Rotherham

“Hint: it’s not the crime, it’s the coverup,” suggests Lesser Bull persuasively. Mangan fills this out, with an especially valuable link to this round-up of orchestrated obliviousness.

Does the progressive media really think it can de-realize this festival of cultural ruin with a standard inattention protocol? If so, it has to count as an extraordinary peak hubris moment. Perhaps the left is structurally incapable of preventing itself from pushing things over the brink of catastrophe. It always has to take that one additional step, and it has no sense at all of how to back down.

There have to be a lot of people in the UK right now who would be delighted to see the media establishment strung up from lamp-posts, with panic and defection rife in journalistic ranks. It’s surely not impossible that the pattern now jutting into hideous visibility in Britain will evoke a disturbing sense of recognition elsewhere, possibly throughout the Anglosphere. As far as core Cathedral operating procedures are concerned, this has to be a period of (possibly unprecedented) vulnerability. As a source of regime threatening irritability, the Rotherham syndrome is the droit du seigneur of the new nobility — even among a pitifully broken people, it pushes some deeply atavistic buttons. Lies, sexual exploitation, and foreign invasion — who’d want to be PR manager for this cocktail of native degradation?

(Any cover-up -themed T-shirt slogan suggestions in the comment thread will be very gratefully received.)

“So you have employed all the powers and privileges at your disposal to make it impossible to investigate a situation that has now deteriorated to mass child rape?”
“Look, a squirrel!”

ADDED: Help! I’m beginning to really like Richard Dawkins:

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  • Chris B Says:

    No one is making the connection with Breivik. Pakistani gangs raping white norwegians? This is not confined to Rotherham, nor even the rest of the north of the UK. This is Europe wide. Questions should be asked in Sweden and Norway in particular.

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    Harold Reply:

    All the family and friends of Breivik’s victims will be unable to think Breivik-like thoughts without feeling as if they are betraying their dead relatives or friends.

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    Erik Reply:

    The Worker’s Party in Norway is still expressing anger in the big papers that the Xenophobe Party hasn’t done enough soul-searching, purging and apologies for having touched Breivik.

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    scientism Reply:

    Reading Breivik again, his account of growing up in Norway is striking and plausible. He’s basically saying that anti-racism is a way to stop European youth from organising against the Muslim youth in the cities. Meanwhile, Muslim gangs are overlooked by the police and supported by Leftist activist groups. This sounds entirely plausible.

    This kind of thing gets overlooked when we talk about broken homes and single mothers. Yes, that’s a problem, but really what choice do white kids have but to get involved with minority gangs when those gangs are protected by the authorities and supported by Leftist activists and they have no option of organising themselves?

    These girls and their families were likely complicit because they had no other options. There are no whites who will stand up for them and they cannot organise. The moment a white gang meets a Muslim gang, the whites are all going to jail, before they even throw a punch, so there are no white gangs anymore. Their own fathers were arrested for trying to rescue them.

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    Hawk Spitui Reply:

    Perhaps the T-shirt slogan we need is “I Am Anders Breivik”. It may not be cover-up related, but if they get popular enough it’d sure put the fear of God into the Cathedral.

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    Michael Reply:

    someone should tweet quotes from all the big journalists who have been hushing it up and minimizing it.. They have said some incredibly dumbs things and people will be able to see the apologists for what they are now. I dont know how twitter works im afraid but going back to at least 2010 journalist were calling it racists to notice

    admin Reply:

    Before getting even slightly dewy-eyed about Breivik, I’d advise people to read this.

    Funeral Mongoloid Reply:

    I find myself getting a bit dewy-eyed about Breivik when I listen to this:

    http://youtu.be/V8X23A2K8a4

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  • Igor Stavrovsky Says:

    Oh, I have an idea for a T-shirt slogan:
    BBC – Blindfolded By Cathedral

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    admin Reply:

    (That’s good.)

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  • Alrenous Says:

    It’s a narcissistic morality play until they start literally stringing journalists up on lampposts. Probably only need to do a couple, to show ‘willing and able,’ before the problem starts solving itself. Which is to say; it’s amazing how resiliently self-destructive British hobbits are. Reality’s teaching 2×4 now has bloody bits of hair stuck to it, how much more beating does it take?

    I know what the excuse is. Single mothers. You might see a 5-point uptick among the first-time marrying cohort. That will be the actual effect of this. To get a full five points, maybe you even have to exclude chavs.

    The strangelove roundup demonstrates conclusively that Moldbug was wrong about (some) leftists being sincere. Sincerity is gold. Platinum. Osmium. Nobody gets the benefit of the doubt. I don’t believe they believe what they said they believe. The very first question everyone properly earns is “Are you trolling?”

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    peppermint Reply:

    if you don’t think the cute cuddly proggies are sincere, you need to find some to hang out with and talk to.

    A progger Jew on my facebook recently posted “What minority is currently destroying America? No, it’s not a trick question: The Rich”.

    The progs are perferctly sincere about their New Left plan for equality. They’re completely wrong about a lot of stuff, most importantly race, but they are nothing if not caring and sincere.

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    Funeral Mongoloid Reply:

    ‘A progger Jew ‘.

    Admin – hardly a phrase to inspire faith that one has entered any sort of sophisticated or refined online intellectual domain.

    More shoes!

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    Xoth Reply:

    We are Concerned.

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  • MLR Says:

    Great, string up the journos, and the Brezhnevian functionaries besides, and rightly decry them for allowing the demands of liturgical purity to play fast-and-loose with the facts, and how and where they’re presented. Shoot/fish/barrel: I smell a re-tread, because what happens to the same misguided young women who were in a position to be preyed upon in the first place? They still won’t have an adult to look ’em in the eye and let them know they’re wanted for anything ELSE beyond being a battery for modernity.

