Sentences (#9)

Elon Musk: “At this rate, the only thing that will be left will be robots …”

— Less a perfected sentence than an excuse to share the video. Musk earned his sentence-crafting chops last year, with this:

February 14, 2015admin 30 Comments »
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  • spandrell Says:

    What is he smoking? “The math is obvious”. No it isn’t; there’s plenty of people being born in Africa to replace all the declining fertility in all the world, including China.

    Does he mean that immigration from Africa will destroy Civilization? Huh?

    Funny how that comments are all about “losing population is no big deal”. Nobody’s making the logical argument. It’s too horrible to contemplate.

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    Hurlock Reply:

    Isn’t it pretty obvious what he is doing?
    He is trying to red-pill people on fertility, without at the same time alarming all the progs by saying that if Africa starts replacing the rest of the world population that would be as disastrous or even more so than total demographic collapse.

    “Does he mean that immigration from Africa will destroy Civilization? Huh?”
    Yes. Don’t forget that he is from South Africa himself.

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    R. Reply:

    What logical argument?

    The idea that once country starts to lose population through lowered fertility it’s going to inevitably die out because ‘no one has ever reversed negative pop growth’ is just plain idiotic.

    The world has too many people already. With embryo selection technology or something similar you could probably keep getting more talent than at the present at a third or less of present population..

    Hmm. So, if Musk is from South Africa, he has to have a realistic opinion on the chances of Africans. Has he never slipped out and said something un-PC?

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    Hattori Reply:

    Pretty sure pro-natalism advocacy will not take long to become politically incorrect. If only for what it implies between the lines.

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    Kgaard Reply:

    I don’t know about that. There’s change afoot among white yuppie women. They have seen the emotional carnage among the Sex in the City generation. The show “Girls” is like the horror flip-side of Sex in the City, one generation later.

    I think a key element that is rarely discussed is the extent to which the women now in their 40s got their advice on men, sex and marriage from their mothers — who were the last generation to play by the book, get married and have kids (in the 60s). They experienced a LOT of frustration and disappointment as the generation RIGHT behind them didn’t play by any of the same rules and had a lot more fun. So that earlier generation telegraphed that frustration to their daughters, who then eschewed marriage and went to work at Booz Allen etc etc.

    Now I think the zeitgeist is turning again. Or will soon. Motherhood is going to come back into vogue. Along with landing a decent man.

    That’s my hypothesis, at least.

    Also I agree with the commenter who said the world won’t need as many people to generate the same number of visionary/growth generator types. Everybody else is crossing the Ts and dotting the i’s for those people anyway.

    NRx_N00B Reply:

    Musk has this sense of pragmatism that comes with growing up in Suid-Afrika (a characteristic also evident in Ilana Mercer, Neill Blomkamp..etc)—growing up somewhat isolated from the utopian hippie-esque idealism that infected the rest-of-the-west in the 60’s.

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    R7 Rocket Reply:

    When Musk pushes forth his techno-religion, he is careful to dress it up in progressive garb. Much like the early christian sects did by dressing up in pagan garb in the Early Roman Empire.

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    Nyan Sandwich Reply:

    The point of the video, for us, is that he is conspicuously ignoring africa as a source of “people”.

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    Rasputin Reply:

    Surely it’s too soon for another Planet of the Apes remake?

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    NRx_N00B Reply:

    Absolutely, I agree with Hurlock, it’s obvious what Musk is doing. You can see parallel’s of Musk’s distinctly South African pragmatism and lessons in Mercer’s “Into the Cannibal’s Pot” or Blomkamp’s subversive “District 9”—even somewhat evident in Die Antwoord’s comical cynical/satirical rap/pop music. It comes across in some of Liddell’s writing as well.

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    E. Antony Gray (@RiverC) Reply:

    Exactly. There are people in Africa, but not the kind that wouldn’t be replaced by robots. Africa is not a source of people for the sort of society we wish to have – and indeed the sort of society that can make and maintain robots.

    It’s not impossible for them to become that, but it takes hundreds, if not thousands of years.

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    spandrell Reply:

    The question is: is anybody going to remind him?

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    admin Reply:

    (I’d have credited you for finding this video , but since I’m going to ruthlessly pillage the entire right side of Cyberspace today — at a scale utterly beyond decent recognition — I thought it might set a bad precedent.)

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    admin Reply:

    You really don’t think that he knows what he’s saying here?

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    spandrell Reply:

    Either he doesn’t, or he does, but is somehow confident that no prog is going to call him out on it.

    But why?

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  • grey enlightenment Says:

    IS it possible to make a machine that is or can become smarter than its creator?

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    R. Reply:

    If it’s possible for blind chance to produce such a machines of increasing intelligence, it’s definitely possible for intelligent designer to do so.

    Doesn’t mean it’s going to happen soon though.

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    Nyan Sandwich Reply:

    Yes.

    Evolution > mud

    Man > evolution

    Capitalist super AI economy > Man

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    Harold Reply:

    Take 1: I am smarter than my mother.

    Take 2: Is it possible to make a machine larger than its creator?

    Take 3: Sure, why not?

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    Izak Reply:

    I doubt it.

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    E. Antony Gray (@RiverC) Reply:

    Creator? no.
    Progenetor? Absolutely.

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  • John Says:

    Leftism is nihilism. Of course it is more concerned with executing babies in utero than cultivating virile stock.

    Fortunately this is a self correcting problem. As Musk says, impoverished, uneducated (un-Left-ified), religious fundies have no problem sexing their women and allowing the fetus to gestate.

    Let’s hope whitey finds religion sooner rather than later. I am hedging my bets with nightly refinement of my “Allahu Akhbar.” After all, there is something to be said for multiple wives. (Houellebecq put me on to this)

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    Exfernal Reply:

    And I thought that you worship Egyptian pantheon, with the eye of Horus and all….

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    anti-hermetic Reply:

    There are plenty of those kind embedded within muhammadism.

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  • Harold Says:

    While I am in an impish mood, here is a half-baked thought: Gnon is cold, Gnon is blind, Gnon cares not for hopes and dreams, Gnon has no remorse, Gnon has no humanity. Ironically, Gnon is the personificaton un-personness.

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    admin Reply:

    How ‘ironical’ is that really, though?

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    Harold Reply:

    Isn’t it ironic, don’t you think?
    I didn’t intend any disparagement of the concept. I just thought it was curious. The personification of un-personness lends it an air of sinister foreboding. By personification the un-personness is underscored.
    I suppose this is similar to the classic scariness of a humanoid robot or a zombie, of human form yet indifferent, implacable, without humanity.

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  • William Newman Says:

    Dan Lyke’s reply (not too far down on that twitter page) is pretty good.

    However, if you consider the entire situation, not just Musk’s twitterized formulation of one aspect of it, it remains disturbing for a reason not really addressed by Lyke. ‘Da mihi castitatem et continentiam, sed noli modo.’ It is one thing to think that the best outcome is for progress not to stall at 2015AD levels indefinitely, but to continue to a level that makes us hopelessly backward, not just as backward as our Bronze Age predecessors seem from our level, but perhaps as backward as our Jurassic predecessors seem from our level. It is another thing to be wholly comfortable with such progress taking place within our lifetimes, and ever since at least the late 1950s (‘Plenty of Room at the Bottom’ was 1959) we’ve been short of reasons to be confident that this won’t happen. (Though of course given that it has hung fire for 56 years since then, it follows that it will hang fire forever.:-)

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