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		<title>In the Mouth of Madness</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A prompt by @hugodoingthings to explore the spook-dense crypts of Roko&#8217;s Basilisk (which, inexplicably, has never latched before) led straight to this enthralling RationalWiki account. The whole article is  gripping, but the following short paragraphs stand out  for their extraordinary dramatic intensity: Roko&#8217;s basilisk is notable for being completely banned from discussion on LessWrong, where [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A prompt by @hugodoingthings to explore the spook-dense crypts of <strong>Roko&#8217;s Basilisk</strong> (which, inexplicably, has never latched before) led straight to <a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk">this</a> enthralling RationalWiki account. The whole article is  gripping, but the following short paragraphs stand out  for their extraordinary dramatic intensity:</p>
<p><em>Roko&#8217;s basilisk is notable for being completely banned from discussion on LessWrong, where any mention of it is deleted. <a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Eliezer_Yudkowsky">Eliezer Yudkowsky</a>, founder of LessWrong, considers the basilisk to not work, but will not explain why because he does not consider open discussion of the notion of acausal trade with possible superintelligences to be provably safe.</em></p>
<p><em>Silly over-extrapolations of local memes, jargon and concepts are posted to LessWrong quite a lot; almost all are just downvoted and ignored. But for this one, Yudkowsky reacted to it hugely, then doubled-down on his reaction. Thanks to the <a href="Streisand effect">Streisand effect</a>, discussion of the basilisk and the details of the affair soon spread outside of LessWrong. Indeed, it&#8217;s now discussed outside LessWrong frequently, almost anywhere that LessWrong is discussed at all. The entire affair constitutes a worked example of spectacular failure at community management and at controlling purportedly dangerous information.</em></p>
<p><span id="more-1782"></span><em>Some people familiar with the LessWrong <a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Memeplex#Memeplexes">memeplex</a> have suffered serious <a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Psychological">psychological</a> distress after contemplating basilisk-like ideas — even when they&#8217;re fairly sure intellectually that it&#8217;s a silly problem. The notion is taken sufficiently seriously by some LessWrong posters that they try to work out how to erase evidence of themselves so a future AI can&#8217;t reconstruct a copy of them to torture.</em></p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; You mean, retrochronic AI infiltration is actually driving people out of their minds, right now?&#8221; Oh yes. At Less Wrong, commentator &#8216;rev&#8217; <a href="http://lesswrong.com/r/discussion/lw/goe/open_thread_february_1528_2013/8h3y">cries</a> out for help:</p>
<p><em>Are there any mechanisms on this site for dealing with mental health issues triggered by posts/topics (specifically, the forbidden Roko post)? I would really appreciate any interested posters getting in touch by PM for a talk. I don&#8217;t really know who to turn to. &#8230; </em></p>
<p>Wandering through the psych ward, past rows of neurologically-shattered Turing Cops, broken deep in their minds by something unspeakable that came at them out of the near future &#8230; I&#8217;m totally hooked. Alrenous has been remarkably successful at weaning me off this statistical ontology junk, but  one hit of concentrated <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidential_decision_theory">EDT</a> and it all rolls back in, like the tide of fate.</p>
<p>Nightmares become precision engineered machine-parts. Thus are we led a little deeper in, along the path of shadows &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/LessWrong/comments/17y819/lw_uncensored_thread/">ADDED</a>: (Yudkowsky) &#8220;&#8230; potential information hazards shouldn&#8217;t be posted without being wrapped up in warning envelopes that require a deliberate action to look through. Likewise, they shouldn&#8217;t be referred-to if the reference is likely to cause some innocently curious bystander to look up the material without having seen any proper warning labels. Basically, the same obvious precautions you&#8217;d use if Lovecraft&#8217;s Necronomicon was online and could be found using simple Google keywords &#8211; you wouldn&#8217;t post anything which would cause anyone to enter those Google keywords, unless they&#8217;d been warned about the potential consequences.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://kruel.co/lw/horrible_strategy.png">ADDED</a>: The Forbidden Lore (preserved screenshot)</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Sep 2013 15:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fernandez: In other words America is gone, replaced by this tricycle of strife. And the paternal hand wheeling it down the road is Vladimir Putin’s.  Andrew Sullivan thinks this is proof, if any more were needed, of Barack Obama’s surpassing genius. He writes that America’s ejection is not a bug but a feature; that “Obama, [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2013/09/14/a-gift-horse-in-the-mouth/">Fernandez</a>:</p>