    Allow me to present the NRx challenge. It requires the cover of Time magazine and the cover of CosmoCareers that both feature Sheryl Sandberg (Ms Lean In). Here you go:

    http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1028960/thumbs/s-COSMO-CAREERS-SHERYL-SANDBERG-large.jpg

    http://media.bizj.us/view/img/61701/sheryl-sandberg-time-cover*304.jpg

    The third item it requires is a bottle of your liquor of choice.

    Put all three in front of the age-13+ kid in your life, and say, “Look, if you can tell me why she’s covering her ring in one picture, and showing it clearly in the other, a basic answer gets you one shot, a good answer that tries gets you two, and if you blow me away with a real insight we can split the bottle and talk about it, cuz kid, you’re gonna need it.” Walk away (with the liqueur, natch).

    I guarantee two things, minimum:

    1) that kid will remember this moment, up to and at your grave, as the single MOST human thing you ever did or said;

    2) you’ll show them that you care about what they see, and the world out there, and how it wants to hurt them, far beyond taxi drivers and socialist functionaries; it wants their soul; it wants their soul dead, and you were the one who cared enough to say something different than “exchange your soul and the chance at a family, for a “career” being Middle Manager in Charge of Situations and Happenstance where they give you time off for Lean Ins and getting your nails done.”

    Your job is not to spirit them away to rural Idaho to keep them perfect. Your job is to show them that the message from the Cathedral isn’t the only one.

    Talk. To. Them.

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    Puzzle Privateer Reply:

    I’m sorry I must be stupid could you explain the significance of her hiding her wedding ring?

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    Michael Reply:

    The last psychiatrist did a piece on this , discouraging women from having families because its a drain on the cathedral.

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    MLR Reply:

    http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/03/dont_hate_her_because_shes_suc.html

    They both teach two different generations of women, two different target demos, HOW to want: the Cosmo Cover tells young women how to want “The Money, The Man, The Baby: Get What You Want,” and “the secret formula for success is Dream Job + The Right Partner + Great Wardrobe = Yes I Can!” which you can’t, but whatever, because the point is to make them batteries for modernity, not COOs (they read Cosmo, they’ll never be COO of anything); “they teach their readers to want certain things over other things. They teach them how to want. What resists them? Nothing. Then who can unbrainwash them? No one. The person that should have was their mother, and they read Time.”

    Does that help?

    I horrified a classroom full of 20-something young women with it on Thursday and followed up with a triple whammy of the “Jake – Purina Cat Chow” commercial on Friday, which the youngest gal deciphered for the rest of the class (again to their collective horror) with the phrase “Yeah, it’s telling us it’s ok to be a cat lady and give marriage a pass: check out her left hand. No ring …” She’s now an NRx Ninja Assassin.

    And your daughter: doesn’t want a snazzy T-Shirt with a snarky slogan. She wants to talk about this with you.

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    Michael Reply:

    MLR I doubt you have children, teaching isnt the same. I have spent my life in experiments as you describe with my children.it doesnt work ,with a stark enough example you might get a aha which is quickly processed as see the corporate media is a running dog of the capitalist pigs- go 99%!
    Humans are tribe animals.and females are hyper example.what does work is spiriting them away to North Idaho. because there they learn from the tribe to be suspicious of the cathedral, to value family over institutions,That a woman can defer to her husband while still influencing family decisions. Their are no paki or black rape gang and they would be strung up its a sustainable and safe place to survive the collapse.
    When you try enough of these thought experiments on cathedral children what you are teaching them is that you are out of step and they have been told all about people like that. The system is set up in such a way that you can not spend as much time with them as the cathedral does and still provide for them,Its set up to minimize parental authority in so many ways try telling a 11 year old that her social studies teacher doesn’t know her history that ecology teacher doesn’t understand basic physics that Maya Angelou is not great literature., That maybe the reason her Mexican friends family was sleighed at the supermarket was because tens of thousands of illegal Mexicans have moved into the town and changed its character in unpleasant ways and put many daddy s out of work or pressured their wages down to third world levels,, tell her its important to attend mass when no one she knows goes to church and they all think its against homos and for superstitious ignorant people. And on and on, how long before she sees you as hopelessly behind the times.

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    MLR Reply:

    Read what you wrote: none of that is about you (YOU!) speaking to your daughter – it’s all you speaking about other people TO (at?) your daughter. You’re venting. At her. About the same world she now has to face.

    I have those young people in my class a few hours. That’s it. And all I can show them is that I care when I bring this up: that this is about a world that will try very, very hard to tell them what they’re worth and how to want, and that it will leave them empty. I show them MY bald head, and tell them how I was ashamed for awhile that it started going bald when I was 20, but that I just had to shave it down, because there was no use faking it. Then I tell them how much the hair replacement commercials prick away at MY soul, and how much I can imagine it hurting other young men like me.

    They lean in. They listen.

    Talk to them.

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    Ex-pat in Oz Reply:

    MLR. I concur– I had a race realism discussion w my daughter when she was 14 and it wasn’t pretty. And her mother wasn’t pleased either tho more out of a desire to avoid controversy than out of disagreement. I’ll never forget my daughter’s response to my hbd arguments– “but that’s just the way they are!” Classic cathedral cognitive dissonance. She’s 21 now and actively resists cathedral talking points. We are negligent as parents when we fail to provide our children with the intellectual legacy they are due.

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  • VXXC Says:

    Gee Admin, where’s the Popcorn Tag?

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  • Lesser Bull Says:

    The Emperor’s new clothes are Asian.

