So, they did it

Their delight at the decision burns:

For reminding America that demagoguery feeds on despair and that truth is only as powerful as the trust in those who speak it, for empowering a hidden electorate by mainstreaming its furies and live-streaming its fears, and for framing tomorrow’s political culture by demolishing yesterday’s, Donald Trump is TIME’s 2016 Person of the Year.

Divided States of America is worth everything.

And 2016 continues:

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December 7, 2016admin 31 Comments »
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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    Wew

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  • Uncle Kenny Says:

    “framing tomorrow’s political culture by demolishing yesterday’s” … that part I understand. The rest is gibberish.

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    admin Reply:

    I’d expected the image to be more tear-blotted.

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    Erebus Reply:

    >”truth is only as powerful as the trust in those who speak it”

    This is actually an interesting statement. It’s certainly not entirely true, for obvious reasons — but it is absolutely true insofar as political life in a democracy or republic is concerned. The power of what Moldbug called the Cathedral rests entirely upon this, as that structure is both the official arbiter of truth, and controls the mainstream outlets by which this truth is received. It is a self-contained truth pipeline. (This is why the oppositional idea — the Antiversity — is of such enduring interest.) Yet, thanks to the very nature of the Internet, the foundations of the system are starting to crumble, and the hubris of its controllers does it no favors. Given time, perhaps it’ll simply collapse under its own weight.

    …But, having said all that, this is Time magazine we’re talking about. Doubtless the author simply meant to imply “Clinton was brave and honest, whereas Drumpf is an evil fascist liar,” and nothing more.

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    Wagner Reply:

    What’s dangerous about this is it will give the illusion of building the Antiversity while dragging the real Antiversity under the Cathedral’s fold. Or maybe we’re a bunch of cynics and truth isn’t necessarily taboo to cathedralists. Oh know, their voodoo is already working.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    We are the Antiversity

    Zimriel Reply:

    Brave and Infogalactic are the Antiversity; Moldbug tried and failed with Resartus. Haven’t heard what Urbit is doing lately.

    Frog Do Reply:

    No, I’m Spartcus

    collen ryan Reply:

    No I think they are implying not just anyone should be allowed to speak in public, because the wrong truths might be given a false equivalency.

    They are going for the kill shot now they are going to lock down the internet if they can, if they cant they are going to monitor and record those who step out of line.
    Laugh because I used to, but the more i research this truther thing the more I think they may be right, that 911 was indeed deep state, which means they wanted an excuse to outlaw privacy.The level of surveillance they want couldn’t be done surreptitiously it requires tens of thousands of personnel, it needs a legitimate cover story.

    Im sure they have good reasons, we can all think of why a responsible well intentioned deep state might convince themselves we simply cant afford privacy with this level of tech. Some of us more paranoid types can even imagine how an even deeper state might use that legitimate fear to get those who think they are the deep state to break a bunch of laws and kill people to do this for some other purpose entirely.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Layers of State, or the Thousand Tiered State

    Wagner Reply:

    50 Shades of State

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  • Covenaut Says:

    Have you received your GAB account, Admin? This one signed up on the 3rd and got access today. Bit of a toilet wall, however.

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    admin Reply:

    Still waiting. I think there might be special problems when the Chinese Internet is in any way involved.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    You can have my account.

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    Alrenous Reply:

    Ooh.

    Note difference between getting an account ‘properly’ and getting an account. Could also simply sign up a new account specifically for giving to Land.

    Wagner Reply:

    That way he can talk China up from an account that China is too totalitarian to allow, upping the irony factor.

    woods Reply:

    An accurate description with “Alt-right hugbox” getting second prize.
    Already deleted my account.

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    AugustusPugin Reply:

    Obligatory shilling for GNU Social as the obvious superior choice of Exit for post-Twitter micro-blogging for its decentralized and federated structure, leading to commie instances and “free speech” instances attached to the same protocol. GAB merely re-invents centralization for a smaller and more ideologically uniform clade of diminishing shitposters.

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    devcarrier Reply:

    @Augustuspugin. Agreed. The point above about smuggling profiles is a good one though. Privacy issues though. Dud email required too. No way the good doctor should take that risk. We wouldn’t. Our email was filtered out first time around, so trying again with an alternative is recommended. That zoo is not, however. It’s an alt right Ello. Remember that?