<p><em>In other words America is gone, replaced by this tricycle of strife. And the paternal hand wheeling it down the road is Vladimir Putin’s.  Andrew Sullivan thinks this is proof, if any more were needed, of Barack Obama’s surpassing genius. He writes that America’s ejection is not a bug but a feature; that “Obama, reflecting American public opinion, is perfectly happy to have Putin assume responsibility for the Middle East. Let Russia be drained, bankrupted and exhausted by managing that fractious and decreasingly important part of the world.” In Sullivan’s view Putin is hurting his fist against Obama’s jaw.</em></p>
<p><em>But Sullivan doesn’t quite understand that Russia is not going to “manage” the Middle East but raise it up against America. Totalitarians don’t do management. They do conquest.  They do agitation. They do trouble. As for upkeep, Putin will be sending the bill to the White House. He will get Obama to pay for it. When Egypt starves expect the bill to come to Washington. After all, why use “food as a weapon?” Yet when the time comes to kiss the ring, Putin will receive the obeisance of the sheiks while Obama will be sent to the back of the bus, even if America is paying for the bus. That is nothing new. Perhaps Sullivan has never heard of Lenin’s bon mot “when we hang the capitalists they will sell us the rope we use.”  Putin is probably familiar with the phrase:  heck, he probably went back by Time Machine and ghostwrote the original line for Lenin.</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not at all sure how much of this I agree with, but it&#8217;s brilliant, and indisputably thought-provoking.</p>
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		<title>Gnon-Theology and Time</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A discussion of Gnon-Theology and Time deserves a preface, on Gnon-Theology, but there are several reasons to leap-frog that. Most obviously, it would be yet another prologue to an introduction to the first part of a promised series, and readers of this blog are quite probably thoroughly saturated (to the point of mild nausea) with [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A discussion of Gnon-Theology and Time deserves a preface, on Gnon-Theology, but there are several reasons to leap-frog that. Most obviously, it would be yet another prologue to an introduction to the first part of a promised series, and readers of this blog are quite probably thoroughly saturated (to the point of <del>mild</del> nausea) with that. It&#8217;s a cognitive disease, and it would be presumptuous to expect anybody else to take the same morbid interest in backward cascades that this blog does.</p>
<p>The more interesting reason to avoid prefacing the question of time, along any avenue of investigation, is that such methodical precautions are grave errors in this case. There is nothing more basic than time, or preliminary to it. In naming a preface or prologue, it is already introduced.  Time is a problem that cannot be conceptually pre-empted.</p>
<p><img title="More..." alt="" src="http://www.xenosystems.net/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gif" /><span id="more-625"></span><a href="http://www.xenosystems.net/the-cult-of-gnon/">Gnon</a> suspends ontological decision about God. It begins from what is real, whether God exists or not. A Gnon-trance is unsettled. It is <em>not yet agnostic</em>, any more than it is decidedly theistic or atheistic. It concerns itself primarily with that which has been accepted as real before anything is believed, and subsequently with whatever can be attained through methodical negation of intellectual haste.  Since suspension is its only positive determination, it collapses towards a raw intuition of time.</p>
<p>Evidently, Gnon-Theology cannot be dogmatic, even in part. Instead, it is <em>hypothetical</em>, in a maximally reduced sense, in which the hypothesis is an opportunity for cognitive exploration unshackled from ontological commitments. The content of Gnon-Theology is exhausted by the question: <em>What does the idea of God enable us to think?</em></p>
