Sentences (#72)


One of the paradoxes — there are so many — of conservative thought over the last decade at least is the unwillingness even to entertain the possibility that America and the West are on a trajectory toward something very bad.

Some elaboration:

If conservatives are right about the importance of virtue, morality, religious faith, stability, character and so on in the individual; if they are right about sexual morality or what came to be termed “family values”; if they are right about the importance of education to inculcate good character and to teach the fundamentals that have defined knowledge in the West for millennia; if they are right about societal norms and public order; if they are right about the centrality of initiative, enterprise, industry, and thrift to a sound economy and a healthy society; if they are right about the soul-sapping effects of paternalistic Big Government and its cannibalization of civil society and religious institutions; if they are right about the necessity of a strong defense and prudent statesmanship in the international sphere — if they are right about the importance of all this to national health and even survival, then they must believe — mustn’t they? — that we are headed off a cliff.

September 8, 2016admin 69 Comments »
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  • Dark Reformation Says:

    Excellent analysis. Weak on offering actual solutions, and how to go about it. However, the hint of a “revolution” might be a wink wink.

    Is anyone in the game here been thinking about building Moldbug’s idea of an anti-versity? I would very much like to read anything anyone has written on the subject.


    (N) G. Eiríksson Reply:

    ‘Anti-versity’ meaning our own Academia? (Starts with a few guys discussing.)

    I´d say we are already doing that. A better name though, will have to be found. And standards to prevent sub-human tactics.


    Kwisatz Haderach Reply:

    “actual solutions”

    What’ a “solution” in this context? I’m presuming you mean a practical course of action that could reverse the decline of American society that was so eloquently described in the original essay.

    If so, asking for a solution is like keeping your dead wife’s shoes ready in cases she needs them when she comes home. It betrays the fact that you are in a weird, non-rational state of denial. There are no solutions. This is why none have been propounded. “The patient is dead. He died last week of a liver failure.” (Remember Moldbug? He wasn’t kidding when he wrote that.)

    There are many dimensions along which you can see that America is dead. I prefer to look at the number of residents on some form of government “assistance” or directly employed by the government.

    This Leviathan doesn’t die from your AR-15’s or your noble intentions. It dies from starvation, after it has eaten all the food that it can crane its neck to reach, and not a morsel sooner. The Leviathan can easily eat you in the foothills of Appalachia. It will casually devour you in the high country of Utah or the valleys of Michigan.

    It will eat you on a plane.
    It will eat you on a train.
    It will eat you in a box.
    It will eat you with a fox.
    It will eat you on a lake.
    It will eat your whole think-tank.
    Your children and your children’s friends
    will make but a pallet cleanse.
    Your wife a rosé cordial,
    and then it rounds off with your soul.

    The really sad part is that there is no remaining shining city on a hill. Only now, at the bitter end, can we remnants appreciate what America used to represent before we were born.

    Practical action = Exit plan.


    (N) G. Eiríksson Reply:

    It was.
    It became a value.
    The value became a concept.
    The concept became a political slogan.
    The political slogan became an ideal.
    The ideal became individual, collective and universal.
    The universal ideal became law.
    The collectivist ideal became a social motto.
    The individual ideal became a belief.
    As law, as a social motto, and as a belief, it developed into a revolutionary weapon.
    Croce characterised it as a « religion ».
    J. Evola called it a « fetishism ».

    It is, as if, no longer more than a word, neurotically parroted by the masses and cantillated on all the media 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. Its pathological character cannot be doubted.

    ▬ B. Cariou.


    (N) G. Eiríksson Reply:

    it is ‘freedom’ that mr. Cariou refers to here.

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  • ossipago Says:

    The link to the source here seems to be dead.


    ossipago Reply:

    Nevermind. Seems to have fixed itself now.


    Posted on September 8th, 2016 at 3:14 pm Reply | Quote
  • Dark Reformation Says:

    The following goes well with the above. It offers a more geopolitical perspective:


    Posted on September 8th, 2016 at 3:18 pm Reply | Quote
  • Alrenous Says:

    then they must believe — mustn’t they?
    That would require logical thought. A implies B, I believe A, therefore I believe B.

