Scrap note (#11)

With all coherent productivity sucked into a knotty accelerationism essay at the moment, some fragments:

Fission update — apparently the geniuses in the NRx peanut gallery are now convinced that Justine Tunney has usurped Michael Anissimov in his universally-acknowledged holy office as God-Emperor of the New Reaction. Anissimov, to his great credit, is bemused. Is this stuff going to burn out in its own radiant insanity, or amplify to some yet unimagined level of crazy? The responsible option would be to abandon the ship of fools now, but it’s way too entertaining for that. Signalling some distance is becoming absolutely imperative, however.

One point that has to be emphasized with renewed fervor is the absolute priority of territorial fragmentation to any line of NRx discussion which begins to imagine itself ‘political’. Universalist models of the good society are entirely inconsistent with NRx at its foundations, and to turn such differences into political argument is to have wandered hopelessly off script. The whole point of neoreactionary social arrangements is to eliminate political argument, replacing it with practical problems of micro-migration. Facilitating homelands for one’s antagonists is even more important than designing them for one’s friends. (Even the old Republic of South Africa knew that — although it botched the execution.) Geographical sorting dispels dialectics.


Brett Stevens (of the Amerika blog, @amerika_blog)  has gone super-nova on Twitter in a way that screams impending burn-out, but for the moment he’s a source of superb commentary and linkage. Among very recent gems, these two pieces, raising questions about the restoration of sophisticated teleological ideas within natural science.

Also, another two on the Cathedralization of SF literary institutions, unfolding in public.


Mark Steyn comes out as a Sailer reader. No huge surprise there, I guess, but the darkness grows …


My crown of thorns is itching.

My crown of thorns is itching.

From what I have seen of the Transcendence response, the movie has been almost universally misunderstood. Immodestly, I think my as-yet-unwritten blog post on the topic gets it with the title Easter of the Nerds. Idiotically, most reviewers describe it as being about the dangers of artificial super-intelligence. In reality, it’s about the human sin of fear and denial of God, culminating in the murder of the Messiah (as computationally-incarnated divinity), and his quiet return, in a garden, framing the entire picture in the promise of resurrection. It thus exposes Transhumanism not only as a Christian sub-clade, but as a remarkably conservative sub-clade (certainly in comparison to Mainline Protestantism). The significance of this needs exploring at some point …

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  • Scrap note (#11) | Reaction Times Says:

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    Posted on May 1st, 2014 at 8:48 pm Reply | Quote
  • nydwracu Says:

    The whole point of neoreactionary social arrangements is to eliminate political argument, replacing it with practical problems of micro-migration.

    Yes, techno-commercialism is very much a branch of libertarianism…


    Posted on May 2nd, 2014 at 2:42 am Reply | Quote
  • AI Says:

    Re: recent themes in Hollywood sci-fi.

    Seen Jonathan Glazer’s ‘Under the Skin’? Johansson gives a far darker portrayal of alien intelligence here than the one you get in ‘Her’. The human dissolved by alien energetics is one way of reading it. Curious to know your take.

    Looking forward to the imminent post on Transcendence, but not half as much as that essay on accelerationism.


    Posted on May 2nd, 2014 at 8:49 am Reply | Quote
  • VXXC Says:

    Yes been meaning to bring this up. Why is NRxn self-destructing? Which it is in a strange navel gazing self-absorbed teenage girl way. Well part of the reason is leading lights turned the energy inwards, in one case by firmly declaring the only acceptable arrangement is the improbable “patchwork.” Thereby turning momentum against the common foe into camp squabbles and self-disintegration.

    “to turn such differences into political argument is to have wandered hopelessly off script.” Well that’s true, so why was it done?

    “The whole point of neoreactionary social arrangements is to eliminate political argument, replacing it with practical problems of micro-migration. ” NeoReaction doesn’t have any actual social arrangements other than online, and that’s not you know where we actually live . One brush with mortality will convince anyone of that.

