So Sorry …

… to inflict this on people:

[OK, no need for anybody else to lose their lunch over this — I’m moving it under the fold]

SoSorry

But it’s important sometimes to be reminded just how far the human species can sink.

(via Clare Chen)

ADDED: Five and half years into the Obama Presidency, the problems plaguing black people (and their neighbors) haven’t disappeared, and in fact appear to be about the same as they’ve been on average over the last 40 years or so. […] This has created an ever greater demand for ever more detailed explanations for why this is all White People’s Fault. …

May 22, 2014admin 43 Comments »
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  • care less Says:

    wow. just wow.

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    Posted on May 22nd, 2014 at 5:37 pm Reply | Quote
  • Scharlach Says:

    No. It’s important to be reminded just how far white Europeans can sink. I’m willing to change my low opinion of what my race has become, but honestly, can anyone find pictures of anything else like this coming from Arabs, Japanese, etc?

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    Lesser Bull Reply:

    Filipino flagellation and crucifixion? Various Buddhist and Jainist and even Hindu ascetic practices? Muslim Ashura. Some of those might be in the ballpark. Religious self-castigation always looks odd to outsiders. In fact, you might even say that what’s pathetic about this particular religious ritual is how easy it is. You wear your grubbies and a t-shirt, put chains on for a little bit, and make a sad face. if that’s not penitence, I don’t know what it.

    But I do want to give this photo to the next white nationalist I meet.

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    admin Reply:

    Indeed.

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    j. ont. Reply:

    What we really need is a prayer wheel for white guilt. A white guilt apology wheel. Then we could skip the whole nasty chain business and—as Zizek says—even masturbate, while apologizing for our inherent wickedness.

    But then, I guess that’s tumblr, isn’t it?

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    Scharlach Reply:

    Big difference between flagellation before God or the Uknown and ethnic self-flagellation. The former is a universal impulse; the latter is, I repeat, unless I can be proven wrong, solely the domain of white Europeans.

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    Handle Reply:

    I’m with Scharlach on this one. It may be merely contingent on the historical path that led European nations to global dominance, but who else behaves in precisely this way?

    So, you don’t see the present day Mongolians getting all weepy in front of the billion descendants of all the people their ancestors subjugated / nearly exterminated. They thing Genghis Khan is awesome. Then again, no one cares about Mongolia anymore except as one giant mining operations with some yak butter tea on the side. Almost all of their exports are coal, copper, and iron ore which almost all go to China.

    What about Turks and Armenians or anybody who pissed off the Sultan in the Ottoman empire? Ha! If, “Well you know, they really had it coming,” isn’t in the first three sentences of the response, you are dealing with one Turk out of a thousand. But there are no more Ottomans.

    I’ve never seen a Russian get apologetic about Siberians or Central Asias, or Chinese about Tibetans, or Arabs and the Caliphate.

    Is there one other example?

    fotrkd Reply:

    @Scharlach and Handle

    Just to narrow this further, is there a non-American example? No doubt you can find a crazy Frenchman, but – and this may not be popular – this may well be an American cultural-historical rather than ethnic problem. The colonial powers just don’t talk about it on anywhere near the same scale.

    fotrkd Reply:

    Though, thinking about it… there was a plan to line Hadrian’s Wall with English people shouting ‘don’t go!’ at the Scots regarding Independence… don’t know if that’s happened or not. And it’s not the same thing or anything, but there’s a similar twisted irony to it all…

    Lesser Bull Reply:

    There are Germans who cringe like this about the Nazis, Scandis who do it about sexism or racism or something, and I don’t specifically know that Jose Bergoglio has apologized for something that had little to do with him or his church, but dollars to donuts I bet that he has.

    fotrkd Reply:

    @Lesser Bull

    Cringing or apologising is different than the image though. And WWII had an instantaneously more devastating effect on Europe than an elongated movement away from slavery. Germany was a broken country. And maybe that’s part of it… Germany lost and had to accept reparations and therefore guilt etc. (White) America never lost but learnt… judgmental clarity is therefore lacking.

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  • Mai La Dreapta Says:

    What are these people sorry for? Their questionable dress sense? Their poor choice of lifestyle? Flatulence? Original sin? Context, please.