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    Antisthenes Reply:

    The Emperor’s New Kurta

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  • Solex Says:

    Face it guys: it’s men who have a problem – black, white, Asian – who gives a shit when it comes to getting laid? It’s about power and opportunity, and anyone who puts some other gloss on it is kidding themselves.

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    Hurlock Reply:

    Ok.

    If that’s the case, can you cite one case where a group of white males sexually abused 1000+ middle eastern young girls?

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    an inanimate aluminum tube Reply:

    Disclaimer: Cultural and HBD factors are of course at play, influencing propensity towards this sort of behavior.

    But it is worth noting that middle eastern males would generally not be so foolish as to allow foreign males unrestricted access to thousands of nubile young middle eastern girls.

    In the Mahmudiyah killings the middle eastern family quickly detected the undue interest of the American soldiers in their 14 year old daughter and took reasonable (if a bit naive) precautions to protect her, which meant that the American soldiers were unable to “groom” the middle eastern girl for sex and had to resort to killing her whole family to obtain sexual access to her.

    Some Middle Eastern groups probably have a propensity toward grooming girls for sex, but huge swathes of the British population seem to have a propensity towards failure to guard their young women from foreigners.

    A bad combo to be sure, but one problem is probably more maladaptive than the other.

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    admin Reply:

    @ Solex. Now you’re just trolling yourself.

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  • Funeral Mongoloid Says:

    ‘In no other sphere does PC and its terrors prevent the authorities taking action against minorities. We’re over-represented in courts and prisons at one end of the social scale, overdisciplined and marginalised in the professions at the other. If it is true that political correctness prevented the authorities from using their powers against minorities for fear of giving offence, that’s a scandal. It would also be a first.’

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/29/rotherham-abuse-political-correctness-ludicrous

    WARNING: LINK TO ARTICLE BY INTELLIGENT BLACK MAN.

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    Erik Reply:

    Your quote alone has at least four falsehoods in it. The lede of the linked article is false too. So which is it – the intelligent black man is a liar, or the black man is stupid enough to believe the falsehoods he’s spouting?

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    Antisthenes Reply:

    Lying = incorrect information + power, black men cannot lie.

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    Erik Reply:

    #AAA

    Funeral Mongoloid Reply:

    You tell me – you’re the one who says he’s lying.

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    Funeral Mongoloid Reply:

    @ ERIK THE RED.

    Erik Reply:

    I can’t read his mental state, so I can’t tell you whether he’s cognizant of his own falsehoods. I can tell you that they’re falsehoods. Let me illustrate one of them in elementary fashion.

    See Tyrone riot.
    Riot, Tyrone, riot!
    See Tyrone smash a shop window.
    Now Tyrone has cuts all over his hand.
    That wasn’t very smart, Tyrone.

    See Jake get in his car.
    Drive, Jake, drive!
    Jake is driving to work.
    What’s this? Jake’s shop has been smashed!
    Jake wonders who did it.
    Jake had a video camera!
    The video camera saw Tyrone smash the shop window.

    See the Judge with his big wig.
    The Judge is banging his gavel.
    Bang, Judge, bang!
    The Judge has put Tyrone in jail.

    See Hugh Muir write in the Guardian.
    Write, Hugh, write!
    Hugh thinks it’s not fair that Tyrone spends more time in jail than Jake.

    I hope I correctly aimed the explanation towards the appropriate cognitive level for a sufferer of Down Syndrome. This sets out the basis for “We’re over-represented in courts and prisons at one end of the social scale” being a falsehood: black people are actually over-represented among the stupid, violent, and shortsighted. Black people have attributes (more nature than nurture) that, on average, predispose them to landing in courts and jail a lot more. They’re not over-represented in court; they’re something more like “over-criminal” which there isn’t a settled term for that I’m aware of.

    Funeral Mongoloid Reply:

    Erik, you are FULMINATING, that’s all.

    Nothing you’ve said ‘sets out the basis’ for anything other than the revelation that you are a bigoted twit, easily whipped into a comical rage by his own frenzied bigotry.

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    Erik Reply:

    Easily whipped? Easily? I fulminate for two hours a day to practice my comical rage, and I am grossly offended, sir, by your insinuation that this is some sort of unskilled labor or an entry-level job! I have an official Second Degree Bigoted Twit certificate from the Ogre Institute, and I’ll have you know I consult my 300-page reference manual of bigotry when working myself into a frenzy, and it’s got ten pages of appendix and glossary with specialized dog whistles, code words and secret undertones of racism. People trying to use their own frenzied bigotry to whip themselves into a comical rage reliably burn out in less than a month unless they’re careful to ration their energy, but in the latter case they’re hardly bigoted twits, just mildly prejudicial twits, basically normal folks with a hobby of occasionally twitting for a few minutes on the weekend.

    #AAA

    admin Reply:

    Who is it you think is fulminating?

    Aesop Jones Reply:

    That was a pretty hare-brained read, actually.

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  • VXXC Says:

    Rotherham council does have standards. It will take away children from foster care if they vote UKIP.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/9700001/Foster-parents-stigmatised-and-slandered-for-being-members-of-Ukip.html

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    Orthodox Reply:

    This x10. UKIP will at least get revenge.

    http://www.theweek.co.uk/politics/child-abuse-inquiry/60145/rotherham-scandal-labours-failings-leave-door-open-to-ukip

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    Erik Reply:

    No it won’t. You shouldn’t look to elections to get you anything nice.

    UKIP could win every election in Rotherham (which it won’t) and still be stymied by its lack of power, because power has been broken up into a thousand fragments and handed out to unelected positions. UKIP couldn’t fire the top twenty police officers for dereliction of duty if it ran the council, let alone replace them by appointing UKIP/EDL/BNP/NF hardliners, which is the sort of step necessary to fix this. UKIP couldn’t deport, repatriate or exile a thousand Pakistani Muslims, or hang a single one. UKIP couldn’t take over the media and make them run daily stories covering a new victim of the multicult with a second page on how Labor decided to import the abusers as a snub to political enemies. UKIP couldn’t start throwing civil servants in jail and fining them into bankruptcy if it won every election in South Yorkshire, let alone Rotherham.

