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		<title>By: Nick B. Steves</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/religions-and-ideologies/#comment-103798</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick B. Steves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 20:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Long ago, Steve Sailer noticed how exactly average Catholics are. At least two reasons for this: 1) sheer size of the umbrella; and 2) theology and culture encourages a disposition of once-Catholic always-Catholic (which probably contributes heavily to the size of the sample demographic). A (baptized, communicated) Catholic who is agnostic and otherwise hasn&#039;t darkened the door of church in 30 years will still check &quot;Catholic&quot;. Most protestants, especially low church prots, won&#039;t do this.

I&#039;d estimate a circle of about 1/2 the area would appear centered on the y-axis and about 2/3 up if you could separate out weekly mass attenders. If you sampled Latin Mass devotees, its tiny circle would skew slightly to the right and be well north of the Assemblies of Godders.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long ago, Steve Sailer noticed how exactly average Catholics are. At least two reasons for this: 1) sheer size of the umbrella; and 2) theology and culture encourages a disposition of once-Catholic always-Catholic (which probably contributes heavily to the size of the sample demographic). A (baptized, communicated) Catholic who is agnostic and otherwise hasn&#8217;t darkened the door of church in 30 years will still check &#8220;Catholic&#8221;. Most protestants, especially low church prots, won&#8217;t do this.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d estimate a circle of about 1/2 the area would appear centered on the y-axis and about 2/3 up if you could separate out weekly mass attenders. If you sampled Latin Mass devotees, its tiny circle would skew slightly to the right and be well north of the Assemblies of Godders.</p>
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		<title>By: Lesser Bull</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/religions-and-ideologies/#comment-102792</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lesser Bull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2014 20:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly.</p>
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		<title>By: C. Y. Chen</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/religions-and-ideologies/#comment-102313</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[C. Y. Chen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2014 00:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is pretty cool to look at, but it&#039;s not as informative as I thought it would have been.  For example, evangelical prots might seem like they&#039;re on the side of &quot;small government&quot; but this chart doesn&#039;t show their zealous support for Israel, which is a key component of American &quot;conservatism&quot;.  It seems like this is an inherent flaw of the graph, as there are only two axes, but I guess major simplifications are necessary with infographics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is pretty cool to look at, but it&#8217;s not as informative as I thought it would have been.  For example, evangelical prots might seem like they&#8217;re on the side of &#8220;small government&#8221; but this chart doesn&#8217;t show their zealous support for Israel, which is a key component of American &#8220;conservatism&#8221;.  It seems like this is an inherent flaw of the graph, as there are only two axes, but I guess major simplifications are necessary with infographics.</p>
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		<title>By: Athrelon</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/religions-and-ideologies/#comment-102080</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Athrelon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2014 12:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The latter.

I also suspect that a large number of &quot;Buddhists&quot; are white converts, not immigrants - and they practice a very different Buddhism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The latter.</p>
<p>I also suspect that a large number of &#8220;Buddhists&#8221; are white converts, not immigrants &#8211; and they practice a very different Buddhism.</p>
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		<title>By: Russian</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/religions-and-ideologies/#comment-101831</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2014 23:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey!
Sorry for an offtopic, but this can be interesting for you. Dugin on chaos-philosophy in english: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAjmylOI4wI]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey!<br />
Sorry for an offtopic, but this can be interesting for you. Dugin on chaos-philosophy in english: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAjmylOI4wI" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAjmylOI4wI</a></p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/religions-and-ideologies/#comment-101793</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2014 21:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Self-selection on who comes from India?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Self-selection on who comes from India?</p>
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		<title>By: Mai La Dreapta</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/religions-and-ideologies/#comment-101791</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mai La Dreapta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2014 21:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And as for the second chart: by Vishnu, why are the &lt;i&gt;Hindus&lt;/i&gt; so rich? (Not much surprise to see the Jews there, though.) Is it the influence of California Hindus, or have their immigrant communities been exceptionally successful? I&#039;m guessing the latter, though it&#039;s a surprise to see the extent of the effect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as for the second chart: by Vishnu, why are the <i>Hindus</i> so rich? (Not much surprise to see the Jews there, though.) Is it the influence of California Hindus, or have their immigrant communities been exceptionally successful? I&#8217;m guessing the latter, though it&#8217;s a surprise to see the extent of the effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Mai La Dreapta</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/religions-and-ideologies/#comment-101787</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mai La Dreapta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2014 21:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The biggest surprise to me is how resolutely &lt;i&gt;central&lt;/i&gt; the Catholics are. One wonders whether the Catholics are really so close to the national average in person, or whether their greater numbers simply mean that all their extremes cancel out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest surprise to me is how resolutely <i>central</i> the Catholics are. One wonders whether the Catholics are really so close to the national average in person, or whether their greater numbers simply mean that all their extremes cancel out.</p>
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		<title>By: Mai La Dreapta</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/religions-and-ideologies/#comment-101786</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mai La Dreapta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2014 21:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that this chart suffers from the usual problem with the question of &quot;morality&quot; in government, namely that being pro-family-values and anti-porn is about &quot;morality&quot;, but being pro-gay and anti-patriarchy supposedly isn&#039;t. What don&#039;t have a name for what leftism wants here, but we are quite assured that demanding that the government recognize same-sex unions and fund abortions on demand certainly isn&#039;t government support for a kind of &lt;i&gt;morality&lt;/i&gt;.

IOWs questions about &quot;morality&quot; are proxies for social conservativism, and people who claim they want no government influence on &quot;morality&quot; are frequently quite happy to have the government push &lt;i&gt;leftist&lt;/i&gt; morals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this chart suffers from the usual problem with the question of &#8220;morality&#8221; in government, namely that being pro-family-values and anti-porn is about &#8220;morality&#8221;, but being pro-gay and anti-patriarchy supposedly isn&#8217;t. What don&#8217;t have a name for what leftism wants here, but we are quite assured that demanding that the government recognize same-sex unions and fund abortions on demand certainly isn&#8217;t government support for a kind of <i>morality</i>.</p>
<p>IOWs questions about &#8220;morality&#8221; are proxies for social conservativism, and people who claim they want no government influence on &#8220;morality&#8221; are frequently quite happy to have the government push <i>leftist</i> morals.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter A. Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/religions-and-ideologies/#comment-101781</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter A. Taylor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2014 21:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m looking at the LDS and the Congregationalists, and it almost seems to me as if the vertical axis is flipped.  Is there some confusion between the church teaching morality vs. wanting the government dictating it?  Also, Unitarians may want pole dancing legal because it pisses off the conservative Christians, but then they want the government to step in and harass the snot out of Chick-fil-A and make the Catholic Church buy condoms for all the nuns.

And how did the Unitarians and the (other) Congregationalists get so far apart on the horizontal axis?  Is that for real, or is it an artifact of the survey methodology?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking at the LDS and the Congregationalists, and it almost seems to me as if the vertical axis is flipped.  Is there some confusion between the church teaching morality vs. wanting the government dictating it?  Also, Unitarians may want pole dancing legal because it pisses off the conservative Christians, but then they want the government to step in and harass the snot out of Chick-fil-A and make the Catholic Church buy condoms for all the nuns.</p>
<p>And how did the Unitarians and the (other) Congregationalists get so far apart on the horizontal axis?  Is that for real, or is it an artifact of the survey methodology?</p>
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