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    Erik Reply:

    Slavery and insufficient negro uplift, which, to the best of my knowledge, is their conception of original sin.

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    Peter A. Taylor Reply:

    They are taking on guilt for things that happened before they were born, in an apparent attempt to be as holy, if not holier, than Jesus. I think I feel a Georg Friedrich Handel tune coming on.

    “Behold the Lamb of God, that taketh away the sins of the world.”

    If I can’t aspire to be the Lamb of God, can I at least aspire to be the Jackass of God?

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  • Mercher Says:

    Hmm…how about paying reparations in kind?

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    Posted on May 22nd, 2014 at 9:24 pm Reply | Quote
  • scientism Says:

    I first saw this in a display cabinet at University College London with photos of the students who had participated in it. I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. Apparently it’s put on by a Christian group.

    http://www.lifelineexpedition.co.uk

    Here’s a story about them from 2007:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5105328.stm

    “Sorry is often said to be the hardest word but Andrew Hawkins felt compelled to apologise to a crowd of thousands of Africans.

    His regret was not for his own actions but offered on behalf of his ancestor, who traded in African slaves 444 years ago.”

    After they apologise, a real life African accepts their apology and frees them from their chains.

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    scientism Reply:

    Here’s a trailer for a documentary they made about it, where you can see white people in chains hanging their heads in shame and crying while being berated by black people!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X35cb4a7gg

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  • Nullus Says:

    What’s your take on the UKIP phenomenon Nick?

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    admin Reply:

    I’m not plugged in to UK political culture, so my impressions are almost entirely filtered through propaganda. Seems to me the Faragistes are too concerned with winning elections to be worth getting excited about.

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    Konkvistador Reply:

    “Seems to me the Faragistes are too concerned with winning elections to be worth getting excited about.”

    The eternal problem of right-wing-ish or slightly less leftist politics and the reason they never amount to anything.

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    Little Hans Reply:

    UKIP supporters seem to be very much in-line with the NRx principle that the political and social elite are lying to them.

    This morning, Radio 5 is clogged up with people calling in abut UKIP, and the point they always make is that ‘the media and elites preach x to us, but in my daily experience, it’s not x’.

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    Posted on May 23rd, 2014 at 1:06 am Reply | Quote
  • MW Says:

    Christianity will save the West, they said.

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    E.Antony Gray (RiverC) Reply:

    this ain’t Christianity.

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    Scharlach Reply:

    True, this is a perversion of Christianity. You’re supposed to seek reconciliation with people whom you’ve personally wronged, but this “sins of the ancestors” stuff seems very near to seeking forgiveness for original sin more generally. But the Bible is clear that one is only to seek forgiveness of sins from Christ. So, essentially, seeking forgiveness from blacks is idoloatry.

    Someone around here must know the Bible better than me, though. Does it anywhere use the language of forgiveness in anything but the context of sin separating man and God?

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    E. Antony Gray (@RiverC) Reply:

    The ultimate question here is whether:
    1. One is guilty of other people’s actions, related or unrelated, at all
    2. One has to deal with the consequences of other people’s actions, related or unrelated

    The scriptures affirm that the first is not true (Children not guilty of the sins of their fathers) but that the second is (unto the ‘fourth’ generation)

    It is obvious there are consequences of the choices, errors or otherwise, of previous generations. The question is what to do about them. The superstitious, emotional approach is to try to take on these errors as personal errors and ritually atone for them. This is called ‘scapegoating’. (In this case, the people have made themselves the scapegoats.)

    In the scripture, the messiah takes the role of scapegoat, and ‘ritually atones’ for all error, past and future. However, his role in this regard is unitive, only he can do it due to various properties of his being (being God, for instance.) One of the forms of the messiah is the ‘suffering servant’, one who takes others’ errors upon himself and their afflictions upon himself, to remove them. Note that this process would be idiotic and insane if the ‘sufferer’ could not remove them. (How they are removed is a different subject.)