    This is far too many steps. What percentage, even taking only Hajnals, do you think will follow this chain without being coerced to? 3%? 1%? Conservatism is not run by the remnant. (Is ‘remnant’ from Nietzche?)

    The overwhelming majority cannot think logically on purpose, only unconsciously.


    D. Reply:

    Albert Jay Nock, the grandfather of America’s conservative movement and author of, among other works, Memoirs of a Superfluous Man and Our Enemy the State, grew disdainful of the masses and, though increasingly pessimistic, hoped for the establishment of a Remnant of intelligent people who would coalesce in order to save themselves and civilization. Although Nock died in 1945, his concept of the Remnant was the organizing principle for many conservative ventures in the early post-war era. Sadly, the vast majority of Americans calling themselves “conservative” today have little, if any, intellectual connection to Nock.


    Alrenous Reply:

    Well I was way off.



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  • Brett Stevens Says:

    The conservatives I grew up around did believe this, which made all of us nervous or cynical but they had a good point: each year, basic things in life are worse than the year before, and there is no counter-action mechanism. Therefore, we’re going out like Rome and Athens. They were a real riot at parties.


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  • NRK Says:

    Now, if conservatives were the kind of people who think up theories about the root causes of society’s problems and methoda to attack these issues, they’d be radical conservatives, not a paradox, but a downright oxymoron.
    If anything, this refusal of radicalism is the one thing that justifies their existence vis a vis the endless disastrous failures of radicals of any stripe, even when it always has turned into impotence in the event of crisis.
    In any case, they’re performing a-politicality better than anyone who claims to have a plan to save civilization.


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  • grey enlightenment Says:

    ending birthright citizenship..seems so obvious


    Posted on September 8th, 2016 at 8:08 pm Reply | Quote
  • (N) G. Eiríksson Says:

    How do the weaboos like half-Indian Miss Japan?


    Erebus Reply:

    “Miss Universe Japan” was half-black last year. The Japanese right wing’s internet division was savage in its criticism, which received global media attention, from the usual suspects.

    Savage criticism was, however, wholly justified. This half-black Miss Japan told the AFP: “I want to start a revolution. I can’t change things overnight but in 100-200 years there will be very few pure Japanese left, so we have to start changing the way we think.”

    “We”? In any case, that’s insane. More than that, it’s obviously false.

    Predictably enough, given the media attention they received last year, pageant organizers doubled down this year. And also, predictably enough, the person responsible for these pageants is not Japanese at all, but a globalist French Jew by the name of Inés Ligron, who writes: “the more you mix bloods, more beautiful you can get!”

    The pageants are clearly nothing more than an exercise in cheap “multiculturalism is good” virtue signalling. I almost feel sorry for the idiot girls who participated.


    (N) G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Jesus, I had thought these were just accidents of the zeitgeist — but no there´s specifically a Jew who´s the director.

    This reminds me further to re-read Evola on the anti-race.


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  • Dale Rooster Says:

    Alfred Jay Nock, I believe. I’ve never understood conservatism…until I read Moldbug. The only (American) conservative politicians I cared for in my lifetime were Ron Paul and Barry Goldwater.


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  • John Hannon Says:

    Air China in trouble for noticing something about London –


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  • S.C. Hickman Says:

    In 1734 Charles-Louis le Secondat, Baron de La Brède et de Montesquieu, published his Considérations sur les causes de la grandeur des Romains et de leur décadence. Montesquieu’s work was rightly acclaimed as a bold adventure of the intellect, and the case which he put forward was instantly enshrined as a modern myth. Rome, it was henceforth accepted, had fallen because all empires must fall, and the map of that fall – which was also to serve as an explanation – was to be found in its décadence: in the simultaneous rotting of its cultural life and its military might.