    I very much doubt that a political online movement can or should eliminate political argument. It should direct it’s energies carefully and to common purpose, not the agendas of individuals.

    Practical problems of micro-migration only apply to the micro-migrators.

    I say that this self-destructive turning inward of what are only negative energies – nor as they are reactions to attacks by mortal foes of our people could they be anything but negative – these energies must resume their common purpose against those enemies.


    Posted on May 2nd, 2014 at 10:13 am Reply | Quote
  • VXXC Says:

    Neoreaction is capicitance of negative electric energy unwittingly concatenated by Cathedral.

    [say that 3 times fast].

    We deliver shocks or slowly discharge to ether.

    At present we’re slowly and pitifully discharging to ether.


    admin Reply:

    So what’s your story about Goulding, Vladimir, Foseti, Spandrell … and others (cream of the original crop) who are either overtly washing their hands of the whole business, or dropping into disillusioned inactivity? I hope you’re not going to stretch credibility by blaming ‘infighting’ for that. There’s something rotten in the House of Denmark, and it needs to be dealt with before degeneration into an ENR-style crypto-fascist thug-politics becomes irreversible.


    E.Antony Gray (RiverC) Reply:

    Maybe that rottenness stems from certain commentators that jump in, claiming to speak for the movement as a whole definitively, stridently, and bombastically.

    In the Orthodox world we have a parable about flies and bees.


    Peter A. Taylor Reply:

    I’d like to hear the parable, please.

    SGW Reply:

    I believe that he is referring to this one:

    “I know from experience that in this life people are divided in two categories. A third category does not exist; people either belong to one of the other. The first one resembles the fly. The main characteristic of the fly is that it is attracted by dirt. For example, when a fly is found in a garden full of flowers with beautiful fragrances, it will ignore them and will go sit on top of some dirt found on the ground. It will start messing around with it and feel comfortable with the bad smell. If the fly could talk, and you asked it it show you a rose in the garden, it would answer: “I don’t even know what a rose looks like. I only know where to find garbage, toilets, and dirt.” there are some people who resemble the fly. People belonging to this category have learned to think negatively, and always look for the bad things in life, ignoring and refusing the presence of good.

    The other category is like the bee whose main characteristic is to always look for something sweet and nice to sit on. When a bee is found in a room full of dirt and there is a small piece of sweet in a corner, it will ignore the dirt and will go to sit on top of the sweet. Now, if we ask the bee to show us where the garbage is, it will answer: “I don’t know. I can only tell you where to find flowers, sweets, honey and sugar; it only knows the good things in life and is ignorant of all evil.” This is the second category of people who have a positive way of thinking, and see only the good side of things. They always try to cover up the evil in order to protect their fellow men; on the contrary, people in the first category try to expose the evil and bring it to the surface.

    When someone comes to me and starts accusing other people, and puts me in a difficult situation, I tell him the above example. Then, I ask him to decide to which category he wishes to belong, so he may find people of the same kind to socialize with.”

    admin Reply:

    I’m having difficulty mentally Frankensteining together a Dark Enlightenment bee.

    E. Antony Gray (@RiverC) Reply:

    A delicate balance. The difference between diagnosis and dung-sniffing.

    Posted on May 2nd, 2014 at 10:30 am Reply | Quote
  • Wilhelm von Überlieferung Says:

    Interesting articles and yet more interesting questions.

    Why is the Universe the way it is? Why does Occam’s Razor work so well when searching for explanations to nature’s wonders?

    Whence does life originate? And why has it long defied explanation within the logical positivist paradigm of reductionism? Have we not learned from Quine’s Two Dogmas?

    I have yet to watch Transcendence–I’ll probably wait for a digital distribution release–but could it be that in exploring the essence of transhumanist thought, we rediscover the hitherto lost magic of our own transcendant realm? A true teleological orientation under which to stratify ourselves, reigniting meaning and purpose?

    Perhaps, in the end, Evola was right and he has yet to have his day under the Black Sun?


