Sentences (#88)

Frum:

When liberals insist that only fascists will defend borders, then voters will hire fascists to do the job liberals won’t do.

(No one’s listening, but historians will.)

The final words (already implicit) are also good: “Angela Merkel and Donald Trump may be temperamental opposites. They are also functional allies.”

January 31, 2017admin 24 Comments »
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  • Brett Stevens Says:

    The real question is whether we are going to stop trying to patch up liberal democracy, and simply shift to something more functional.

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    Posted on January 31st, 2017 at 1:05 pm Reply | Quote
  • Orthodox Says:

    His first paragraph is wrong. Had Carter instituted the Muslim ban and it remained in force, none of those attacks would have occurred, nor 9/11. Unless he’s trolling the left to point out every single “home grown terrorist” is a second generation Muslim, in which case, well played Mr. Frum, well played.

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    Posted on January 31st, 2017 at 2:19 pm Reply | Quote
  • Cryptogenic Says:

    Magic/tragic dirt theory? Check. Godwin’s Law? Check. Otherwise, another article of dipping a toe to see if it’s OK to consider options outside of Obama orthodoxy.

    It’s not nuance. It’s called walking it back.

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    Alrenous Reply:

    Your cynicism warms my heart, good sir, madam, or attack helicopter.

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    Posted on January 31st, 2017 at 3:10 pm Reply | Quote
  • Joseph Moroco Says:

    Mr. Frim is cute. Notice he flings the word facist while recognizing something needs to be done. Yet he has no suggestion.

    About what you’d expect from the guy who lumped Iran, Iraq and North Korea together as the Axis of Evil.

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    Erebus Reply:

    Cute isn’t the word I’d use. “Flippant,” “stupid,” and “dangerously incompetent” are much better fits. And it needs to be pointed out that Frum doesn’t have a single accomplishment to his credit; he’s never been right about anything, not once in his entire life; he’s a creature of think tanks, Neoconservatism, the National Review and The Atlantic… in other words, he’s wholly worthless and malignant.

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    Erebus Reply:

    I hit the “submit” button too quickly. The point I was trying to make is that it’s very well and good that he offers no policy suggestions. From him, none are wanted.

    …Indeed, if Frum offers any suggestions, on any matter whatsoever, one should probably hasten to do the opposite!

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    Posted on January 31st, 2017 at 5:50 pm Reply | Quote
  • smg Says:

    David Frum is absolute scum.

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    Posted on January 31st, 2017 at 9:29 pm Reply | Quote
  • Wagner Says:

    King Land, as your humble jester I suggest you make a conspiratorial post about your take on Dugin, his relation to Putin, and Putin’s relation to Trump.

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    Wagner Reply:

    Maybe not, my spine has been electrocuted to say that that might be a mistake for all of us.

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    Posted on February 1st, 2017 at 5:11 am Reply | Quote
  • AMK Says:

    On a related note;

    http://theanti-puritan.blogspot.com/2017/02/teleportation-and-other-r-selected.html

    About how the future of technology may make it worse.

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    Posted on February 1st, 2017 at 12:28 pm Reply | Quote
  • Thamus Says:

    Frum in cahoots with the Unimpenetrable Relata of Chloric Code is no surprise..

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    Posted on February 1st, 2017 at 1:47 pm Reply | Quote
  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    #88 Kek

    Uphold Leninism-Bannonism Thought

    https://twitter.com/morrowin33/status/826818767728603136

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    For the moment the liberal status quo stands because it is assumed. Because people like Laura Kennedy take it for granted. The Radical Left, who feed off the teat of Liberalism, while decrying the “fascist” state, have only one route open to them. That is to become more and more reactionary. More obnoxious. More toxic. In the end, they will bite the teat that feeds them. And liberalism will bleed red that day.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    It behoves me to say this is from http://21stcenturytribalism.blogspot.is/2017/01/punching-to-right-liberalism-and-left.html

    It is from https://twitter.com/JesterNrx

    alaf sal fena!

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    Posted on February 1st, 2017 at 4:10 pm Reply | Quote
  • Mark Citadel Says:

    “More toxic. In the end, they will bite the teat that feeds them.”

    Then the hand bites back and things get messy. I have a hunch this moment will converge with a number of other entropic maxima. Fireworks ready and waiting.

    By the way, Nick. I finally got around to moving over to WordPress, so feel free to amend the link under your Tradition sidebar when you get a moment. I won’t be using the old blog anymore. I can now be found at:

    http://citadelfoundations.wordpress.com

    All the best

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    Posted on February 1st, 2017 at 11:30 pm Reply | Quote
  • Rohme Giuliano Says:

    @Brett Stevens

    Authoritarian capitalism a la singapore?

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    Posted on February 1st, 2017 at 11:34 pm Reply | Quote
  • Ur-mail Says:

    But surely “liberal” actions and social programs cannot have illiberal consequences?!

    A staunch belief in acausality, or at least in their own inability to produce unintended consequences, seems at the core of liberal thought. Infallibility is a helluva drug.

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    Peter A. Taylor Reply:

    “Half of the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don’t mean to do harm. But the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.”

    — T.S. Eliot

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    Posted on February 2nd, 2017 at 12:22 am Reply | Quote
  • Rohme Giuliano Says:

    @G. Eiríksson

    From a rational choice perspective, both parties (Republicans & Democrats) want to win and, conditioned by such an objective, that makes them inherently reactionary; like a ballplayer to an opposing team member’s movements.

    Elective representation is a game that, when played, dissimulates itself as a game between insiders and moves outside, hypostatizing itself as the real struggle of political peoples.

    It all retains a religious dimension. The word vote, much like the word votive, comes from the word vow which means
    “solemn promise,” – “a promise to a god, solemn pledge, dedication; that which is promised; a wish, desire, longing, prayer,” – “solemn engagement to devote oneself to a religious order or life” ..

    As such, a vote is a prayer. To not vote is to practice a Eastern (apophatic) style of meditation over the catechism of political participation. Both merit the same conclusion: God is not listening.

    One need only to study the history of the Catholic church to understand all institutions.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    One need only to study the history of the Catholic church to understand all institutions.

    This is exactly true.

    Uphold all reactionary thought.

    The only salvation against chaos is form. Gulags for antifa. No Internet for feminists.

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    Posted on February 2nd, 2017 at 12:47 am Reply | Quote
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