Scrap note #2

Nydwracu (twittering) describes the MSM’s recursive regurgitations of the previous week’s neoreaction creep-out as “the human centipede” — sheer genius.

ADDED: The Centipede.

January 22, 2014admin 18 Comments »
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  • Artemisia Says:

    Aren’t human centipedes everywhere…


    Danny Deaver Reply:

    Giant aquatic black centipedes versus human centipedes…after that, Minraud sky, their eggs all over.


    Posted on January 22nd, 2014 at 4:52 pm Reply | Quote
  • handle Says:

    So much more brilliant than ‘echo chamber’. It looks like that awful film has, through nydwracu, indirectly made a contribution to human civilization after all.


    nydwracu Reply:

    The Most Frightening Horror Movie — and that is its reputation, as far as I can tell — has already contributed, by pointing out what precisely is Most Frightening…

    (Zombies, on the other hand, aren’t properly scary. They’re dangerous, sure, but the point is that you get to kill them all.)


    Handle Reply:

    You coming today?


    Posted on January 22nd, 2014 at 5:42 pm Reply | Quote
  • Nyk Says:

    Reminds me of the time when La Wik put THC as a featured article on its homepage for everyone to read.


    Posted on January 22nd, 2014 at 8:43 pm Reply | Quote
  • Igitur Says:

    I’ll just quote myself from the comments to another post here.

    […] while I’m generally for pronomiamism, this “NR credentials” thing pushes me away. Static labels are dangerous — I might be comfortable with 80% with what passes for HBD these days, but not be willing to out myself as NR and bear with the white supremacists.

    I think NR as an identity is being pushed too much at the expense of NR as a strategy. As a result? When it’s being attacked in the media, all we know is to discuss dead-end philosophy and congratulate ourselves on.. our antinomiamism. When we should be able to scatter like “Anonymous” and say “no one speaks for us, we’re above all a zeitgeist and a movement only as a result, we’re growing out of the ruins of your moral, intellectual and civiilizational failures”.


    fotrkd Reply:

    I should clarify my original point – ‘credentials’ was an unhelpful word. I wasn’t claiming one position was more NR than the other. I only meant to indicate there was a split, which – feeding into Lesser Bull’s band of travelers concept – is no bad thing.


    fotrkd Reply:

    P.S. You made me re-read this:

    And we extend our concept of number as in spinning a thread we twist fibre on fibre. And the strength of the thread does not reside in the fact that some one fibre runs through its whole length, but in the overlapping of many fibres.

    Does that work to some up the neoreaction banner? (Bonus question: which dead-end philosopher said it?)


    fotrkd Reply:

    Admin (expedition permitting) – would you fix the gruesome spelling mistake? Thanks!

    Igitur Reply:


    There’s a chilean folk song to that effect. I mean, those specific words. (Note: I’m from what we used to call “the third world”, but not Chile specifically; my father lived in several countries as a young man, and picked that up.)

    But really, there’s nothing NR-specific to anargument for solidarity. We’re constantly asked to give a little more leeway to the sins of those in our in-groups. The problem with that is that there’s no natural way to draw boundaries — the point is not why I should tolerate the sillier among the “race realists” (and that’s not to say there isn’t some smart folk in the HBD set, but that there’s no clear process to discriminate); the point is that “social justice” is horrendous, democracy is unsustainable and so on.

    The point that I gave up continuing last time is that this — NR — is no cure; it’s rather an outward manifestation of the disease. Thus strategy: creep-out is good, precisely because it commits this side to manifesting the disease rather than concocting primitive patent-medicine cures.

    You can’t fight progressivism with “your kind of progress is not optimal, this kind of progress is not really that scary once I’m able to explain”. What you can do is show them the wounds, like aggressive beggars sometimes will do in my third world megalopolis — this is what is happening; this isn’t me, this is t he world gone mad.

    What you really want is them to develop the disease themselves. This is how anyone wins: oozing from people’s very pores. There’s maybe tens of thousands of Handles and Nydwracus to happen yet before any kind of war is about to begin.

    In short: make rhizomes, not roots. Forget militaristic metaphor, the contemporary Left needs to be sweated out.

    fotrkd Reply:

    The thread is a rhizome – that’s its strength. Fibres snap; spinning continues; the thread breaks, multiplies, re-knits (breaks again…). Exactly like juncus effussus, but it is being constructed for a very particular (but not strictly defined) purpose:

    the point is that “social justice” is horrendous, democracy is unsustainable and so on.

    Posted on January 23rd, 2014 at 5:14 pm Reply | Quote
  • Antisthenean Says:

    @fotrkd I don’t see how that’s meant to sum up NR at all.

    Props for trying to bring Ludwig in though. Have you read Anarchopapist’s discussion of W?

    (and yes, I still consider him a dead end for our purposes. Wittgenstein was more politically apathetic than any other philosopher in history).


    fotrkd Reply:

    I’m not going to labour the point – Philosophical Investigations is working for me – but in the preface Wittgenstein tells us what the book is about:

    The thoughts which I publish… concern many subjects: … states of consciousness, and other things.

    What is politics but competing states of consciousness? Reading it as a book about mere language is to do it a disservice.


    Antisthenean Reply:


    “What is politics but competing states of consciousness?” – You might not realize it, but this is a metaphorical usage. Perhaps you find it useful. That is fine. However, if you’re reading Wittgenstein and you find it possible to think that any given thing (e.g. politics) is nothing “but” a metaphor for it, I think you might not have grasped him fully yet.


    Like the passage about threads being wound on one another, the very term ‘consciousness’ is so un-analyzed and open to interpretation that you could draw semi-plausible links between them and almost anything, including the Dark Enlightenment. Again, it’s fine if it “works” for you (Wittgenstein was certainly a formative influence for me), but any link you try to draw between these and NR is going to be specious and not really useful to the rest of us, whether we’ve read W or not.

    Nobody is saying that W is merely a philosopher of language, but for him and other philosophers of the linguistic turn language is certainly central, even with regard to religion and ethics. Getting past the linguistic turn means rigorously learning and then unlearning this view. The mistake is not to unlearn it (many analytics did not).

    As I said before, Anarchopapist’s very personal and recent confrontation with Wittgenstein might provide a better starting point for a discussion of W and semantics, if you’ve read it. My objection is to the idea that your snippets from PI should become slogans for NR. That’s all.


    Posted on January 24th, 2014 at 9:05 am Reply | Quote
  • anonymous Says:

    That’s great. The progressives aren’t even clever these days, they don’t have good quips.


    Posted on January 26th, 2014 at 4:30 am Reply | Quote
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