    Posted on May 2nd, 2014 at 10:59 am Reply | Quote
  • SGW Says:

    I think that reducing neoreactionary social arrangements to one based around exit is a bit premature. As long as policymakers have to follow the meta, and the US cathedral is the primary determinant of the meta, meaningful fragmentation is impossible, due to big cathedrals absorbing smaller ones, thus a culture war is necessary. Alternative proposals, tainted by universalism, are useful weapons in this culture war.

    Moldbug, as the founder of NRx and the creator of its foundation, basically had two primary proposals: the creation of an antiversity as a form of vaccination for puritan memes and the development of the technology required for the existence of an apolitical world where it is possible for smaller, ideologically diverse, states to survive and flourish and where consequently the need for brainwashing, and the universalism that accompanies it, no longer would be a major issue.

    Culture wars may be a bit low-tech, but besides developing advanced cryptographic technology and the like, it’s about all that can be done, next to not feeding the beast by exiting to patches with an effective counter-cathedral. Once the prerequisites for apolitical governance are met exit will be the only significant means of influencing policy, but that’s currently not the case, and I don’t see why we should pretend otherwise.


    admin Reply:

    “Culture wars may be a bit low-tech, but besides developing advanced cryptographic technology and the like, it’s about all that can be done …” — which leaves the question how to do it effectively. I seriously doubt engaging in a Neo-Puritan arms race of reciprocal skirt-clutching and outrage is the way to move anything forward in a positive way.


    nydwracu Reply:

    Progressives promoting multilingualism don’t know what they’re doing. Now if only they still spoke German in Pennsylvania and Texas…

    (A revival of German in America would be a step toward patchwork. Or, hell, Latin. Anglish isn’t as effective, but it’s easier. Slightly. It could be made useful through extensive calquing of German. But at that point, why not just revive Old English? At least it has case.)


    Maniġreordodnisforþende Hwiggas (heh) ne cnǣwþ hwæt hiē dōþ. {Hwænne ēac|ġif ænliġ}* þā Pennsylvanisc ond Texanisc sprecen** ġiet*** Þēodsc…

    * I prefer to fill in the gaps in the grammar with German calques (that is, whatever spits out, since my German has gone to shit), but it’s also possible to borrow structures from Modern English.
    ** Past in ModE, but present subjunctive in OE. I think.
    *** Not sure about this, but it seems to be the least bad option.


    Peter A. Taylor Reply:

    What language is that? Bing thinks it’s French. Google thinks it’s Welsh or Dutch.

    I don’t understand where you’re going with this. How would it be to my advantage to become fluent in German?

    nydwracu Reply:

    It’s Old English.

    Linguistic barriers are barriers to memetic spread. It’s unlikely that Modern English could be removed entirely, but if there’s a properly thedish language that isn’t English, English-language memes are marked as elthedish. This is already intuitively understood in the case of dialects: Bush adopted a Texas accent for a reason.

    Posted on May 2nd, 2014 at 12:52 pm Reply | Quote
  • Handle Says:

    The lesson is that if one is going to embed symbolism in a contemporary film then one mustn’t be too subtle or assume too much about the ability of your critics to share and recognize certain cultural markers when they see them, even if those symbols would have been universally and immediately obvious to the entire audience only a few decades ago.

    So, how to avoid this problem and still produce a subtle, sophisticated movie without telegraphing and spoon-feeding the underlying message?

    I think you’ve basically got to fake a review and push it out ahead of and in front of everything else. “Oh, transcendence is so brilliant, and it’s a shame most people aren’t perceptive enough to pick up on all its cleverness. Look at how the director has slyly used the Christian narrative here, and see how machine-like Depp’s character seems, and …”

    Then to bolster the sneaky back-channel telegraph, you have an interview with the script-writer and director and they say, “Yeah, we were worried it might be too subtle and people wouldn’t get it, but that one critic really saw it all, which was a relief.”

    And then you make sure all the internet marketing always contained a link to that original review, but put in the ad bar, or in the ‘related’ or ‘you might also like’ links area, which seems perfectly random and machine-generated, but which really has the explanation.