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    Chris B Reply:

    100x yes. UKIP are a necessary step in the utter destruction of any notion of democracy. They are a means to an end, and not an end in themselves. On that front they should be cheered on with the knowledge they are harbingers of doom. The last throw of the dice for democracy before collapse. The enriching population will not stop their behavior. It will continue.

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  • VXXC Says:

    Meanwhile Chicago Boyz is in a lynching mood over this…

    http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/45121.html

    “In order to maintain the benign mask of multicultural toleration and diversity in place, the ruling managerial and political class essentially sacrificed the children of the ruled class to a sexual Moloch … and kept quiet about it for years. How badly the ordinary British citizens are being served by their ruling class, these days! (Nearly as bad as as Americans are being served when it comes to black on white crime, but that’s a rant for another occasion.)”

    ” Trent Telenko Says:
    August 30th, 2014 at 8:22 am

    Sgt Mom,

    This is a time for killing. And the people that need killing are the UK gov’t officials that covered it up.”

    ” If Abraham could have found 10 righteous men in Sodom, the Lord would have spared the city. In Britain, finding 10 men would be the problem.” Subotai Bahadur

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    Michael Reply:

    what about the officials children should they be spared

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  • Antisthenes Says:

    We’ve Tried Looking the Other Way and We’re All Out of Ideas

    Rotherham 2014 – Celebrate Diversity

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  • handle Says:

    Wake me when they fire a single ordinary civil servant.

    The only response that creates the incentives that will ensure sane activity in the future and more to lose than gain for bureaucrats is a complete root and branch replacement of the entire chain of command with any remote connection or knowledge of this outrage. Also fines and jail for the most complicitly negligent officials.

    Or, at the very least, the imposition of joint and several positional liability for all government workers, without indemnification from the government itself, when each and every one of those girls sues for damages. Bankrupt them all, only fitting to match the moral bankruptcy.

    But none of this will happen, unless I’m very wrong about Cameron. So the media is right, they can pretend this never happened, a mere bizarre aberration, and back to business as usual.

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    VXXC Reply:

    Handle is probably correct.

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    Funeral Mongoloid Reply:

    He hasn’t a clue what he’s talking about. Doesn’t sound like he’s ever had a job. Perhaps you haven’t either.

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    Aesop Jones Reply:

    Your dismissive rebuttals are tumblr-tier. What’s next, are you going to start calling posters you disagree with “virgins?” Do you write for Salon?

    admin Reply:

    @ Fungal infection. Unless you raise the level of your input, you’re going to be disconnected. We can find random abuse anywhere, so you’re adding nothing. (The mismatch between the quality of Handle’s comments and yours is simply laughable.)

    Antisthenes Reply:

    Funeral Mongoloid just got

    REKT
    E
    K
    T

    #btfo #ayyland #callthecathedralwedon’tgiveafuck

    Funeral Mongoloid Reply:

    @ admin

    If you think Handle’s comments are of a high quality then I really don’t know what to say!

    Funeral Mongoloid Reply:

    Bog standard Daily Mail stuff!

    Erik Reply:

    The mongoloid can’t even get its ad hominems right. The daily mail would never use terms like “positional liability”.

    Funeral Mongoloid Reply:

    ‘Any remote connection’?

    ‘All government workers’?

    What utter bollocks.

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    Erik Reply:

    It’s not bollocks, you decelerated brake. [Nod to admin’s comment policy.]

    Handle is right, and Foseti’s writings support the same thing – the civil service as it stands is largely unpunishable. Occasionally a head of some department is pressured into “resigning”, for which read lateral transfer or movement to the speaking circuit. In a word, there’s a problem with the incentives.

    INCENTIVES.

    The entire bureaucratic-governmental chain of command with any remote connection or knowledge of this outrage has, at present, no incentive to put a stop to the outrage. If every Pakistani Muslim in Britain suddenly becomes a model citizen, the bureaucratic-governmental chain of command gets no rewards. If every Pakistani Muslim in Britain becomes a triple rapist overnight, the bureaucratic-governmental chain of command suffers no consequence, and may even get extra funds to write reports on the problem. That’s why Handle says, quite correctly, that they can pretend this never happened.

    Unless and until there are massive punishments for complicity in thousands of rapes (yes, complicity, when you censor news reports on the subject and arrest fathers trying to recover their daughters) there will be no changes.

    And right now too many people are like the hemi-wit Funeral Mongoloid who bollockses at the idea of punishments for the civil service. So there won’t be massive punishments. So there will be no changes. So this will keep happening.

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    Funeral Mongoloid Reply:

    Nonsense from beginning to end.

    Erik Reply:

    If it’s such nonsense as you claim, mr trisomy 21, kindly explain the Crossman Diaries (the basis for Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister) and Foseti.

    Or if that’s hard, explain why incentives don’t apply to the civil service. Tell me about those fantastically loyal, dutiful people whose death is frequently a higher contributor to turnover rate than getting sacked.

    I’d even be happy with evidence that it’s nonsense somewhere, let alone from beginning to end. Show me a single case from the last 50 years where civil servants were sacked, fined and jailed en masse for anything vaguely similar.

    Funeral Mongoloid Reply:

    Myth 3: civil and public servants are secure in their jobs

    The myth

    The civil service is bloated, and civil and public servants all have safe and cushy jobs.

