Sentences (#81)

Harsanyi:

… institutional media and white nationalists have formed a politically convenient symbiotic relationship.

Is this seriously deniable?

There’s a lot of conspiracy-theorizing underway right now, but it seems implausible, and superfluous. A spontaneous convergence of (perceived) interests is capable of explaining everything. In the end, though, someone is being played. In fact, it’s not only possible, but probable, that both sides of this particular arrangement are being played, and not primarily by each other.

November 23, 2016admin 25 Comments »
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  • tsk Says:

    I can’t make sense of both the first sentence and the last sentence of that paragraph being written in the same paragraph.

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    admin Reply:

    There are strategies without conspiracies. I don’t think Richard Spencer is a CIA agent. I do think he’s being seriously outplayed.

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    Posted on November 23rd, 2016 at 2:15 pm Reply | Quote
  • Artxell Knaphni Says:

    They might as well be your pawns or puppets; they are just repeating your blog.

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    Wagner Reply:

    Jonathan Bowden is a bigger influence than Land if I had to guess.

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    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    No, no, it’s Nick Land. I have a security detail of Romulan warbirds in Earth orbit that tell me these things.

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    Wagner Reply:

    lolol in mid-2013 he said “Whatever is going ‘to come’ out of the Dark Enlightenment, I for one hope that it has nothing to do with taking on responsibility for steering skinheads.” 2 bad 2 sad.

    Really though, the only way he’s steered them is simply by being a cathedral philosopher and flipping. That gave the bots on the ground types hope. Aside from that most of them with the attention span to scroll through half of one of his longer posts write him off as infected by Jews.

    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    Are you suggesting that ‘Admin’ has ‘flipped’? lol

    That guy, Spencer, reads this blog. It’s obvious. Yes, he’s a “bots on the ground” guy, who’s now getting attention. How do you think that’s going to play out? Is Neoreaction getting what it wants?

    Santa666 ;) Reply:

    Admin Is having more of an effect than you might expect. Look, even the weightlifters are getting Deleuzian with their memes: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cx6RE3JUcAEYH60?format=jpg&name=large

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    Wagner Reply:

    Dubious connection at best. If the EU is on its way toward creating an army against ~right-wing populists~ as Dark Reformation suggests Land is going to be one of the first ones on a plane to Guantanamo. But to say white nationalism stems from him is a post hoc fallacy – Land and white nationalists start from the truth of Hierarchy and proceed in contrary directions. White nationalists sublimate Demo-Equalism in that they are equal among themselves, whereas Land follows elitism thru to its end (neocameralism).

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    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    I think it’s a joke, Wagner, it’s funny, too.

    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    In fact, ‘Admin’ could even have written it, lol.

    Wagner Reply:

    “Heresies, hearing one of them pretending to be the only and unique catholic church, die laughing. From laughing and not only from suffering…” (Laruelle)

    Also: Stevens located a hidden tunnel in the rabbit hole last Summer come to find out:
    http://www.amerika.org/politics/why-neocameralism-is-demotism/

    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    @Wagner

    It’s funny, I used the notion of ‘subscribing’, in the 1980s-90s, in an ontological, but not really political, sense; though the political would be a corollary, I guess.
    The privileging of a consumerist model for political representation, & capital as its determinant, could, more likely, exacerbate corruption, crime, & ‘inefficiency’, than anything else. ‘Equality’ is necessarily & structurally presupposed in this consumerist model, at the level of the ‘consumer’. Having the iniquity variable of a potential hierarchical stabilisation depend on levels of capital alone, just exacerbates capital acquisition strategies to the point of total lawlessness.
    It’s not as if this scenario isn’t already there, to varying degrees.