    So it’s clear this is simply a form of a messiah-complex, something not unheard of in Christian history, but likely not unique to Christendom. The last time I can think of a significant display oft his was in self-flagellation during the Plague times. The difference though seems to be that these ‘sufferings’ (in video above) are not intended to ‘remove’ anyone else’s guilt, which is always a key to the behavior being inspired by Christianity. They are suffering to remove their own felt guilt for behavior someone else did; the Christian instead suffers to remove the guilt or consequences experiences by others because of what THEY did. (“I am the chief of all sinners.”)

    Calling this behavior pagan does a disservice to pagans. It is debased without any genuine humility. About this particular deadly thought, John Cassian wrote, “The man who is afflicted by self esteem, if he cannot glory in his riches, he will glory in his rags.”

    Lesser Bull Reply:

    Christianity is the West. If the West is saved, Christianity will be part of it. If doomed, some Christian variant will be responsible. If the singularity happens, it will be because of deep Christian eschatological expectations that shaped a bunch of techies who know nothing about Christianity or who think they’re opposed to it.

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  • Izak Says:

    On the bright side, there is something so naturally logical and *consistent* about despising these sorts of people. I despise them; (because?) they anticipate being despised! Everyone is happy! I myself would gladly start whipping these gentlemen for their choice in footwear and hats — let alone the fact that they couldn’t possibly sing “Camptown Races” or even “I Get No Kick From Champagne” nearly half as good as a bona fide slave.

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  • Konkvistador Says:

    And this is what happens to your children if you *don’t* marry your cousin.

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    spandrell Reply:

    Hah, good line.

    Unfortunately you could put any fucked up newsbit from Pakistan and say: that’s what happens when you marry your cousin.

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  • christpankhurst Says:

    If Christians choose to indulge in such nonsense that’s up to them. Worse is the fact that this is being imposed on schoolkids.
    https://saboteur365.wordpress.com/2014/05/03/revolting-and-disgusting-white-school-children-forced-into-chains-to-atone-for-slavery/comment-page-1/

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  • bob sykes Says:

    The White Race needs some serious culling.

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    admin Reply:

    Stolen (with minor compressive modification).

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  • nyan_sandwich Says:

    Who was it who said this kind of shit is why whitey needs Jesus?

    Jesus is a guilt-sink. Whitey can feel really guilty, then put all that guilt on Jesus, who got crucified for all of man’s crimes, and then feel forgiven, without ever needing to go through the trouble of actually dismantling his own civilization.

    Of course the holier-than-thous claim that Christians do evil stuff and then beg God for forgiveness. They claim that they are so holy that they don’t need to beg God for forgiveness. Then it becomes abnormal to beg God for forgiveness, so whitey starts begging blacks for forgiveness, and offering the destruction of his own civilization as reparation.

    Sometimes it feels damn good to be white, but sometimes I feel like begging God to forgive us our pathetic guilt-culture. Too bad there is no God.

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    Lou Reply:

    @nyan_sandwich

    Christianity is the original leftism. Pre-Christian European religion is profoundly right-wing. On the Genealogy of Morality has some good insights into them both.

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  • Lesser Bull Says:

    Wait, the dude in the background with the So Sorry shirt, head bowed, looking somber, is a black guy. Ha ha ha ha ha!

    I have about as much respect for a black guy who would let himself be used in this farce as I do for the white guy who creates it.

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    fotrkd Reply:

    I assumed he was the judge (his hands don’t appear chained).

    In a haze these days
    I pull up to the stop light
    I can feel that something’s not right
    I can feel that someone’s blasting me with hate
    And bass
    Sendin’ dirty vibes my way
    ‘Cause my great great great great Grandad
    Made someones’ great great great great Grandaddies slaves
    It wasn’t my idea
    It wasn’t my idea
    Never was my idea

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    Lesser Bull Reply:

    Yes, of course. My point stands.

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    fotrkd Reply:

    Indeed.

    Posted on May 23rd, 2014 at 3:39 pm Reply | Quote
  • Nick B. Steves Says:

    Here’s a “So sorry” from 1989…

    [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Dwv5-0qXU]

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  • rollo Says:

    This could be a BDSM Fest and/or the guys who excommunicated Heimbach and Parrott.

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  • Lesser Bull Says:

    It’s contagious:

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2000-05-01/news/0005010158_1_slave-trade-benin-president-mathieu-kerekou

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