    The facts

    Since the Gershon review in 2004 tens of thousands of jobs have been cut from the civil service, resulting in a deterioration of services to the public.

    Job cuts and office closure programmes are ongoing in many departments under the previous government’s ‘efficiency savings’. The new government’s plans to cut public spending further and quicker will inevitably lead to more job losses.

    Revenue and Customs: Since 2006, HMRC has cut more than 20,000 staff towards its target of 25,000 by March 2011, and 200 offices have been closed, are in the process of closing or are under threat.

    Cutting jobs in the department responsible for collecting tax makes no sense, especially when around £120 billion is lost to the economy every year through tax evasion and avoidance, and through revenue not being collected because of a lack of resources.

    The department’s own figures also show that, after staff costs, tax inspectors bring an average of £600,000 a year each in tax revenue.

    Cuts have led to increased errors, backlogs in post and half the calls from the public going un-answered last year.

    Department for Work and Pensions: Between 2005 and 2008, 30,000 jobs were cut. A further 5% year on year job cuts were planned for 2008 onwards, but the department took on 15,000 staff on 18-month fixed term contracts to cope with rise in unemployment.

    These contracts are coming to an end and, though some may be renewed for a limited time, the department has announced plans to cut another 4,000 from jobcentres on top of the 4,000 that have already gone this year. Cutting jobs in jobcentres is unprecedented at a time of rising unemployment.

    As DWP increases automation of services, such as online claims to benefit, it is likely there will be further moves to cut jobs.

    The government has also announced it will replace all existing back to work schemes with a single work programme provided by voluntary and private sectors.

    Ministry of Defence: Since 2004, 25,000 jobs have been cut with a further 10,000 threatened for 2010 to 2013.

    The coalition government has announced it intends to cut the department’s running costs by 25%, and more detail is expected in the next strategic defence review.

    UK Border Agency: In June, the agency announced it is to cut 1,700 posts this year, but we believe there are plans to cut almost a third of the UKBA’s 20,000 staff in the coming years, coupled with a massive increase in workloads for those that remain.
    This will hit the agency’s casework particularly hard, and the advice and support staff provide to some of the most vulnerable members of society will inevitably suffer.

    admin Reply:

    @ Erik. The only reason I’m still keeping the Fungal goblin around is for the reactions like this. (I don’t think he’s going to be with us for long, though.)

    admin Reply:

    @ Fungal. Your last is Guardianist nonsense, that completely misses the point, but at least it’s a comment rather than mere goblin spit. If you want to continue peddling your bog-standard leftism here, I advise you to take it as a model.

    Erik Reply:

    Mongoloid: I complained that the civil service is unpunishable, not uncuttable. My case is that the civil service does not suffer for fouling up. I asked for examples of when civil servants were sacked, fined and jailed.

    You posted cases where they were downsized as a cost-cutting measure. This misses the point. I’m asking for cases where they were fired because they weren’t doing their job.

    Again: Where are the incentives for the civil service to do anything about a thousand rapes?

    Try reading what I’m asking rather than pattern-matching to nearest known objection.

    Funeral Mongoloid Reply:

    Erik, if you went out into the world a bit more, I think you’ll find most civil servants justifiably view the mass sackings as ideologically-fuelled punishment for something with which they had nothing to do – the financial collapse.

    But anyway, what a complete waste of time, ‘engaging’ on here!

    Outside-In, where a thin ‘theoretical’ veneer sits unsteadily on top of a lot of vulgar racism, commonplace misogyny, and comical-pathetic white male wounded pride. Never more than a few clicks away from getting your shoes completely covered in the crassest ‘infosphere’ shit!

    Nicholas – you are a source of shame and embarrassment to your former students!

    So, with a massive YAWN – because I’m the sort of troll who needs a challenge, and the targets on here are too many and too obvious – I’m off.

    Alrenous Reply:

    Come now @admin, Fungal is doing more damage to Fungal’s side than Erik is. And such a convenient punching bag!

    Look at as a useful training regimen in maintaining frame.

    nydwracu Reply:

    Total failure to understand cybernetics. There’s a large difference between reliable punishment for catastrophic failure and firing at random whenever the economy goes bing.

    (If Fungo here doesn’t think Rotherham counts as catastrophic failure, or as a part of a wide and ungoodthinkful pattern — potato-rape, Sweden, etc. — then that makes the priorities of certain factions even clearer than they already were after the American MSM’s predictable silence, or after the demand that everyone go to college even though college is a horrible rape-factory.)

    Erik Reply:

    Mongoloid, the Cathedral keeps up a steady stream of lies about race, builds policy on lies, and sanctions people for not believing in the lies; and you want to complain that we are “vulgar” when we point out the lies?

    I disbelieve. I don’t think it’s actually the vulgarity you have a problem with; I think you’re flailing about for any point of criticism you can find. I could lace my speech with “nigger” twice a sentence, or I could use five-dollar words about distributions of probability mass and ensuing pass ratios at cutoff thresholds with error rates estimated from measurement correlations, and I don’t believe that you’d accept the hatefacts either way.

    Now let’s skip over your other red herrings like baseless references to misogyny, and get back to the point about the civil service. As Nydwracu notes, you’re failing to grasp the cybernetic aspect – the system of feedback and control. (“cybernetic” is from the same root word as “government”.) I prefer hammering the single word “Incentives” because I find it clearer, but the principle is the same, and hopefully you can grasp at least one approach to it. If both are failing, try reading some of Foseti‘s reports on how a modern structure of civil service works.

