most Austrians gloss over. So which one has to go? One reasonable answer is to sharply raise bank capital requirements and lending standards. Turkey had no banking crisis post-2008 because their banks had like 16% capital ratios and demand very good collateral for making loans. Ditto Sri Lanka.

But the idea we&#039;re going to get rid of fractional-reserve banking ... well ... it just isn&#039;t going to happen. 

Here&#039;s something else to consider: It could be that the aging global population coupled with DECLINING population in some countries could bring a greater risk of DE-flation than inflation (see Japan). Also, with Third-World IQs going up, instances of hyperinflation become rarer. 

From a Kondratieff perspective, the 2008 crash could be viewed as a one-off, every-fourth-generation event, not to be repeated until everyone who experienced this crash is dead. 

Here&#039;s another instance of two things not going together: the welfare state and stable money. Since you can&#039;t get rid of the welfare state, you can&#039;t have stable money.  These are just the problems you get with 100% voter participation. To get to hard money you&#039;d have to disenfranchise the weak.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vladimir is correct to say you can&#8217;t have a gold standard together with fractional-reserve banking. That&#8217;s a good insight that most Austrians gloss over. So which one has to go? One reasonable answer is to sharply raise bank capital requirements and lending standards. Turkey had no banking crisis post-2008 because their banks had like 16% capital ratios and demand very good collateral for making loans. Ditto Sri Lanka.</p>
<p>But the idea we&#8217;re going to get rid of fractional-reserve banking &#8230; well &#8230; it just isn&#8217;t going to happen. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s something else to consider: It could be that the aging global population coupled with DECLINING population in some countries could bring a greater risk of DE-flation than inflation (see Japan). Also, with Third-World IQs going up, instances of hyperinflation become rarer. </p>
<p>From a Kondratieff perspective, the 2008 crash could be viewed as a one-off, every-fourth-generation event, not to be repeated until everyone who experienced this crash is dead. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another instance of two things not going together: the welfare state and stable money. Since you can&#8217;t get rid of the welfare state, you can&#8217;t have stable money.  These are just the problems you get with 100% voter participation. To get to hard money you&#8217;d have to disenfranchise the weak.</p>
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		<title>By: Thales</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/reaction-points-6-2/#comment-12827</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2013 02:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You should kick that one over to TLP. She&#039;s have a hoot with it.  &#039;reminded me of this -- just substitute shrinks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhkmOThIySc]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should kick that one over to TLP. She&#8217;s have a hoot with it.  &#8216;reminded me of this &#8212; just substitute shrinks:</p>
<p><span class='embed-youtube' style='text-align:center; display: block;'><iframe class='youtube-player' type='text/html' width='640' height='390' src='http://www.youtube.com/embed/OhkmOThIySc?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;wmode=transparent' frameborder='0' allowfullscreen='true'></iframe></span></p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/reaction-points-6-2/#comment-12819</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2013 01:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The part about the colonists going mad because they wouldn&#039;t have access to regular psychiatric attention was sadly comical.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The part about the colonists going mad because they wouldn&#8217;t have access to regular psychiatric attention was sadly comical.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/reaction-points-6-2/#comment-12817</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2013 01:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes. The brand should do the marketing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. The brand should do the marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2013 01:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A link &quot;just blew half [your] brain away into shellshock&quot; and you&#039;re asking me to stop doing it? You&#039;ve no sense of  fun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A link &#8220;just blew half [your] brain away into shellshock&#8221; and you&#8217;re asking me to stop doing it? You&#8217;ve no sense of  fun.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/reaction-points-6-2/#comment-12815</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[admin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2013 01:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Presumably we’ll be returning to him for some time?&quot; -- Yes, if I can get my priorities lined up functionally. A post that did some real work would be an encouraging start.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Presumably we’ll be returning to him for some time?&#8221; &#8212; Yes, if I can get my priorities lined up functionally. A post that did some real work would be an encouraging start.</p>
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		<title>By: Vxxc</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/reaction-points-6-2/#comment-12814</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2013 01:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it takes Hitler America goes to space. Fuck it]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it takes Hitler America goes to space. Fuck it</p>
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		<title>By: Vxxc</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2013 00:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mars exploration doesnt take the possible pyschological consequences into account.   No economists , pyschologists or fags on Mars.  I&#039;m normally all in favor of Imperialism but this evil must be checked here.   

Or they go out the fucking airlock.  That can be on reality TV too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mars exploration doesnt take the possible pyschological consequences into account.   No economists , pyschologists or fags on Mars.  I&#8217;m normally all in favor of Imperialism but this evil must be checked here.   </p>
<p>Or they go out the fucking airlock.  That can be on reality TV too.</p>
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