    Of course in our late age intellectuals no longer believe in decline or the grand narratives that see the world collapsing due to its own enervating cultural deficit and overreach. Yet, as both the UK and the U.S.A. enter – what shall we term it, their moment of decision? What is it that these two countries are truly facing in this time if not the end of their neoliberal empire dreams of conquest? Is not all this hullabaloo of globalism – after all, collapsing before our very eyes, a grand finale to a decadent civilization on its last legs. But where is our Nero prepared to watch the City burn, to play his fiddle while the global house that money built falls into ruins, burns up the remaining resources of the planet; watches on as the pole melt and the seas rise, and the fated cities of light fall below the rising waves? Does one hear the echo, “Après nous, le déluge!” as Louis XV was widely misreported to have said?

    Rousseau argued that men were naturally good, but that their goodness had been warped and corrupted by civilized life. Who believes that in our time? With ISIL at the Gates, and so many corruptions of governent and corporate and banking institutions… what comes next? Does anyone read the Divine Marquee? Sade argued that just as the protestations of the godly were false and stupid, so too were Rousseauesque pleas on behalf of Natural Virtue; it was plain to anyone who cared to inspect the evidence that Nature had not an atom of in built virtue, and must sensibly be reckoned the enemy of mankind, more unreasonably oppressive than any mere political tyranny.

    Maybe its time to let Sade return…. Dominance is the right of the strong. Against Christ and Rousseau, Sade says benevolence and “what fools call humaneness” have “nothing to do with Nature” but are “the fruit of civilization and fear.” The founder of Christianity was “some feeble individual,” “some puny wretch.” Sade dismisses Christian charity and Rousseau’s equality and fraternity as sentimental delusions. There are no social or moral obligations for the philosopher: “He is alone in the universe.” Mabye, just maybe, the truth is: We’re all alone in this bung hole… so who you going to call now?


    Aristocles Invictvs Reply:

    Cthulu gazes…


    Alex Reply:

    the Divine Marquee

    Big-tent nihilism.


    (N) G. Eiríksson Reply:

    “things come full circle, the revolution began in France, it will end in France”

    this is not where it begins nor where it ends.

    countless cities and civilizations have fallen in his reaping of the fields with his scythe; the name of france is but a speck of dust on a fragment of a racing thought in his infinite mind.

    the revolution ends where it begins, true, but it begun not with the second vatican council, nor did it begin in france. not in germany with protestantism, nor with guelphism, not in the falll of constantinople, not in the burning of alexandria, not in the disappearance of the original roman families and thus not in the disappearance of true and veracious rome, not in the democratization and denordification of ancient greece, not even in the degeneration of the understanding of the most archaic doctrines of the ancient indians, not in the fall of atlantis nor in the depravity of the antediluvians that caused the flood.

    it begins superborealis. in ultima thule; in the primarchs desire and sadomasochistic lust.

    — Thereafter rose Desire in the beginning, Desire, the primal seed and germ of Spirit.

    Rg.Veda, CXXIX. Creation.


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  • John Hannon Says:

    “Only a god can save us.” – Martin Heidegger

    But what sort of god can save atheists? A Swedish fairy explains –

    No mention of Gnon however.


    (N) G. Eiríksson Reply:

    alien jesus


    John Hannon Reply:

    shroom jesus


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  • Darth Catalyst Says:

    @S.C. Hickman yes, Sade is the answer–I do recall an undergraduate course I was in, a Sade-Nietzsche seminar. Somehow I sensed that his view of the world, of metaphysics and nature, held something of a solution to the bind that the Enlightenment has put us in.


    Dick Wagner Reply:

    Imagine if we started applying Sade’s policy to the immigration situation: “The evil I do others makes me happy, as God is rendered happy by the evil he does me.” This looks twisted but I think it’s actually a higher compassion, or true compassion in contrast to pity, that actively seeks to put people through suffering so that they can grow from it. Though: it’s no coincidence that “sadism” has emerged from his name, which means to value suffering in itself rather than for its alchemical effects.