    The civil service, I predict, will not meaningfully suffer for complicity in the kidnapping, rape, torture, and pimping of 1400 girls. A few people may be “called on” to step down. Some might even step down, particularly if they’re getting old, have a good pension lined up, and a successor in mind. There will be no punishments for these people. There will be no criminal charges, no fines, no jail time. There will be no replacement of large parts of the current civil service with people who actually try to make sure that Pakistani Muslim Sex Slave Rings never happen again – you’d have to start drafting from the BNP footsoldiers for that, and we’ve already seen that merely being in the UKIP is enough to lose your children.

    Thus, because the civil service will not be punished for catastrophic failure, it will have no reason to avoid catastrophic failure. (That’s the core summary; there are some caveats about e.g. how the punishment should come swiftly and severely and reliably. Punishing a decade later, with a slap on the wrist, or haphazardly will have less effect.) Worse, it may get rewarded for failure with more money and more employees – “clearly this is a big problem, we need to put more people on it”. What are the odds that there will be more diversity officers appointed for outreach to the Pakistani community in Rotherham, rather than throwing out every last diversity officer and instead appointing some National Front members as discipline officers to watch the Pakistani community in Rotherham like a hawk?

    Michael Reply:

    I hear theres an APP coming out that re[places the need for the civil service

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    Michael Reply:

    correct this story has been on the net for years documentarys produced etc all this is, is the Cathedral going on the record as being, Shocked Shocked that grooming and Raping is going on in little Tangiers

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  • Erik Says:

    Instapundit has a nice moment here, I think, when he says:

    “The legal system is, ultimately, an ancient bargain: Renounce your mob violence and blood feuds and we will provide you with justice.”

    I’d nitpick the term “justice” slightly, but I like the horrorist point one can abstract from this. Mob violence is not an aberration – mob violence is a natural response that people conditionally agree to refrain from engaging in. The condition’s violated, and so mob violence is now legitimate by the terms that the legal system was ultimately founded on.

    Nydwracu points out why this isn’t going to happen, though: Cathedral client races are allowed to riot, lower-class whites are not. Angry negroes can burn and murder for weeks and the Cathedral will talk about how much we must understand their grievances, but if angry whites try to pull the same thing the Cathedral won’t talk for five seconds. It’ll send in the army.

    How long does it have the army?

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    R7 Rocket Reply:

    Nydwracu points out why this isn’t going to happen, though: Cathedral client races are allowed to riot, lower-class whites are not. Angry negroes can burn and murder for weeks and the Cathedral will talk about how much we must understand their grievances, but if angry whites try to pull the same thing the Cathedral won’t talk for five seconds. It’ll send in the army.

    How long does it have the army?

    According to this:

    http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/us_debt/us_debt.html

    Not for very long…

    Especially when the Cathedral does these things to the members of the military:

    http://www.inquisitr.com/1308608/sailor-dad-ordered-to-be-in-court-for-custody-hearing-judge-doesnt-care-that-he-is-on-a-submarine-video/

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    Michael Reply:

    yeah but think about it whites could do a lot more damage black rioter are really stupid

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    E. Antony Gray (@RiverC) Reply:

    “The last time whites rioted in this country, it was called the Civil War”

    (not really, but it’s funny and slightly sadistic to put it that way.)

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    Funeral Mongoloid Reply:

    “yeah but think about it whites could do a lot more damage black rioter are really stupid”

    Admin – I’m sending you a shoe-cleaning bill for exposure to the above high quality comment!

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    Funeral Mongoloid Reply:

    ‘Cathedral client races are allowed to riot, lower-class whites are not.’

    Admin! New pair of shoes, please!

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    Michael Reply:

    Ill give you a boot

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  • SanguineEmpiricist Says:

    I know no one here supports hooliganism, but my grandmother and grandfather were both teachers in the UK(not white), and my aunt is also non-white in the UK. After my grandfather died my grandmother just lives alone now , but she has been the target of vandalism by “Pro-white” youth several times. The aunt could be considered very successful and neither of them have ever done any crime or much anything really; she’s just an old lady. Whenever I see this sort of behavior, I get a little worried that an old lady that lives in Wolverhampton might be the victim of violence.

    Without ‘perspective’ I cannot support even stirring up ethno-nationalist sympathies. I understand, I am pro-civilization building, but all I remember is some old lady who used to take me candy shopping when I was younger fearing wannabe fascists.

    Before I turn to NRx style sympathies in the UK I remember that I can trust the anti-fascist groups far more to ‘run the defense’ in this regard.

    This happens every time the pseudo-fascist groups get going.

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    SanguineEmpiricist Reply:

    sigh wrong thread

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    admin Reply:

    I certainly agree that WN thugs aren’t helping. Facing a choice between Neo-Nazis and Rape-Jihad sociopaths isn’t a great place to be.

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    Hurlock Reply:

    I have a friend in the UK who is from the youth wing of the BNP. He gets some things right, like immigration policy and stuff like that, but on some other issues his ideas are just retarded.
    Economically for example, he thinks the UK should nationalize everything again and pretty much return to old labour policies. And this is the general sentiment in that party, they are pretty much hardline socialists, all of them. (further proving that ethno-nationalists are simply leftists who didn’t move that left on immigration policy)
    Also, the conspiracy theories about the evil joos running the world don’t help either. (even though there is some truth to that, these guys take it to a David Icke level of nuttiness)

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    Michael Reply:

    Sounds like something the Times would say, one of those well of course we don’t want our daughters groomed and raped but would you rather have neo nazis roaming the streets. Thats one of their favorite tactics ,the false choice with the alternative usually involving Nazis.
    For the record I’ll take neo nazxis or paleo nazis over having my daughter raped by towel heads any day.
    But if I has a real choice Id have everyone live in their own countries according to their own customs and genetics. A small number of guest workers, tourists etc could be permitted without voting rights or the right to political speech. Its an extreme position I did not hold most of my life but I now see HBD being what it is it is the only sustainable course. This needn’t be rancorous in my case it is not , I have many dearly loved friends of all races being a city kid, but I know understand that’s not a random sampling and their children will revert to the mean so its not going to be possible to have some sort of system of oh well hes one of the good ones besides it would be unethical to drain the third world of their talented tenth .
    And for the record I think to a lesser but non trivial degree this sorting should be enforced among closer ethnicity, I’m a multi culturalist not a mono culturalist. I think the world a better place when there is a different race and culture in Denmark than in Italy.This Anthony Burgess world is for shite

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    Michael Soren Reply:

    The choice is not so much either-or but both-or-neither. Multiculturalism is dropping two cats in a pillow case, tying it off, and then arguing about which cat is more to blame for the results.

