Sentences (#32)

… few things are as oppressive and intolerable as living under the yoke of a lie … (Skeletalized for purposes of extraction from its mainstream conservative context, but the whole article is insightful if read with a modicum of detachment.)

Even Trump skeptics (such as this blog) are finding it hard to deny that the phenomenon is a revolt against the Cathedral (defined approximately as “the yoke of a lie”). It’s a campaign against the media, and ‘correct opinion’ in general, with ordinary political antagonism as a very secondary feature. Does anybody seriously doubt that the media establishment understands, he’s running against us?

The romantic medievalism of much ‘NRx’ thought captures things of importance — one of which is the cultural value of a separation between State and Church, which is to say: the absence of politically-mandated correct opinion. Heretics were not political criminals before the onset of modernity. When the state becomes a church (‘the Cathedral’), political antagonism acquires religious intensity. That’s what is being seen today, whatever else one might think about it. At the climax of the democratic regime, politics necessarily becomes holy war. As the old saw goes: nobody said it was going to be pretty.

ADDED: The Cathedral has its own distinctive version of social contract theory: “There are people who already hold these views, and there used to be kind of an agreement between them and society that they wouldn’t speak these things in public.”

December 10, 2015admin 24 Comments »


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  • Sentences (#32) | Neoreactive Says:

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  • Mike Says:

    That last paragraph is a masterpiece of elucidation.


    NRx_N00B Reply:

    Indeed, it is, brilliance; the entirety of Outside In is like that. Here’s hoping Mr. Land doesn’t take this blog down anytime soon.


    Posted on December 10th, 2015 at 4:51 pm Reply | Quote
  • Bettega Says:

    Wheter the State can loose and bind
    In Heaven as well as on Earth:
    If it be wiser to kill mankind
    Before or after the birth-
    These are matters of high concern
    Where State-kept schoolmen are;
    But Holy State (we have lived to learn)
    Endeth in Holy War

    Rudyard Kipling, MacDonough’s Song


    Posted on December 10th, 2015 at 5:13 pm Reply | Quote
  • Orthodox Says:

    Vox posted this:

    “Restricting immigration, according to these Republicans, isn’t conservative because it requires government bureaucracies to interfere in labor markets. Immigration is like free trade and restricting it is like protectionism.”

    Trump broke the Narrative and forces the Outer Party to take a clear position on many issues that are suppressed, revealing the Outer Party position to be very close to the Inner Party position. Paul Ryan was a conservative darling 8 years ago, VP nominee in 2012 and now, for all we know, he might be face a tough primary challenger in 2016 over the immigration issue. What has been revealed is the GOP hasn’t been doing anything because they don’t agree with the base. The obstacle isn’t people like Obama so much as people like Ryan.


    Grotesque Body Reply:

    Never trust a man who listens to Rage Against The Machine and other white guilt commite music.


    Quint Essential Reply:

    What if you only listen ironically?


    Grotesque Body Reply:

    In every irony there is a grain of sincerity.

    Posted on December 10th, 2015 at 7:30 pm Reply | Quote
  • Sentences (#32) | Reaction Times Says:

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  • Aeroguy Says:

    “Heretics were not political criminals before the onset of modernity.” Disagree, it was the kings even more than the church which sought death for heretics, because of heretics disdain for authority, it meant a threat to their own. Church lead inquisitions were relatively soft on the heretics seeking to return stray sheep to the fold while king lead inquisitions were happy with executions. The religious and political have always been intertwined, separation of church and state, like rule by the people, is a myth. Truth and power are doomed to antagonize each other, they can cooperate for a time, but like world peace, it can never last for long.


    admin Reply:

    Before the age of Absolute Monarchy — which, of course, arrived comparatively late in the West — kings were weak. Grind away that basic historical fact too enthusiastically, and you’re left struggling to find the specific difference that enabled self-propelling (i.e. capitalistic) growth to take off in Europe, rather than in China, or the world of Islam.


    freihals Reply:

    Indeed, struggle. I’ve watched Gary North struggle with an answer to your insightful observation–why the West. In his mind, those that once understand why hold key advantages. I’m betting the high gravity of what you just wrote goes unnoticed by almost all of the great unwashed masses. And yet, an accurate( hell, or even approximate)understanding to your question allows those ahead of us to bypass repeating what we, here, are doomed to live through.


    Posted on December 10th, 2015 at 11:49 pm Reply | Quote
  • ryan Says:

    I think “The Cathedral” dislikes Trump for a very different reason.

    26 min in, Trump almost mentions the real holy war:

    Donald Trump Morning Joe Interview 12/8/2015

    Scarborough: What countries are sending money to ISIS? [unintelligible cross-chatter] Are you saying the Saudis are doing this?

    Trump: Of course they’re doing it, everybody knows that.

    Scarborough: Okay, any other countries?