    Anonymous Reply:

    True sadism is degenerate, especially when it speaks some heretical, self victimizing shit about God to justify itself. Pretty common nowadays.

    Drugged, crazy caged animals. Sad and masturbatory.

    They should be tortured and publicly executed for ritualistic alchemical purposes.


    (N) G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Sadism is grievance made flesh.

    S.C. Hickman Reply:

    Think of it: All the great Criminals of Literature – from Iago, Hamlet, Milton’s Satan, to Vautrin in Balzac, to the Judge in Mccarthy’s Blood Meridian have been creatures of unbounded energy – the Great Vitalists who lived beyond the Law, beyond the social norms; yet, part and partial of that vast and seething “thermospasm” that admin speaks of his works, creatures who know only the Law that there is no Law. I’ve always hated the word conservative: What are you conserving? I say forget tradition, make your own tradition? Live as if this was the first and only day of your existence. Exit? What do we who are beyond the Law need of exits? So what, they kill you? You die alone anyway, so be it… impersonal, alive, energetic… you move…


    S.C. Hickman Reply:

    I should have said “unbounded energy and intelligence”…


    (N) G. Eiríksson Reply:

    >Think of it: All the great Faggots of Literature


    Dick Wagner Reply:

    Order precedes Chaos

    S.C. Hickman Reply:

    @(N) G. Eiríksson What? You have a preference for boys? My, my… be careful of your lip service.

    admin Reply:

    Come on, don’t be a troll. There’s zero chance this leads to an interesting conversation.

    S.C. Hickman Reply:

    @admin There is no passion in nature so demoniacally impatient, as that of him who, shuddering upon the edge of a precipice of perversity, thus meditates a plunge into stupidity. I, Sir, have been well reprimanded. Apologies, all around!

    (N) G. Eiríksson Reply:

    I bear no ill will towards you mr. Hickman, I don´t know what got you riled up against me to begin with (some days ago).

    >Live as if this was the first and only day of your existence

    Do you do this?


    S.C. Hickman Reply:

    There being no “me” here to do it this thing within that seems more a multiplicity than subject enters the day like a rabid dog, predatorially and humorously. But, yea, I can do nothing else since each day presents a new set of illusions…

    (N) G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Are they all equally illusory?

    S.C. Hickman Reply:


    I think George Carlin sums it up nicely: “My dark comedy, my grotesque humor is about being very dissatisfied with my fellow humans and with the people in this country. I bash them with my grievances. Basically I think the human species is a failed species. I mean here we are, we have too many choices, to many gifts – but the one gift we all have but use very little of is our intelligence. There you go, I said it: we’re all idiots with pocketbooks full of dreams, and not a god dammed one us has the horsesense of a moron.”

    (N) G. Eiríksson Reply:

    I agree with this, except what I think makes us a failed species is ca. the half of us which pulls the other down so no only a few can escape the crab bucket.

    I religiously await a final solution to this dilemma.

    And it ain´t the Jews I blame.

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  • Worm Says:

    We met in a rubbish dump. In Naples…. my hometown.

    Unlike any other, and yet they are all alike, these rubbish dumps.

    She told me she was from Africa. That she’d followed the Nigerians, who followed the Malians, who followed the Gambians, etc…millions of them….tens of millions….and billions more where they came from….

    Said they’d all been invited here by something she called “the Jewry” (Never heard of it, but I think that’s what she called them) And they were told by “Jewry” to breed with natives

    Well, I don’t know what she was doing there.  I was limply poking about in the garbage saying probably, for at that age I must still have been capable of general ideas. This is life.  

    She had no time to lose, I had nothing to lose.

    I was a homeless Italian. She had a dainty flat, no, not dainty, it made you want to lie down in a corner and never get up again. I liked it.  

    It was full of dainty furniture, under our desperate strokes the couch moved forward on its castors, the whole place fell about our ears, it was pandemonium.

     Our commerce was not without tenderness, with trembling hands she cut my toe-nails and I rubbed her rump with winter cream.  This idyll was of short duration.  