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    Erik Reply:

    I’m curious what thread it was supposed to be on?

    While I wouldn’t lift a finger to your grandmother, I can see why the WNs might go after her. Take a peek at that Guardian article some leftoid linked earlier in the thread:

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/29/rotherham-abuse-political-correctness-ludicrous

    “In no other sphere does PC and its terrors prevent the authorities taking action against minorities.”

    What’s interesting about that (and a hundred similar phrases like “person of color”) isn’t the lie, but the mindset. The Pakistani Muslims have established that they consider the women an acceptable target, no holds barred. Hugh Muir, who appears to be non-Pakistani non-Muslim, takes the line that the minorities are all in it together against the Vaisya and Antyaja whiteys. Put those two together, and there’s a sudden shortage of moral principles limiting whitey from going after your grandmother. BDH-OV (+A) conflict is nasty that way: Dalits wreck whitey’s shit, Brahmins preach at whitey not to wreck shit, whitey gets mad, Brahmins preach at Dalits how mad and dangerous whitey is, repeat ad nauseam, and SanguineEmpiricist worries that whitey might lash out at his aunt and grandmother. I can sympathize, because they might. But who sympathizes with the Antyajas?

    [References: Nydwracu’s glossary, extended caste system]

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  • bbq beast Says:

    usually i try to laugh at the onion style reporting that is being put out by the msm these days, but this just leaves me mad.

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  • James A. Donald Says:

    Perhaps the left is structurally incapable of preventing itself from pushing things over the brink of catastrophe. It always has to take that one additional step, and it has no sense at all of how to back down.

    The left can, and frequently does, back down, only to renew the attack from a different angle.

    School busing is a good example.

    Today, instead of busing white kids into black neighborhoods so that blacks can beat them up and steal their lunch money, it section eights black kids to reside in white neighborhoods to that they can beat up the white kids and steal the white kids lunch money without the inconvenience of taking a bus.

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    Funeral Mongoloid Reply:

    ‘Today, instead of busing white kids into black neighborhoods so that blacks can beat them up and steal their lunch money, it section eights black kids to reside in white neighborhoods to that they can beat up the white kids and steal the white kids lunch money without the inconvenience of taking a bus’

    Admin – ‘bloke down the pub’ rubbish being permitted to stand as ‘intelligent comment’!

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    Michael Reply:

    its quite intelligent analyses of how the cathedral keeps trying mutations till one works Moldbug 101.
    Can I ask why ae you here with us racists are you saving souls or something

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    Alrenous Reply:

    http://blog.jim.com/culture/the-rectification-of-names-part-one/

    Hypocrisy, hypocrite: Originally meant someone who proclaims one code of action while acting differently, […] Now means a non progressive who fails to act according to progressive rules.

    🙂

    An example of how the progressive actually cannot understand non-progressive rules. Without being anointed an Authority, the progressive is actually incapable of learning from you.

    What I don’t understand is why these zombies so helpfully name themselves after crippling diseases. I think it’s supposed to be ironic? See also; something awful, rageahol. Quite the misstep for the acknowledged masters of propaganda. It’s almost by itself enough to prove that Aesthetics belong in philosophy, given that lionization of ugliness is so closely correlated with philosophical depravity.

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    Michael Reply:

    this is just the Cathedral going on the record as being shocked shocked

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  • Bryce Laliberte Says:

    I have to confess this is a first time that my ability to process events reasonably has been entirely voided by the absolute absurdity of these events, especially given my estimation that such an event is but the first of many (though undoubtedly covered up) ”outliers” of multiculturalism. My leftist friends, when I mentioned Rotherham, were all ”Rotherham who?” This most likely portends a future of Rotherhams, and you’re a bad person for noticing this.

    RIP Britain (871-2014).

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    scientism Reply:

    I think perhaps we, from what I assume are our fairly “privileged” positions (not having been “vulnerable youth”, but I only speak for myself here), don’t quite grasp how insidious the Cathedral is. This looks to us like the Cathedral coming apart, but consider that what we have here is a system that managed to train a succession of civil servants to overlook abuse. Not just one or two, but seemingly every last person involved with the council, the police force and the charities, was trained to overlook this kind of abuse, for 16 years.

    How can such an outcome be anything but the Cathedral firing on all cylinders, doing what it was designed to do? The immediate reality of the Cathedral for most of us is, essentially, having been misled by the media, having woken up and realised we’ve been lied to, perhaps knowing we’ve lost much of our culture. In the future, we expect some kind of collapse, we think things will get worse. But that’s in the future. On the other hand, the reality of the Cathedral for the civil servants, activists, etc, who are part of it is: Pakistani men raping little white girls while everybody looks the other way. The reality for the media: not reporting on these events, because it might make white people angry at a minority group. That’s their main concern, in both cases, not the abuse. That’s their daily lived experience: being complicit in atrocities while simultaneously being enraged by trivialities.

    This is what these guys do all day and have been doing for years. A little scandal isn’t going to change the way they do things. The only thing that’s going to end this is economic collapse or war.

