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		<title>By: Super Bowl Sunday update &#124; Aimless Gromar</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/scrap-notes-4/#comment-33894</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Super Bowl Sunday update &#124; Aimless Gromar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 23:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] I&#8217;ve followed Nick Land&#8217;s advice and made things a bit simpler by modifying my persona from Amos &amp; Gromar to Aimless Gromar. I [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I&#8217;ve followed Nick Land&#8217;s advice and made things a bit simpler by modifying my persona from Amos &amp; Gromar to Aimless Gromar. I [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: handle</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/scrap-notes-4/#comment-33713</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;re waiting for the return of kings, then the best symbol is an empty throne.  Like Clint Eastwood and the empty chair, or when some Jews  leave a space for Elijah at passover.  I think I read about a Mormon temple which has a room for Jesus too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re waiting for the return of kings, then the best symbol is an empty throne.  Like Clint Eastwood and the empty chair, or when some Jews  leave a space for Elijah at passover.  I think I read about a Mormon temple which has a room for Jesus too.</p>
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		<title>By: Valvar</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/scrap-notes-4/#comment-33709</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 09:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;@&lt;/strong&gt;

As Igitur said, actually having a frontman might be a bad idea. Gives them a good strawman to tear apart. If you do want a frontman, I suggest that you choose someone who is suitably raving mad. That, and the ability to maintain an aura of supreme superiority in the face of any monstrous opposition. That&#039;s where the madness kicks in. And that&#039;s why I believe that Mr. Land is an excellent frontman, regardless of his views.]]></description>
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<p>As Igitur said, actually having a frontman might be a bad idea. Gives them a good strawman to tear apart. If you do want a frontman, I suggest that you choose someone who is suitably raving mad. That, and the ability to maintain an aura of supreme superiority in the face of any monstrous opposition. That&#8217;s where the madness kicks in. And that&#8217;s why I believe that Mr. Land is an excellent frontman, regardless of his views.</p>
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		<title>By: Igitur</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 09:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Peter A. Taylor

Beginner mind. Now, there&#039;s something I agree with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Peter A. Taylor</p>
<p>Beginner mind. Now, there&#8217;s something I agree with.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter A. Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/scrap-notes-4/#comment-33706</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter A. Taylor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 05:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of thoughts on the Cathedral vs. the Dark Enlightenment:

In Buddhist terms, the Cathedral is full of &quot;expert mind&quot;.  They think they have all the answers.  In expert mind, there are few possibilities.  The DE is full of &quot;beginner mind&quot;.  In beginner mind, there are many possibilities.

The &quot;neo&quot; in neoreactionary means that this beginner mind is the result of a radical disillusionment.

&quot;These are the only genuine ideas, the ideas of the shipwrecked. All the rest is rhetoric, posturing, farce.&quot;  -- Søren Kierkegaard]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of thoughts on the Cathedral vs. the Dark Enlightenment:</p>
<p>In Buddhist terms, the Cathedral is full of &#8220;expert mind&#8221;.  They think they have all the answers.  In expert mind, there are few possibilities.  The DE is full of &#8220;beginner mind&#8221;.  In beginner mind, there are many possibilities.</p>
<p>The &#8220;neo&#8221; in neoreactionary means that this beginner mind is the result of a radical disillusionment.</p>
<p>&#8220;These are the only genuine ideas, the ideas of the shipwrecked. All the rest is rhetoric, posturing, farce.&#8221;  &#8212; Søren Kierkegaard</p>
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		<title>By: Peter A. Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/scrap-notes-4/#comment-33705</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter A. Taylor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 05:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know.  I think this ferret thing has legs.

Would a ferret make a good king?  A ferret&#039;s got to better than a heron.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know.  I think this ferret thing has legs.</p>
<p>Would a ferret make a good king?  A ferret&#8217;s got to better than a heron.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter A. Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/scrap-notes-4/#comment-33702</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter A. Taylor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 04:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It does.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does.</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/scrap-notes-4/#comment-33696</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 02:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You don&#039;t want a spokesman, hierarchy, or visible targets.

Really the Top Spot of Public Enemy #1 Hate.org isn&#039;t desireable, or the number 3 man in AQ.

I pointed out that Derb passed the courage test, that&#039;s all.  

The Internet itself is a valuable organization to emulate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t want a spokesman, hierarchy, or visible targets.</p>
<p>Really the Top Spot of Public Enemy #1 Hate.org isn&#8217;t desireable, or the number 3 man in AQ.</p>
<p>I pointed out that Derb passed the courage test, that&#8217;s all.  </p>
<p>The Internet itself is a valuable organization to emulate.</p>
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		<title>By: Igitur</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Igitur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 02:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@neovictorian23

Assuming you can estimate clean harmonics for the structural elements of the building, and that ancillary elements aren&#039;t too dampening. There&#039;s a reason why sonic demolition of edifices isn&#039;t such an easy terrorist tactic. 

Curtis Yarvin scored a major coup defining an enemy-figure that may just be a strawman. The Cathedral that&#039;s destroying my world is not the Cathedral destroying your world. Nevermind the frakking Grammies, Agamben and Negri and Sloterdijk are the enemies. (All while I&#039;m kind of sympathetic to the new breed of &#039;market monetarists&#039; advocating nominal GDP targets; some will accept nothing short of Mises-Rothbard supremacism).