    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    [@{Santa666 ;)]: “Admin Is having more of an effect than you might expect. Look, even the weightlifters are getting Deleuzian with their memes: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cx6RE3JUcAEYH60?format=jpg&name=large

    {AK}: ON THE MANLY AVOWAL OF NEOREACTIVE INFERIORITY

    What, exactly, is “becoming”?
    So, Life isn’t an abstraction?
    Not permeated, through & through, by ‘abstraction’.
    Does “becoming” not ‘withdraw’, in its journeys?
    The “ruthless confrontation with the world, unalloyed by false categories, ” sounds suspiciously driven by “an emotional manifestation of decadence characteristic of an individual unfit for an office tasked with making America great again”.
    The forward moving method, bereft of “false metaphysics”, is yet more of that same suspicious truth-drive.
    I guess, there’s absolutely no need to “elevate[s] everything small and” be “self-abnegating”, when the “will to truth” has been abnegated, you can lie quite happily to yourself & categorise all the unlikeable truths as conspiracies. That’s a ‘WINNING’ strategy. Then you can give lectures, as a ‘motivational speaker’.
    Your “perspective dominated by victories from here to the horizon of time and perhaps beyond” sounds suspiciously Hegelian, or Marxist. Very idealistic!

    Nietzsche’s Übermensch, as ‘Beyond-Man’, or ‘Over-Man’, is simply that which is above & beyond the Latinate-European conception of ‘Man’ altogether.
    This conception of ‘Man’ was always an impoverished regimentation, all of whose ‘ascensions’ carry the mark of this essential impoverishment. To forever trace the itinerary of a habitual lack, is the only consignment accessible to this narrow type of man, new or old. Here, in this circle of ‘victorious’ constrictions, resides his essential inferiority, which he always proves unfit to escape, at his own incessant insistence.

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  • Brett Stevens Says:

    Media has thrived off of the Nazis for years. March in Skokie with ten guys and get media coverage as if ten million invaded… but this corrupts the far-right because it creates a perverse incentive to be a wacky “Hollywood Nutzi” so that you get press, so that you get donations.

    We can see something similar in the Alt Right these days.

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    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    The ‘Dark Enlightenment’, of course, never complains about sordid things like money. It never proposes anything so ‘corrupt’ as an ‘economic reality’.

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    Kwisatz Haderach Reply:

    What?

    You can’t be serious right now. Are you serious right now?

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    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    Seriously sarcastic, Kwisatz Haderach.

    Cryptogenic Reply:

    When Spencer was mentioned on Rachael Maddow’s show he made a YouTube video thanking her for the free advertising. The media can’t help but be trolled and manipulated.

    The minute Hillary mentioned the alt-right in her speech it was time for trolling and heiling to get into the spotlight and then, instead of David Duke, it’s all J.Crew fashy hair and slick presentation. Clicks grow exponentially.

    This doesn’t seem very mysterious.

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    Posted on November 23rd, 2016 at 2:33 pm Reply | Quote
  • Chris P. Michael Says:

    Perhaps the same strategy that worked for Trump will work for Spencer?

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    Posted on November 23rd, 2016 at 6:33 pm Reply | Quote
  • Seth Largo Says:

    I don’t think it’s so complicated. The left needs a bad-guy to fight, and upon realizing that Trump is more or less behaving like a centrist, they needed to find a new bad guy. Spencer fits the bill. He gives their life meaning again.

    The general truth of this is demonstrated by the deep obtuseness in all the coverage of Spencer. Not once have I seen a journalist of twitter revolutionary ask even the most basic questions about motive: “Why does Spencer think Nazi antics will appeal to a president elect whose son-in-law and grandkids are Jewish?”

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    Posted on November 23rd, 2016 at 6:45 pm Reply | Quote
  • SanguineEmpiricist Says:

    The same type of conspiratorial thought that they accused our allies of is now coming from them.

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    Posted on November 24th, 2016 at 12:38 am Reply | Quote
  • Wagner Says:

    Paging a cyber-spider to spin a conspiracy out of this

    “In fact, it’s not only possible, but probable, that both sides of this particular arrangement are being played, and not primarily by each other.”

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    Wagner Reply:

    Is this interpretation not on the table?

    https://twitter.com/johnpodesta/status/788915131703058432

    That would make things real interesting i/r/t Dugin. Though Dugin is probably a hoi polloi simulacrum of the mastermind behind the scenes. Not to sound paranoid.

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    Posted on November 24th, 2016 at 3:04 am Reply | Quote
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