    Poor Yewande, I hastened her end perhaps.  Anyway it was she who started it, in the rubbish dump, when she laid her hand upon my fly.  More precisely, I was bent double over a heap of muck, in the hope of finding something to disgust me for ever with eating, when she, undertaking me from behind, thrust her stick between my legs and began to titillate my privates.

     She gave me money after each session. Said the money came from the Jewry. Said they gave her this flat rent free and €2,000 a month (or nearly two years’ pay for the average worker in Mali) …..And all she had to do was breed with natives.

    To me who would have consented to know love, and probe it to the bottom, without charge.  

    But she was an idealist.  I would have preferred it seems to me an orifice less arid and roomy, that would have given me a higher opinion of love it seems to me.  However.  Twixt finger and thumb ’tis heaven in comparison.  

    But love is no doubt above such base contingencies.


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  • Worm Says:

    “Punishments are always proportionate to the crime, and crimes are always proportionate to the amount of knowledge possessed by the guilty one; the Flood presupposes extraordinary crimes, and these crimes presuppose knowledge infinitely greater than what we possess.”

    (These are Joseph de Maistre’s comments on the subject of original sin. )

    “Let us take note of the notion of a knowledge – crime relationship; is it not singularly represented by Sade’s thought, and especially by certain of his heroes? If knowledge ends by becoming a crime, what one calls crime must contain the key to knowledge. Then it is only by extending ever further the sphere of crime that the mind, arriving at these “extraordinary crimes,” will recuperate the lost knowledge, “knowledge infinitely greater than that which we possess.”

    (from notes on Pierre Klossowski’s “Sade, My Neighbor”)


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  • (N) G. Eiríksson Says:

    “The only salvation against chaos is form.”

    Weird. Zizek just made a very Evolian statement.

    “Form matters. When we are formally free, only then we become aware how limited this freedom actually is.”


    (N) G. Eiríksson Reply:

    I know it´s supposedly “cool” to be a “thought criminal” and say “chaos is good” and “order is not cool.” But that´s really an inversion of the words. ‘Order’ has the same root as ‘orka’ which means energy.

    See the relation ordiri “to begin to weave;” compare primordial.


    Dick Wagner Reply:

    Appeal to etymology is a chaotic order. You put the “lol” in philology.

    Bro, if orka means energy does that mean like orca whales are energiful? Whoa it’s a synchronicity. That’s why they have the name “killer” because killing is the highest form of energy. Dude.


    (N) G. Eiríksson Reply:

    your oedipalism is amusing.

    half of the time you make a move you make a parody of the right.

    ‘etymology’ and ‘philology’ were already in some instances inversions of themselves at nietzsche´s time. the ultra-bright man was kicked out of academia by virtual no bodies.

    (N) G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Interestingly the w-ord for ‘word’ in Icelandic is orð. It also means becoming. ‘Ver’ is in orkuver which means typically ‘power station’ (energy plant). Ver is the same as in vers. Indeed, veröld is world-age, or ‘universe’.

    Being and becoming are one.

    Dick Wagner Reply:

    We both make Nietzsche roll in his grave but I less.

    (N) G. Eiríksson Reply:

    That´s a very inane comment, I find. Too much ‘signifier’, too little info.

    There´s dozens of pages of obvious philology that are missed by the bodies of Leftist academia. After the Nazis everything to do with Indo-Europeans became quite taboo for many of the ‘towers’ of academia. Indoeuropean studies survived though, but we´re quite excluded from ‘history’. In too numerous instances it is taught like that the Indo-European peoples have, as it were, no relation or common roots.

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  • Dick Wagner Says:

    Happy Birthday Georges Bataille!

    “Terror unendingly renews with advancing age. Without end, it returns us to the beginning. The beginning that I glimpse on the edge of the grave is the pig in me which neither death nor insult can kill. Terror on the edge of the grave is divine and I sink into the terror whose child I am.”