    Trump: Uh, there are, but I’m not going to say it because I have a lot of relationships with people, but there are, and you know that, and everybody knows that, and nobody says it – nobody talks about it…

    Who is this mysterious country that Trump insists is sending “massive amounts of money to ISIS and to al Qaeda”, but that he refuses to name because he has “a lot of relationships with people”?

    “you have so-called people that you think are on our side, and they’re not reporting it, they’re not talking about it, and in some cases they’re involved with it. “


    D. Reply:

    There’s a Trump Towers in Istanbul, a Trump International Golf Club under construction in Dubai, a Trump Hotel and Tower in Baku, and Qatar Airways leases space in Manhattan’s Trump Tower.

    Or did you think Trump is stupid enough that he believes Israel is responsible for the Islamic State and Al Qaeda?


    ryan Reply:

    Trump is stupid enough to believe that he saw dancing Muslims in New Jersey cheering.


    ryan Reply:

    I would also recommend making a small research into which countries purchase the most ISIS oil

    D. Reply:

    Donald Trump recalls reading, seeing, or hearing news reports in the immediate aftermath of the September 11 attacks about Muslims in New Jersey celebrating, which in typical fashion he either misremembers, exaggerates, or conflates with the South Syrian Arabs who did openly dance in the streets. The Cathedral quickly realized these reports were injurious to its cause and put them down the memory hole, now disavowing them to such an extent that at least one journalist who reported it at the time has recanted and claims it never it happened. I’m not sure why you think someone is stupid for contradicting the Cathedral.

    As for oil from the Islamic State, it’s widely known that Turkey has profited by allowing transit for the oil through its territory, if not directly purchasing and reselling it. I don’t know the ultimate destinations for that oil, but given fungibility and a world market, the ultimate purchasers are largely irrelevant. As I noted above, Trump is invested in a Trump Towers development in Istanbul.

    vxxc2014 Reply:

    We are hollowed out by Treason in our Foreign Policy Community.

    It’s everyone who walks in the door with money, which is how China has my admittedly dull OPM files.


    Grotesque Body Reply:

    ‘Foreign policy’ is synonymous with treason.

    The only non-catastrophic foreign policy is no foreign policy.


    Posted on December 11th, 2015 at 1:40 am Reply | Quote
  • Mark Citadel Says:

    I actually just wrote a piece along these lines, that we have seen politics become religion, and this all stems from the dissolution of the religious institution as a pole of power within the society. This power does not disappear, it migrates, and finds itself in the hands of the media and the university professor. Instead of having actual Brahmins you end up with Social Justice Warriors in fancy dress.


    Erebus Reply:

    I agree completely.

    Frankly, I think it’s utterly obvious that religion — even when in the form of nonsensical folk-religion or dry Confucian custom — is necessary for the proper functioning of society. As Schopenhauer put it, mankind has metaphysical needs which absolutely demand satisfaction. And it seems that if men can’t put their faith in God or in the gods of their volk, and if they don’t have the requisite wisdom for more meaningful transcendentalism, then they’ll identify with, and put their most ardent faith in, the most abominable nonsense: Secular authority, appeals to arbitrary and ever-shifting codes of justice and ethics, “every man for himself” existentialist nihilism…

    …To put it very simply: We need new prophets.


    Mark Citadel Reply:

    Man is an inherently spiritual creature. If lacking for an object of worship, he will replace it with something else. There are four spheres of authority in the organic lives of men. The autonomous authority of the self, the heteronomic authority of the sovereign, the patronomic authority of the father, and the theonomic authority of God. The last is by far the most expansive in its claims over the hearts of man, for it has reach beyond individual expiration. This authority-channel between the divine and man has always been mediated by a priestly caste adhering to a static dogma, a text of law. Today, the texts have been thrown out and the law has been replaced by a metastasizing rather than static dogma, that of Progress. With this new faux dogma comes a new type of priest to pull at the hearts of men.

    The state has taken on power in the real sense (the judicial authority of the church has been snatched and given to the ‘police’), but the most powerful element of the theonomic influence has actually been co-opted by mass media and academia (essentially the ‘Cathedral’). For political ends, not theological ends, they propagate the dogmas of the Cult of Progress and mold the collective conscience.

    We have unplugged from the sacred, and what have we sat in its stead on the Throne of God? All we can verify, all we can see with the naked eye, all that can be tested by a crude ‘science’, but ever aware that the generations of tomorrow will discount our tests because our methods were too sexist, and then those new tests will be invalidated by the next generation who will claim the write-up was racially biased. To paraphrase De Maistre, in removing the unquestionable mystical religious core of the Occidental man, we have subjected his very identity to constant tumultuous revolution! He will never stand on solid ground again. Modern politics is the religion that shapes him, and what is Modern politics but the inescapable bloody war of mindless men, grasping with their greedy hands, and dreaming of utopia with their fevered minds?


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