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    Chris B Reply:

    Spot on, people of the UK voted in New Labor until the financial collapsed of 08. This was all sanctioned democratically. The Labor vote in Rotherham is weighed not counted. The whole time witch hunts were and are conducted against “racists”.

    Utter collapse is the only hope at this point. Getting people to realize this is impossible.

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    Kgaard Reply:

    So I’ve woken up at 4 a.m. and scrolled back through here to find this comment because it’s the one that has stuck with me out of the whole bunch. Your logic is pretty hard to rebut.

    I do not see economic collapse, and I don’t see war coming to the UK’s shores anytime soon. So the existing system continues as is, I guess. When you look to the top of the power structure, the logic of it all is crystal clear: Big business wants the bodies to offset all the babies not being created by native Brits. Labour, meanwhile, wants the immigrants because immigrants vote Labour. So it’s a pact made in hell — and the same pact has been made in the US and much of continental Europe. There is no stopping it that I can see. Who stops it? Who can withstand the combined force of the ENTIRE power structure coming down on their head — from the political left to the right? With that in mind, why are we even bothering to have this conversation in the first place?

    It makes sense that a place like Hungary would stand up and say NO to the pact: The country is not rich enough to have attracted a critical mass of immigrants yet. Meanwhile, the memories of communism are still fresh enough in people’s minds there to keep the left morally tainted in the popular mind.

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    scientism Reply:

    It’s essentially a set of pernicious feedback loops. The civil servants, the media and a large portion of the British public are experiencing a severe belief bias effect where all evidence confirms their Leftist outlook. Every atrocity is cause to double down on their anti-racist efforts. These efforts protect and enable the gangs and cause more atrocities. This serves to confirm the horrors of systemic racism in the mind of the anti-racist. When the natives try to organise against the protected immigrants, they’re merely seen as racism incarnate, again confirming the Leftist outlook. It’s difficult to see any end to it. These aren’t rational people; they’re caught in a system that develops and maintains a kind of delusive belief system. With the media and most university educated members of the public complicit, there’s little hope of exposure. The outrage of the uneducated masses merely confirms their racist nature. Nationalist groups inevitably find solace in anti-system symbolism and end up goose-stepping down the street, again conforming the worldview of the anti-racists. Everybody has a role to play and everything confirms Leftism! How do you escape that?

    Mark Warburton Reply:

    Nailed it. I don’t think I’ll ever bring up children in this country, regardless of what Spengler/Goldmansays.

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    Chris B Reply:

    @scientism – nukes. multiple nuke strikes. followed by more nukes.

    Michael Reply:

    yes its anarcho tyranny it demoralizes the men and triggers the women to defect. some of the men will to ABB did for a while and the whole wihgger phenomenon, even country music is full of ebonics now.The minority though stays true because the flip side is they are “oppressed” so they are triggered to band together ,the whites are evil so they disassociate.They are in effect using the prison system on whole white populations.

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  • Michael Says:

    @
    hes just defending the civil service because they re the only ones that hire his type

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  • peppermint Says:

    Richard Dawkins is still an ass-clown. He blames Muslims, as if were they to convert to atheism or at least Christianity they would be just fine.

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    Antisthenes Reply:

    Dogshit might not be pigshit or chickenshit, but it’s still shit.

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    admin Reply:

    There’s that, but if you read the tweet carefully, it begins with ethno-racial specifics, before reverting to his monotheistic religion happy hunting ground. (I think his revulsion at the left is nudging him into a more honest and realistic place.)

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    Michael Reply:

    I agree Dawkins is rational to a fault a spotted a crack and cant help prying Its how most come to the dark side

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    James A. Donald Reply:

    He blames Muslims, as if were they to convert to atheism or at least Christianity they would be just fine.

    Well, as a matter of fact, when they convert to Christianity they are just fine.

    And conversely, when middle class American white boys convert to Islam, they are apt to go off to Islamic State and cut off people’s heads.

    Islam tells its followers they should predate on non infidel women. So they do. What do you expect?

    Could be worse (and will be worse, soon enough) At present in Rotherdam they are predating on undefended infidel women, girls without fathers or husbands. Pretty soon they will be predating on defended infidel women, which will necessitate killing the fathers and husbands.

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  • Chris B Says:

    @admin I will see your Breivik head spinner and raise you this – http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2738113/ISIS-Mexico-Feds-DENY-watchdog-group-s-claim-terror-group-operating-Juarez-plans-imminent-car-bomb-attacks-US-targets.html

    followed by this – http://tdaxp.blogspirit.com/archive/2005/07/20/index.html

    (scroll down to border war)

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  • Hurlock Says:

    @ Alrenous

    I’d make fun of the mongoloid guy, but he is already doing it for me.

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    Erik Reply:

    I particularly like the part where the trisomy sufferer says he needs a challenge and is leaving for greener pastures at timestamp x0:29 here, then returns to drop a bunch more comments at x0:52, x1:20, x1:21, x1:27, x1:33 and x1.59.

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    Alrenous Reply:

    There’s a certain galvanizing effect. I’ve only seen it from the other side before.

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  • Cledun Says:

    @

    I’m not sure how reliable that Breivik “confession” is. Apparently the Swedish website that is the single source for it is an ANTIFA operation. That the only people who reported the story were guys like Robert Spencer of Jihadwatch, and Gates of Vienna, might be because the media is trying to cover up Breivik’s admission – but why would they NOT jump all over that and use it as a chance to tar all their opposition? Bob Spencer and GoV might also have jumped all over it, regardless of the specious sourcing, because they have such a strong interest in distancing themselves from Breivik, and the alleged confession vindicates them. And it really doesn’t make any tactical sense that Breivik would make such statements, at least not in my mind.

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