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  • Harry K-Tel Says:

    Make note of the devil horns formed by the M atop Trump’s head.

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    Posted on December 7th, 2016 at 5:42 pm Reply | Quote
  • Mike Says:

    “Person” of the year should have read “Man”.

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    Zimriel Reply:

    You know they wanted to say “lying orange racist of the year”.

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    Posted on December 7th, 2016 at 6:58 pm Reply | Quote
  • collen ryan Says:

    The Cathedral doesn’t so much suppress truth as distort it, spin it, frame it, contextualize it.Oh sure they will outright lie through one outlet while telling a partial truth through another, and offer to settle on the reasonable middle in yet another.

    In a sense the internet is the antiversity, as it can address at all levels autonomously even anonymously.The cathedral worked best when it couldn’t be challenged, information flowed in only one direction down.Or up in the early days.You could fail to be indoctrinated but you couldn’t challenge the professor.Its not simply challenging the professors ideas, its challenging that he is the professor,thus fake news is warned against by the pope no less yesterday.This is serious this is going to be a all out attempt control speech and information.Its one thing to have a wag in your classroom quite another to have no classroom. As the gun printer Cody Wilson quoted someone in his book “come and take it” -“the biggest mistake the establishment made was not licensing personal computers”. They are in a sense victims of their own demotist success.

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  • reader Says:

    @collen ryan
    I always had skepticism of the “left” in my mind, even when I was a leftist. It was dormant in my mind somehow… I just never entertained it. It’s weird how the mind can like, think one thought while actively having another thought at the same time.

    I went through the motions, but there was no part of me asking “why” – I didn’t even realize I had the choice. It’s really like being asleep. In a dream. Where you don’t even realize you’re dreaming.

    When I found neoreaction and then some of the more seedy sides of this whole new internet deal, it was like all those voices in my mind started to shout – and suddenly I really realized that I was dreaming. I woke up. And then I could see that all those people around me were still asleep.

    I’m very ashamed to use such trite and common sort of comparisons, it is definitely the best way of explaining it though. When you’re indoctrinated it really is like dreaming. For that reason I would imagine, much like in Inception, that the internet poses the #1 threat to the current elite and it is their utmost desire and focus right now to find a way to remove it from influence.

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    collen ryan Reply:

    As I said it could be……on the other hand. Its incredible how in 50 years humans have gone from living life to watching an approximation of life inside a electronic box. Millennials seem to never live at all so it debatable whether they even have a dog in this fight. They are not alive, have no ties to the real world, they are literally the matrix, they dont exist outside it if they are unhooked they become angry depressed resentful etc.

    Double think as Orwell termed it is surely an evolutionary adaptation allowing us to switch sides in a social power struggle as quickly as possible, or something. Most of whats wrong is caused by similar old wiring.

    Have you read Moldbug, radish alfin la griffe du lion auster there were so many they are all hidden or retired now but there is still a lot out there this blog is sort of an odd duck

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    Shane Eide Reply:

    The Matrix has always been a good initial metaphor for the first stage of waking up, butI think we’re coming up on a time that is much more like Inception, as you said.
    In a post-internet world, one can only see the truth by going layers deep, and once there, must hang onto a piece of oneself as a reminder of what life is worth at the top, a totem.

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  • cyborg_nomade Says:

    the box article is actually very good. “is there anything 2016 can’t do?”

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    Posted on December 8th, 2016 at 2:16 pm Reply | Quote
  • Seth Largo Says:

    Fernandez’s latest dovetails nicely:

    The strategy of keeping the outsiders out [of] the castle fails when the outsiders don’t want a castle. Thus the anti fake news campaign could ironically lead to affirmation by negation, to the creation of entire outlets consisting entirely of forbidden content desirable in itself; in boycotts which might give rise to groups whose hash tokens of banishment are turned into passports of admission.

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  • Quint Essential Says:

    I love the vox chart. “Darkest” to “lightest”. Subtle.

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    Posted on December 8th, 2016 at 10:15 pm Reply | Quote
  • SVErshov Says:

    when saying bad things did not work, say something good, it just might. you dont have any other choice anyway. changing content of idiocy, not going to make it less idiotic.

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    Posted on December 9th, 2016 at 5:57 am Reply | Quote
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