    Dick Wagner Reply:

    Situations arise in which, wrongly or rightly, acts of cruelty, harming individuals, seem negligible in view of the misfortunes they are meant to avoid […] Today it is easy to see that the Soviets organizing production were replying in advance to a question of life and death. I do not mean to justify, but to understand; given that purpose, it seems superficial to me to dwell on horror […] The Russian world had to make up for the backwardness of czarist society and this was necessarily so painful, it demanded an effort so great, that the hard way – in every sense the most costly way – became its only solution.

    The Accursed Share


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  • Vltra Says:

    @Dick Wagner

    That has to be one of the most retarded observations Bataille made, and there are some solid observations in that book. The soviets killed almost all the freethinking people, and left all the murders/rapists/thieves who eventually founded the criminal enterprise that Russia is today. And why did they do that? Because they believed the idiotic Marxist trope that people are only criminals because of economic disparity. Soviet Utopianism was one big dysgenics program. What Bataille should of said is that they intentionally or unintentionally perpetuated and grew the backwardness to unspeakable levels.

    Bataille is often guilty of letting his own values get in the way in just the same way he criticizes others.


    Dick Wagner Reply:

    *Donald Trump voice* Ya know what, I try to throw a birthday party for Georges and this guy comes here and ruins it. How would you like it if I came to your house on your birthday and told you how you’re wrong, buddy?

    This quote is a bit more prescient, or it would be if the ethno-branch of the trichotomy hadn’t been lopped off, burned to ash, and forgotten:

    “The truth is that we hate terror and we readily attribute it to a reactionary politics. But the [USSR’s] agreement between nationalism and Marxism responded no less directly than rampant industrialization to a question of life and death: multitudes lacking conviction would not have been able to fight unanimously for the communist revolution. If the revolution had not linked its destiny to that of the nation, it would have had to consent to perish.”

    Without God and without Family where will tech-comms get the motivation to invent shiny new toys? The utopic Last Man vision of gleaming clockwork roboticization serves as a spur but with the aforementioned two included in the formula it would reach its end much more rapidly *nudge nudge*.


    (N) G. Eiríksson Reply:

    I asked in a recent thread, “About Communism, I wonder tho: if it would have ‘at all’ been possible to funnel Russia and China, or for them to arrive at all, so fast into Industrial Society without Communist mania?”

    It seems to me Bataille thinks not.

    what was the gain though? did it make the life of the average Russian better? it seems not, considering how many died because of bolshevism.

    did it make Europe better? on the contrary, it made europe a whole lot worse.


    (N) G. Eiríksson Reply:

    then there´s this:

    In a few words: there is no such thing as Soviet technology. Almost all — perhaps 90-95 percent — came directly or indirectly from the United States and its allies. In effect the United States and the NATO countries have built the Soviet Union. Its industrial and its military capabilities. This massive construction job has taken 50 years. Since the Revolution in 1917. It has been carried out through trade and the sale of plants, equipment and technical assistance.

    Sutton’s next three major published books (Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler and Wall Street and FDR) detailed Wall Street’s involvement in the Bolshevik Revolution to destroy Russia as an economic competitor and turn it into “a captive market and a technical colony to be exploited by a few high-powered American financiers and the corporations under their control” as well as its decisive contributions to the rise of Adolf Hitler and Franklin Delano Roosevelt, whose policies he assessed as being essentially the same “corporate socialism,” planned by the big corporations. Sutton concluded that it was all part of the economic power elites’ “long-range program of nurturing collectivism” and fostering “corporate socialism” in order to ensure “monopoly acquisition of wealth” because it “would fade away if it were exposed to the activity of a free market.”

    In his view, the only solution to prevent such abuse in the future was that “a majority of individuals declares or acts as if it wants nothing from government, declares it will look after its own welfare and interests” or, specifically, if “a majority finds the moral courage and the internal fortitude to reject the something-for-nothing con game and replace it by voluntary associations, voluntary communes, or local rule and decentralized societies.”

    In Sutton’s own words he was “persecuted but never prosecuted” for his research and subsequent publication of his findings.

