Sentences (#82)

Hawking:

This is inevitable, it is progress, but it is also socially destructive.

He’s not wrong about any part of that. Providential Protestantism is a bitch.

December 3, 2016admin 25 Comments »
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  • Brett Stevens Says:

    Progress or evolution? We eat the weak, and we are all strong; we eat the strong, and we are all weak. Which should it be?

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  • Erik Says:

    May I suggest an archived copy as the response to clickbait sites: http://archive.is/QCgXN

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    Erik Reply:

    Reading this article, I had the funny experience of looking for the content soon to come, once Hawking finished burnishing his credentials and laying out situational context and otherwise doing a lot of metaphorical throat-clearing, and then I was at the end.

    Did he actually say anything that wasn’t either waffle or falsehood? Example of the latter:

    “If communities and economies cannot cope with current levels of migration, we must do more to encourage global development, as that is the only way that the migratory millions will be persuaded to seek their future at home.”

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    Salger Reply:

    Or, we could exterminate the lot of them and spare the better specimens.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Nice try FBI

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Does Hawking even write himself? He might be dead for all we know, but his Brand used to promote certain ‘Truths’ in the Spectacle

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  • Salger Says:

    “Rising Inequality” is really a showing of how too much of the world is either obsolete or not productive enough. Even in the West, non-Asian minorities and lower income Whites eat way too much cash for all they do.

    All considered, the way forward would be a campaign to purge the world of IQs lower than 97. Whether through war or eugenics.

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    Dave Reply:

    97 ? Why not make it an even 100 ?

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    Wagner Reply:

    While we’re at it, 111 is just a cool number.

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    Salger Reply:

    https://staffanspersonalityblog.wordpress.com/2013/09/24/the-iq-breaking-point-how-civilized-society-is-maintained-or-lost/

    It’s the lowest you can go before the country starts sinking.

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  • jack arcalon Says:

    The elites sure can be arrogant, but that in itself in no way makes them wrong.
    Except when it comes to writing political prescriptions.

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  • collen ryan Says:

    Yes he is, he’s wrong about all of it. Its not progress its Progess, its not inevitable at all its intentional.They intentionally bred a couple billion niggers, radicalized them then opened up the west. Now they dare us to let them starve.Fuck them, ship the elites to Africa and the Mideast and put troops on the borders and machine gun anyone who comes within a mile. When they are all starved to death we can take south america, Give Russia the mid east, and share the African resources. But first let get enough of the large fauna safely out to repopulate.
    short of that we could release a sterilization virus or a neutron bomb.

    “To do that, we need to break down, not build up, barriers within and between nations. If we are to stand a chance of doing that, the world’s leaders need to acknowledge that they have failed and are failing the many. With resources increasingly concentrated in the hands of a few, we are going to have to learn to share far more than at present.

    With not only jobs but entire industries disappearing, we must help people to retrain for a new world and support them financially while they do so. If communities and economies cannot cope with current levels of migration, we must do more to encourage global development, as that is the only way that the migratory millions will be persuaded to seek their future at home.”

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    Wagner Reply:

    Collen do you ever think reality itself is a simulation? I’m just not sure any of this is real.

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    collen ryan Reply:

    Its Certainly surreal how far it has gone. But no, that strain of philosophy that raises those sorts of possibilities seem absurd to me.I grew up, I used to say, in a terrorist training camp.I learned early my life depended on discerning the real from the unreal, and what real and unreal stimuli the monsters reacted to.We are not crazy.This is existential,Crazymaking is their weapon of choice hold on to reality. Unlike a firefight its happening slowly, and we are lulled because the enormity of the solution is too hard to imagine so can not be compared to the timeframe. We think we have time but we are already way past the event horizon.

    I imagine you are young. Its been a very long time since we had a real war, war seems unreal to most,impossible. Its almost certainly the only solution, well war or extermination.These reactionaries and altrighters are larping. At some point the larp has to stop. WArplans have to be made. I promise you in your lifetime if you dont make plans for war you will wish you had.