    Artists always want to produce high-brow products but get low-brow mass-market money. Having a movie with ‘layers’ that are appreciated at different levels by different audiences, is a kind of holy grail. You can keep your self-respect and esteem amongst the elite by producing a ‘secretly sophisticated’ movie, but also pack in the crowds. I think ‘Lost’ is a good candidate for first-generation experiments in this genre.

    Unfortunately, the old elite of movie critics isn’t up to the task of mining for the Straussian film beneath the surface, anymore. So you’ve got to pre-mine it for them, and hand them the precious metal in a deniable way.

    Prediction: Artists who figure this out and can produce the whole ‘differential levels of experience strategy’ and pull it off successfully are going to do very, very well.


    Posted on May 2nd, 2014 at 2:11 pm Reply | Quote
  • VXXC Says:

    Well then I have a better answer, thank you.

    “There’s something rotten in the House of Denmark, and it needs to be dealt with before degeneration into an ENR-style crypto-fascist thug-politics becomes irreversible.”

    OK. Well now that is a decent motive and answer.

    So – don’t worry they won’t, won’t get it – operational pause for the uncommitted to lose interest and erratically flight onto else? OK. Thank you.

    And I withdraw any accusatory tone, although I thought I scrubbed it.

    I will continue to maintain that exit to anywhere outside your thede or group is going to be very dangerous. Possibly very fast. When the world realizes at last [what it already knows] that the world is out of money, but everyone is a prisoner of debts…it will be very ugly and chaotic. And that which isn’t chaos is likely to be the biggest and best organized psychopaths around.


    Posted on May 2nd, 2014 at 2:24 pm Reply | Quote
  • VXXC Says:

    There’s two kinds of people in the world, those who must taxonomize by two’s…and those who don’t.

    As to the others who washed hands: it was always when, never If, and why: cuz there is any hint of consequences good or bad. One who is fearful of consequences will be keen both to avoid them, yet somehow desiring of forgiveness. Which for the most part I personally am more than charitable about. I quite forgive human nature as I know others forgive in me. There is actually no good consequences without risk of bad. Any endeavor where you can see only good and not bad…and someone is being fooled, possibly innocently enough.

    Now again thank you, please forgive any suspicious tone, and bravo for sticking it out.

    Not least standing up to me. I need it too from time to time.


    Posted on May 2nd, 2014 at 2:31 pm Reply | Quote
  • VXXC Says:

    W/regard to Fly or Bee: there’s more to life then bees and flies. And there’s no nice way to clean Aegean stables. You’re get shit on you.


    Posted on May 2nd, 2014 at 2:38 pm Reply | Quote
  • noir Says:

    NRx needs a consolidation of power. As I see it as an outsider there seems no cohesion, no gravitas. Someone needs to ramp it up, rather than dissipating all this mountain of ideas. If it is to last it will need a core group to enforce some form of order before chaos sets in and NRx implodes. Without some form of a manifesto or rallying point of intellectual breadth and force the less intellectual among you will barbarize the dark city.

    I have yet to see a book produced of quality beyond Bryce Laliberte ‘What is Neoreaction?’ hodge-podge or miscellany. Moldbug’s site obfuscates more than clarifies. One has neither the time nor energy to take on all his wordiness. He needs editing and a hell of a lot of consolidation and clarification. As for others… ideas all over the spectrum, no cohesion. Seems more like an ultra-right anarchistic haberdash party without the bombers.