    In the early 1980s, Sutton used a combination of public-domain information on Skull and Bones (such as Yale yearbooks) and previously unreleased documents sent to him by Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt whose father was a Skull and Bones member to speculate that it had played an important role in coordinating the political and economic relationships underlying the historical events Sutton wrote of in his previous works. He published his speculations as America’s Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones, which, according to Sutton, was his most important work.
    In his book Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era (New York: Viking Press;1970), Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote:

    For impressive evidence of Western participation in the early phase of Soviet economic growth, see Antony C. Sutton’s Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development: 1917–1930, which argues that ‘Soviet economic development for 1917–1930 was essentially dependent on Western technological aid’ (p.283), and that ‘at least 95 per cent of the industrial structure received this assistance.’ (p. 348).

    Professor Richard Pipes, of Harvard, said in his book, Survival Is Not Enough: Soviet Realities and America’s Future (Simon & Schuster;1984):

    In his three-volume detailed account of Soviet Purchases of Western Equipment and Technology… Sutton comes to conclusions that are uncomfortable for many businessmen and economists. For this reason his work tends to be either dismissed out of hand as ‘extreme’ or, more often, simply ignored. (p. 290)


    Vltra Reply:

    Much better. Happy belated birthday Georges.


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  • oh_really Says:

    This is only tangentially related, but Nick, may I request that you do a post on your thoughts on Bismarck and Realpolitik at some point?


    admin Reply:

    You mean the inventor-of-the-welfare-state Bismarck? He epitomizes the aristocratic-socialist alliance against capitalism that de Jouvenel bases his intellectual career on criticizing.


    Ahote Reply:

    Those bloody Prussians and abominable French unleashed untold misery upon the world!

    The Socialist impetus came from middle class intellectuals, eccentric industrialists (like Robert Owen and Engels) and impoverished noblemen with a feeling of resentment against the existing order.
    Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn, The Roots of “Anticapitalism”

    Impoverished noblemen indeed, some went beyond “Christian social” movements and became outright Communists. Was that jealousy? Resentment that they’re no longer the richest guys around? In practice it didn’t matter, they still had all the men with guns. Interesting contrast was Austria-Hungary. I would go so far to argue that Austria-Hungary was the only successful absolute monarchy. Under Bach’s absolutism, it pursued socially conservative, economically liberal policies; it had the higher economic growth than Germany, France, and Great Britain.


    oh_really Reply:

    You write this as if de Jouvenel is one of your mainstays? I find a single post of yours mentioning him, earlier this year.


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  • (N) G. Eiríksson Says:

    “Demons often kill their summoners and wear their skin.”—Scott Alexander on the Capitalism vs Western Civilization distinction


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  • (N) G. Eiríksson Says:

    Someone named Catterick just made this comment at Skadi Forum:

    Well maybe I’m not alt-right and don’t share priorities.

    Particularly, I repudiate anti-Islam as long as that religion is a voice of sanity. Please look at the state of Japan to understand why ethnic autism is as much a petty issue as anything else. Sure they aren’t multicultural, but so what if they abstain and abort themselves to self-extinction whilst worshipping a hostile race that nuked them. People talk as though racial purity is enough — it can’t be, or what exactly is preservationism for?

    Please understand I have no love of the Paki scum in Britain. My ire is for any useful idiot who thinks the modern Wesst worth endorsing. And I’m not a puritan on sex or drugs or the like: we simply reached a point where basic things like marriage are corrupted into something toxic.

    The present rise of nationalism in Europe is so misguided it fills me with apathy. I don’t like what I see, better Tehran than Washington.


    Cryptogenic Reply:

    Simple cure: go to Japan (stable birth rate), then Iran.


    (N) G. Eiríksson Reply:

    How does that cure anything?


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  • Worm Says:

    “Rachel née Rabinovitch / Tears at the grapes with murderous paws.

    She and the lady in the cape / Are suspect, thought to be in league;
    Therefore the man with heavy eyes / Declines the gambit, shows fatigue”

    T.S. Eliot (Sweeney among the Nightingales)


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