Admin said that a threshold might be approaching well in his early-january prognoses; I didn&#039;t understand him well. One of two things can happen, as I see it now:

1)  This NR ball of kinetic energy falls asleep -- and not by occasional friction like this back-and-forth right now, but by gentleman disagreement in the details ballooning to living in different worlds. Frog in a boiling pan, as the americanism goes.

2) We develop into some kind of body-without-organs mechanism (possibly, maybe preferably without all the deleuzo-pseudoscientological-techspeak; I might just be guilty of pushing a personal religion too far) that works the &lt;em&gt;effect-producing capacity&lt;/em&gt; we have, even if only the capacity to creep out for the time being, but leaves the personal convictions and the personal goals as free variables. This is not unlike the Cathedral itself, in mechanism.

There&#039;s a &quot;middle part&quot; in common. The beginnings and ends couldn&#039;t be more dissimilar. 

I don&#039;t share your views. What I share with you is an interest in effecting (not &quot;affecting&quot;, producing effects) the world, sharing a &lt;em&gt;movement&lt;/em&gt; -- made of velocity and momentum, rather than physiognomy and genotype. This is actually happening -- as repulsive as the &quot;manosphere&quot; within HBD bothers me, it&#039;s different enough from John Norman that I can be part of its &lt;em&gt;movement&lt;/em&gt; towards dismantling the White Cathedral (as opposed to a putative counter-Cathedral that might be a proposal, or maybe just a metaphor,  for the social operation of the DE).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@neovictorian23</p>
<p>Assuming you can estimate clean harmonics for the structural elements of the building, and that ancillary elements aren&#8217;t too dampening. There&#8217;s a reason why sonic demolition of edifices isn&#8217;t such an easy terrorist tactic. </p>
<p>Curtis Yarvin scored a major coup defining an enemy-figure that may just be a strawman. The Cathedral that&#8217;s destroying my world is not the Cathedral destroying your world. Nevermind the frakking Grammies, Agamben and Negri and Sloterdijk are the enemies. (All while I&#8217;m kind of sympathetic to the new breed of &#8216;market monetarists&#8217; advocating nominal GDP targets; some will accept nothing short of Mises-Rothbard supremacism).</p>
<p>Admin said that a threshold might be approaching well in his early-january prognoses; I didn&#8217;t understand him well. One of two things can happen, as I see it now:</p>
<p>1)  This NR ball of kinetic energy falls asleep &#8212; and not by occasional friction like this back-and-forth right now, but by gentleman disagreement in the details ballooning to living in different worlds. Frog in a boiling pan, as the americanism goes.</p>
<p>2) We develop into some kind of body-without-organs mechanism (possibly, maybe preferably without all the deleuzo-pseudoscientological-techspeak; I might just be guilty of pushing a personal religion too far) that works the <em>effect-producing capacity</em> we have, even if only the capacity to creep out for the time being, but leaves the personal convictions and the personal goals as free variables. This is not unlike the Cathedral itself, in mechanism.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a &#8220;middle part&#8221; in common. The beginnings and ends couldn&#8217;t be more dissimilar. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t share your views. What I share with you is an interest in effecting (not &#8220;affecting&#8221;, producing effects) the world, sharing a <em>movement</em> &#8212; made of velocity and momentum, rather than physiognomy and genotype. This is actually happening &#8212; as repulsive as the &#8220;manosphere&#8221; within HBD bothers me, it&#8217;s different enough from John Norman that I can be part of its <em>movement</em> towards dismantling the White Cathedral (as opposed to a putative counter-Cathedral that might be a proposal, or maybe just a metaphor,  for the social operation of the DE).</p>
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		<title>By: neovictorian23</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 01:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My Dear Igitur, 

Plans? Concrete or otherwise? No plan survives contact with the enemy. What&#039;s needed now is &lt;i&gt;Wu wei&lt;/i&gt;. If  Things keep Falling Apart apace there will be no need for major action; what action do the crows take, before feeding gaily on the carcass of the brown bear?

Did you know that if you deliver a tiny tap to a very large building a wave propagates through the building and returns to the source; and if you tap again at that precise moment the wave goes out again with more energy, again and again, until the whole building sways as if in an earthquake? And all from the most gentle of taps.

The super-intelligent and comely spokesmodel is gentle humor, but if things develop as we have foreseen then one fine day in the future Fox News is going to want to book a Neoreactionary; a women would leave most of the haters stuttering and incoherent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Dear Igitur, </p>
<p>Plans? Concrete or otherwise? No plan survives contact with the enemy. What&#8217;s needed now is <i>Wu wei</i>. If  Things keep Falling Apart apace there will be no need for major action; what action do the crows take, before feeding gaily on the carcass of the brown bear?</p>
<p>Did you know that if you deliver a tiny tap to a very large building a wave propagates through the building and returns to the source; and if you tap again at that precise moment the wave goes out again with more energy, again and again, until the whole building sways as if in an earthquake? And all from the most gentle of taps.</p>
<p>The super-intelligent and comely spokesmodel is gentle humor, but if things develop as we have foreseen then one fine day in the future Fox News is going to want to book a Neoreactionary; a women would leave most of the haters stuttering and incoherent.</p>
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