    With so many withdrawing from its precincts it sounds like nightmaresville has risen in your midst. Where are your Lovecraft wannabees? A Dark Enlightenment needs foot soldiers in the trenches, but it seems more like everyone is either AWOL or betting on the wrong horse.


    handle Reply:

    A lot of us just don’t have the time because we have families, social obligations, and need to earn a living in time consuming work. The economy is full of good opportunities for talented people, but they are quite demanding, and it doesn’t leave anything for what is, in effect, a secret, second life. Being neither student not scholar takes it’s toll. What a banal, mundane and petty answer, I confess. But true. It’s probably inevitably true for the set of people likely to be amongst the top talents of any non mainstream right community.


    noir Reply:

    No, no, not banal at all. Yea, I understand. Hell, I’m the same, work basically 12 hours a day… 3 of them on the frekking highway to / from work. Family and extended families, etc. in my own home because of the current economy. So, yea, I understand completely. I try, and even have been for two years working on a dystopic quartet trying to incorporate the underbelly of both the Right and Left. The extremes seem to meet on the edge without realizing it for the most part. I think there’s only a few of us old geezers that really push beyond the crap and see we’re all in this together. And we better all begin to understand each others actual day to day problems lest we end up killing each other over stupidity.


    handle Reply:

    Could you tell me more about the quartet?

    noir Reply:

    Sure. First in sequence starts with a typical joe, a working guy, an auto mechanic. Does the usual, goes in everyday, takes pride in his work, his knowledge of cars, trucks, etc. Has had the usual training, knows his stuff. Has a family, wife, kids, etc. Goes bowling on Tuesdays, cards on Thursdays, Friday nights at the ballpark with his sons, Saturday with the wife movies, dinner, the usual…

    One day for lunch his buddy Sam and he go for chicken, take the usual route they’ve taken for years, but this time something happens. Their in a wreck. It’s like slow motion for Charley, like he is turning in a vortex, moving without moving, the truck their in tumbling out of control as a semi ran a stop light and slams into them. In the midst of this something happens, Charley seems to phase shift, to suddenly feel like he’s in a slow motion movie moving backward not knowing what’s going on. Then he blanks out. The next thing he does is wake up in the hospital. The people around him are not his family but strangers he’s never met before, who seem to know him and call him by name as if on familiar terms. Charley asks about his friend Sam, but the people look at him and each other not knowing what to say except: “Sam, who’s Sam?”

    It goes on like this with Charley perplexed that he’s among strangers, that they have no clue about his friend, that the Doctors are treating him for a sickness not a car wreck, etc. He’s basically lost in another realm without knowing it. It’s as if it is his world but just a little different and he can’t figure just what is different. He asks to see his family and is told that he has none, no wife, no kids, no living relatives, He begins to rage, cry out in anger, etc. They give me a tranq to calm him down, He falls asleep. When he awakens he grabs his clothes and sneaks out into the world. He notices right off the bat he’s not in Texas anymore.

    on it goes… sf – political allegory – modern urban myth – you name it I’m feeding the horse everything along the way…


    Posted on May 2nd, 2014 at 3:33 pm Reply | Quote
  • northanger Says:

    The Tale of the Dark Enlightenment Bee.
    By, Googleis Urfriend

    “First and foremost, ground bees are beneficial insects that perform an important role as pollinators. Ground-nesting bees include the digger bees (family Anthoporidae), sweat bees (family Halictidae), and mining bees (family Andrenidae)”

    “I’ve been helping my girlfriend dig her garden, and we’ve noticed that we
    are being plagued by bees which are attracted to the freshly-dug earth. Can
    anyone suggest why they are attracted, and how to discourage them?”

    “It’s quite easy, you just tell them to bee hive themselves.”

    “Hmm, I don’t like to answer questions about things I haven’t experienced myself. I’m a reformed academic. Advice based on extensive reading instead of extensive experience is an artifice of hubris, and I’ve seen too much of it. I just want to punch people who fall for that junk, and punch myself when I go off like I’m so sure of what I’m saying because I read it in a book. Anyhoo…

    I don’t know what to say about bees drinking in bird baths.”

    “Why are honey bees in my trash bins?”

    “Once the snow melts, Canada’s bee population will be back in business—pollinating, making honey and keeping busy doing bee things. For at least two urban bee species, that means making nests out of plastic waste.”