    Trump may buy us time, if the EU goes under that will help too. There are still billions of semi humans unable to support themselves.Forget leftists, no one is prepared for the horror that is to come. Prepping is not ridiculous any more, if only moving to the northwest or somewhere and arming yourself and making friends. Get some land if you can and lots of ammo forget gold ammo ammo ammo learn to fight learn skills that will help you survive. I used to laugh at people giving advice like this.

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  • Erebus Says:

    Hawking: “we need to break down, not build up, barriers within and between nations.”

    Back in the 19th and early 20th centuries, when it was still possible to notice such things publicly, Jung described a condition which he called “racial infection” — the idea that merely living around Blacks and other primitive peoples was enough to degrade the social and sexual behaviors of white people. They become more superficially social, they speak and laugh more loudly, they become more licentious and sexually promiscuous, etc. All this, just from living in close proximity to “inferior man.” Jung goes on to note that the problem becomes much worse, is in fact terminal, when white folk are in the minority, becoming “a very serious mental and moral problem whenever a primitive race outnumbers the white man.”

    Is Jung wrong?

    We can erase the borders, open the floodgates, drown the productive nations of the world with hordes of inferior man, and watch as dysgenic catastrophe drags our civilization down to the dirt — or we can assert our superiority, leave them to their own Malthusian hell, and carry our civilization to new heights among the stars.

    Simply put: We are not them, our civilization is not their civilization, we owe them nothing, and we are generally as miscable as water and oil. Hawking is wrong; we should certainly need to build up those barriers. All of the alternatives are far worse.

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    Rasputin Reply:

    Great analysis, as usual. However, there may be a third way: an aggressive return to Neocolonialism.

    With the right will and governance, these countries can be made to be productive, even with inferior labour power. Particularly as the importance of biolabour diminishes further with technological development. There will still be a Great Dying, but the most intelligent / productive could be saved and incorporated into a new civilisation.

    The bitter irony is that progressives consider colonialism to be pure evil, but aggressively returning to it may be the only available path to salvation for many (though by no means all) of these afflicted people.

    In any event the worst thing to do would be open the floodgates.

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  • collen ryan Says:

    Ok Ill say it
    Hawking’s an idiot.

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  • Anon Says:

    If Hawking’s writeup isn’t evidence that if these people aren’t dragged kicking and screaming back into reality from their comfort zone then nothing is going to get through to them. Perhaps not even after, if the intense rationalization refugee victims display is anything to go by.

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  • SVErshov Says:

    not surprising, it is hard to persive ground reality through telescope.

    from my pov all nenecessary reformation already completed, and we are searching for a key, but it is already in the door. just turn it and open that door into future, withou us. whatever is worth saving already saved on hard disks.

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  • John Hannon Says:

    “we need to break down, not build up, barriers within and between nations.”

    Global unity – how old fashioned that now sounds. How out of date.
    Arising in the 60s, peaking in the 90s, and fading away after 2012, it was a seductive and alluring vision, incorporating such diverse elements as the Earth seen from space, the Gaia hypothesis, the World-Wide Web, the butterfly effect, the Global Brain concept, Live Aid, the fall of the Berlin Wall, rave culture, and boundary-dissolving drugs.
    Mainly on account of the latter, I completely fell for it at the time and miss it to this day. But the world moves on, a world where absolutely anything seems possible. Apart from global unity.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Global unity, aside from being a geological concept, is a metaphysical one.

    Yet we are united in trade, in Communication, in war,

    in cooperation, in collection, in creativity,

    in creorder—to cite Nitzan

    destruction

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    Axel Reply:

    Those of you who are calling for genocide need to go home and take your Prozac. This is why social acceptance of racism is ultimately as insane as lefty virtue signaling spirals. As Nietzsche said,
    “Madness is rare in individuals – but in groups, parties, nations, and ages it is the rule.”
    This group goes mad the absolute instant is seriously considers genocide. This is the line, no further. What is needed is Competent Secure Authority. On the eugenics front, UBI could be offered to the lower classes in exchange for voluntary submission to reproductive licencing. CRISPR then takes care of the rest.

