Sentences (#55)

Collapse traps people:

You have to know when to leave.

Most don’t, and won’t, of course.

(Treat this as a promissory note on an installment of provocative skepticism viz the ‘eventually its necessary to stand and fight, or even take things back’ proposition that haunts NRx like a chain-rattling ghost, now more than ever, in the shadow of the impending Trumpenreich. Zombie-fighting-types can assume that the tacit XS stance (“flee you fools”) is at least as infuriating as they would expect it to be.)

May 24, 2016admin 17 Comments »
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  • William M Briggs Says:

    There is a tide in the affairs of men…that should be taken to float your boat far, far away.

    I’m now wondering if potatoes would grow in the ex-gulags Russia is giving away.

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  • Sentences (#55) | Neoreactive Says:

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  • smg Says:

    It’s important to me to own real estate in a state (USA) that’s economically responsible. There are so few, my options are limited.

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  • Brett Stevens Says:

    ‘eventually its necessary to stand and fight, or even take things back’

    Eventually?

    Without survival of an ethnic group, people have nothing other than themselves. This is as alienating as being a citizen under Communism.

    This is one area where the Alternative Right seems to understand things more clearly: governments are not nations. They can fall, and those who support them will then depart.

    Societies can be reborn. Individuals, by themselves, even good ones, are not able to do much.

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    Mike in Boston Reply:

    Healthy societies can survive even when their founding ethnic group is assimilated. Late Byzantine Greeks certainly saw themselves as the same people as the Greeks of Alexander’s time, and kept the same culture going, but there is a case to be made that they didn’t share all that much DNA with their cultural forbears.

    It’s noteworthy that, in spite of all his denials, the perceptive chronicler of America Tom Wolfe seems to be making the same point on the last page of his (hugely entertaining) Back to Blood.

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    Brett Stevens Reply:

    Wolfe has been onto this issue since the 1960s. Did you read “Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers”? What’s great about Black to Blood (which I also enjoyed) is that it takes a scientific analysis of modern myths and uses it to eliminate belief in just about everything, leaving tribe. You might view it as informed by Sam Huntington’s The Clash of Civilizations because it would be anomalous for it not to be…

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    admin Reply:

    Survival of an ethnic group =/= territorial continuity. If it did, existence of WASPs would still depend upon the fate of England.

    More importantly, off-shoot populations, selected by the frontier, are superior to inert root populations (which degenerate leftwards in accordance with an iron law of demographic history). The Greeks never came back, nor did the Romans. Those Greeks who threw in their lot with the Romans are the model.

    Individuals are — on their own — a genetic dead end (of course). Comparative individualism, however, is the one reliable marker of non-decadence in a population. The whole cannot be salvaged, ever. Speciation occurs at the edges.

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    Brett Stevens Reply:

    Survival of an ethnic group =/= territorial continuity.

    No, but it requires the group be concentrated in a territory.

    More importantly, off-shoot populations, selected by the frontier, are superior to inert root populations

    I do not trust any rote method by itself. There are individuals of quality… and then the rest. Selecting the good and tossing the rest always works. I do not think this can be done by external, mechanical means such as forcing a society to collapse, although we appear to be trying it.

    The Greeks went out like Brazil did. Their problem was not so much genetics, at first, but bad leadership culminating in mob rule and diversity, at which point the organic civilization collapsed. Now they’re Turkic half-breeds in a nearly third world country, similar to what happened to Brazil.

    As Plato reminds us, this condition is easily fixed: stop doing the popular but crazy things and start doing the things that work.

    It seems to me that there is a shift toward realism now that Leftism has peaked. This creates opportunity to fix what is otherwise a global problem. When the Crowd is in control, it seeks out those who do not obey and smashes them down.

    Comparative individualism, however, is the one reliable marker of non-decadence in a population.

    That is interesting, but I cannot agree there either. Independent choice, perhaps; we might call that intraversion. But individualism is a form of narcissism and shows decadence if anything.

    The whole cannot be salvaged, ever.

    An excellent point and I wholeheartedly agree. Those who understand organic civilization never want to “save everyone” because they are inherently Darwinists. They want to keep the good people and toss the rest. Never a bad idea.

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  • SVErshov Says:

    .” … In a crowded hall, exit doors are small.”
    Sell everything ahead of stock market crash, say RBS economists

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jan/12/sell-everything-ahead-of-stock-market-crash-say-rbs-economists

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  • fnn Says:

    It becomes another funny Slavoj Žižek story when Žižek speaks before a group of cryptocalvinists in NYC:
    https://www.rt.com/usa/344148-zizek-left-forum-refugees/

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  • grey enlightenment Says:

    @SVErshov the evidence, however, suggests market timing is a fool’s errand

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    SVErshov Reply:

    people usually need time to recognise and acknowledged the trend, timing is not so important here, Soros’s companies buying gold for 20 years.

    maybe there is some increasing in trend to expoit colapse meme by Left.
    my evaluation criterias of any such colapse analysis very simple one.

    any analysis of colapse (which I’ve seen recently) based on analysis of dynamics, and nobody cares from where these dynamics originated. they just assume that certain type of dynamics lead to colapse.

    here is one example of most idiotic and politicised use of system dynamics funded by NASA. I’ve seen original paper, there is some heavy bending of mathematical conclusions to fit into political definitions.

    Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for ‘irreversible collapse’?
    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/mar/14/nasa-civilisation-irreversible-collapse-study-scientists

    imho, structural changes of civilisation is what lead to colapse. dynamics is secondary, analysis of dynamics usually will not help to understand how to increase system inertia and prevent structural changes.

    perhaps same aproach can be used to distinguish left from right. any analysis based on dynamics is leftist, as dynamics is universal by definition. analysis based on inertia perhaps the area where Right can build up.

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  • eucivicism Says:

    Don’t see the conflict here (though the emotional triggering of alt-righters vis-a-vis Nrx is clearly there [traitors!]).

    Y’all are gonna come back to the various ethno-states as investors and traders anyway (Nrx, in any its various spielarten, doesn’t seem to be much of grudge-holding ideology). Cheers

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  • D. Says:

    It’s impossible to leave unless there’s somewhere to exit to. What happens as more and more territory is ceded to the forces of entropy?

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    admin Reply:

    That problem is the driver of all practical Neocameral thought. Adapting the world to Exit Options means breaking it up. It’s the main geopolitical theme of the 21st century.

    Here’s what the business model says about it: Basis of the corporate ecology is the culling of dysfunctional companies (and recycling of their resources). How then to apply this same fundamental dynamic to national corporations (‘States’)?
    (1) Fragment them into killable pieces.
    (2) Formalize their resources (‘primary property’) through Neocameral accountancy (which is to all states, not merely to Neocameral ones.
    (3) Build extraterritorial (‘seastead’) micro-states to intensify Exit pressure.
    (4) Encourage the emergence of ‘forcing functions’ to accelerate the deterritorialization of capital (into the Antarctic, the seabed, and off-planet).
    (5) Intensify the legitimation crisis of the existing international state system as its alternative comes online.
    (6) Promote the development of Exit technologies (especially decentralized Internet-based property ledgers).

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    Brett Stevens Reply:

    Adapting the world to Exit Options means breaking it up.

    Trust-busting 2.0. The problem we face is a decentralized one, so attacking centralized resources may not be a useful approach.

    However:

    Intensify the legitimation crisis of the existing international state system as its alternative comes online.

    This is, to my mind, what all of Neoreaction is about: demonstrate workable alternatives so that we escape the sense of inevitability to liberal democracy.

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  • Young thug Says:

    These people are cowards, but so are you (with love)

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