    “French beekeepers in the town Ribeauville noticed their bees started producing blue, green and red honey this summer and they couldn’t figure out why. Turns out it was bee-cause the lil stingers were eating the waste from an M&M factory. Hell, I’d eat the waste from an M&M factory too!”


    E. Antony Gray (@RiverC) Reply:

    hehe, you sir deserve a medal for that one.


    Posted on May 2nd, 2014 at 6:16 pm Reply | Quote
  • soapjackal Says:


    “One point that has to be emphasized with renewed fervor is the absolute priority of territorial fragmentation to any line of NRx discussion which begins to imagine itself ‘political’”

    The NRx is not quite yet beyond the political. It is a step outside of the overton window into politics that would be considered thought crime. There is something else hiding in the ether. Something represented by those 3 letter NRx far more than the phrase neoreaction. There is a phase shift but first one has to accept the heritage and the fulcrum from which is the old thing in new flesh is standing on.

    “Universalist models of the good society are entirely inconsistent with NRx at its foundations, and to turn such differences into political argument is to have wandered hopelessly off script”

    Wandered? The NRx’s foundations are indeed apolitical, but also purely political in its study of power, as they extend past the normal limits of such conversations. The discovery of this started as politics incarnate though. One would do well to not forget this.

    “The whole point of neoreactionary social arrangements is to eliminate political argument, replacing it with practical problems of micro-migration.”

    Not particularly. This is the goal of patchwork enthusiasts. You will never eliminate the political argument. For power will always be the prime factor of human relations. You may shift the leftist abomination of modern political discourse, but there is no eliminating political argument and there is certainly nothing practical in ignoring them.

    “Facilitating homelands for one’s antagonists is even more important than designing them for one’s friends.”

    Not really. One has to judge. Order in chaos. However doing ones best to force the enemy to live within his bosom is a titanic mistake that r-types wish to harness for a form of cultural suicide.


    Posted on May 2nd, 2014 at 8:50 pm Reply | Quote
  • Chuck Says:

    ” Universalist models of the good society are entirely inconsistent with NRx at its foundations, and to turn such differences into political argument is to have wandered hopelessly off script. The whole point of neoreactionary social arrangements is to eliminate political argument, replacing it with practical problems of micro-migration.”

    Imagine that populace A happily lived in high-end real-estate (nice weather, ample water, nice infrastructure) region A under authority A. Most of this group was happy with the policies; those unhappy (enough) left for some other region. Imagine that Authority A converted to bizarro ideology B and began enacting policies not in line with populace A’s interest. In the situation, populace A could abandon the high-end real-estate region or remove authority A. The removal could be justified on the grounds of a loss of heavenly mandate (in which case authority A is seen as an employee of heaven but evaluated by the people) or poor stewardship (in which case authority A is seen as a direct employee of populace A). Now, you would that populace A, or the majority thereof, simply abandon region A — despite doing so not being in this populace’s interest. From the perspective of power: “why?”

    One might reply: “Granting the power logic of collective coercion, grants the logic of full blown collective egalitarianism” — as if the former teleports us onto a run away logical freight car headed into oblivion. To me this is all too Western: philosophical fanaticism (taking an idea either/or and then to its logical extreme). Nonsense — principles are instincts, the compromises between them; the rules are subject to continual evaluation reevaluation, situation depending. Democracy can represent an interesting compromise between the individually powerful and the individually weak made powerful via collective action. It can also represent a great stupidity, when it is taken for something other than what it is. With neocameralism, as seemingly formulated, you are just dancing from one insanity to another, driven by the underlying madness of philosophical fanaticism, more specifically a rationalist model of moral meta-philosophy. (Why even want to eliminate moral-political argument, viewed as power struggle and negotiation?) Democracy, properly understood, is a truce. In light of current events (within the last century), a renegotiation should be demanded (– but by whom?) Neocameralism is not that, though it’s an idea to work with. Before discussions can even proceed, though, a realism about moral-political philosophical, akin to a political realism, is needed. If the realization of this realization is not a part of the dark enlightenment, then an even darker one must be had.


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