    Good day.

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    collen ryan Reply:

    The “lower end” would would be disproportionately non white, you would be considered a racist nazi for suggesting such a thing.One is considered a racist nazi for considering meritocracy, One is considered a racist nazi for considering less then an ever increasingly generous affirmative action, or for prosecuting violent criminals.Western civilization is not culturally or biologically capable of defending against even a little diversity.
    The situation is existentially hopeless short of civil war. Civil war being so horrific and so unlikely, half the woke rail against it favoring even more unlikely fantasy solutions, while the other half rail for it no matter how horrible and unlikely.We are most likely doomed. But a war is historically the most commonsense solution, and ought to be encouraged. “Racism” as you call it, which I suppose you mean the non fraternal feelings towards the ‘other’ is a necessary component of gearing up for such a war.

    Your plan would be a good plan for a homogeneous nation of any ethnicity. Stretch our right tails with crispr and shorten our left tails with voluntary incentives for sterilization or invitro adoption etc. To do it on a multinational level would require a dictator who could with that power take care of 80% of the problem with more direct means like deportation apartheid etc.
    Competent secure authority could easily deport the 40-60 million illegals; This is already the setled law. Most of the rest are here fraudulently.

    Competent authority could have the court declare anchor babies illegal; which is actually the traditional interpretation of the law, and the international standard.This would be a retroactive stripping of citizenship of anchors and their progeny. This authority could examine the past two amnesties, and they would find all sorts of legal irregularities, both were a contract that only one side was held too.The limits on the other side were fraudulently ignored and the amnesties became blanket, and unconditional. Most of the grants were indeed fraudulent, But so was the entire process. The people have always been clear they did want this, They were lied to about the scale and the terms of every single immigration bill from 64 on wards.Everyone on both sides knows this, knows this invasion has been forced by an occupation shadow government against the “sovereign peoples” wishes. Make what you will of democracy.

    The actual deportation could be managed over years even with payouts to go orderly, after all most of them came from mexico next door who is not in a position economically, militarily, or morally to refuse to take back its citizens.

    Europe is the same on a much smaller scale these immigrants are almost all in on false pretenses collecting welfare and or furthering a jihad, Isalm has a long history of attacking Europe and for that reason alone muslims should be banned from europe. The colonial reparations meme is nonsense, We owe them nothing Colonialism was its own reward if they have squandered it and wish again to live under white authority they must petition from their own nations for us to undertake administration of their failed states in return for whatever they have to offer.

    There are billions more savages being born at rates close to 6 per woman. Under current trends and accepted norms they all have the right to come west and go on welfare and outvote whites. This only ends one of two ways. We began massive deportations which will likely take a war, It might take a war for the sane to take power and institute the policies, it might take a war to execute such policies. its almost certainly going to take a credible threat of a war either way at the least.

    The other way is we will slide into minority status, we will lose control not only of the majority of population but of all the levers of power our economic and military might in the world will evaporate the minorities will become frustrated they are not getting rich like whites were and will take it out on us.

    The madness of the crowd is not the “racist” reaction, its the cow like acquiescence.The attack is racial in nature the response is sensibly tribal. Because that is the dichotomy, because that is the most powerful organizing tool available,because that is the solution to the problems that came before the problem.Christianity and its bastard leftism served Europeans while the openness and selflessness accrued internally. It no longer serves. Europeans must become more tribal. Its odd how you get this when it comes to east Asians

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    —>”Europeans must become more tribal.”

    Do you see that anywhere happening, for instance here?

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  • Xoth Says:

    “We put Stephen Hawkings in Bradford town centre. Here’s what happened.”

    “New reality show ends in tragedy after only two episodes. Producer: Unfortunate, but Simon Schama signed on for next season”

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