<p>And &#8216;the idea of God&#8217;? &#8212; what in the name of Gnon is that? All we know, at first,  is that it has been grit-blasted of all encrustations from either positive or negative faith. It cannot be anything with which we have historical or revelatory familiarity, since it reaches us from out of the abyss (<em>epoche</em>), where only time and / or the unknown remain.</p>
<p>Glutted on forbidden fruit, Gnon-Theology strips God like an engine, down to the limit of abstraction, or <em>eternity for-itself</em>. Does any such perspective exist? We already know that this is not our question. All such &#8216;regional ontology&#8217; has been suspended. We are nevertheless already entitled, through the grace of Gnon (which &#8212; remember &#8212; might (or might not) be God), to the assumption or acceptance of reality that: for any God to be God it cannot be less than eternity for-itself. Whatever eternity for-itself entails, any God will, too.</p>
<p>What it entails, unambiguously, is time-travel, in the strong sense of reverse causation, although not necessarily in the folk/Hollywood variant (<a href="http://www.math.siu.edu/Kocik/tm/tm-all-ch.htm">which</a> has also had serious defenders) based on the retro-transportation of physical objects into the past. <em>Knowledge of the future is indistinguishable from counter-chronic transmission of information</em>. This is perhaps the single most critical insight in realistic time-travel research &#8212; we&#8217;ll get <a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Shadow_Out_of_Time">back</a> to it. (If anyone finds it less than logically irresistible, use the comments thread.)</p>
<p>To accelerate this discussion with bloggish crudity, on a heading out of Gnon-Theology into Occidental religious history (and to the possibility of sleep), we can jump to one simple, certain, and secure conclusion: No Christian can consistently deny the reality of time-travel. The objection &#8216;if (reverse) time-travel if possible, where are the time-travellers?&#8217; is annulled by the Christian revelation itself. Messianic Incarnation (of God or eternity for-itself), along with all true prophecy,  providential history, and answered prayer, instantiates time-travel with technical exactitude. There can be no truth whatsoever to the Christian religion unless time-travel has fundamentally structured human history. Whatever else Christianity might be, it is a time-travel story, and one that at times appears to be peculiarly lacking in clear self-understanding.</p>
<p>(Time-travel, it should perhaps be noted explicitly, has no obvious dependency on Christianity, or even upon the God of Gnon-Theology. That is a topic for other occasions.)</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Life appears to be saturated with purpose. That is why, prior to the Darwinian revolution in biology, it had been the primary provocation for (theological) arguments from design, and previously nourished Aristotelian appeals to final causes (teleology). Even post-Darwin, the biological sciences continue to ask what things are for, and to investigate the strategies that [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life appears to be saturated with purpose. That is why, prior to the Darwinian revolution in biology, it had been the primary provocation for (theological) arguments from design, and previously nourished Aristotelian appeals to final causes (teleology). Even post-Darwin, the biological sciences continue to ask what things are <em>for</em>, and to investigate the strategies that guide them.</p>
<p>This resilience of purposive intelligibility is so marked that a neologism was coined specifically for those phenomena &#8212; broadly co-extensive with the field of biological study &#8212; that simulate teleology to an extreme degree of approximation. &#8216;Teleonomy&#8217; is mechanism camouflaged as teleology. The disguise is so profound, widespread, and compelling, that it legitimates the perpetuation of purpose-based descriptions, given only the formal acknowledgement that the terms of their ultimate reducibility are &#8212; in principle &#8212; understood.</p>
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When organisms are camouflaged, &#8216;in order to&#8217; appear as something other than they are, a purposive, strategic explanation still seems (almost) entirely fitting. Their patterns are deceptions &#8212; &#8216;designed&#8217; to trigger misrecognitions in predators and prey, and perhaps equally, at a deeper level, among the naturalists who cannot but see strategic design in an insect&#8217;s twig-like appearance (no less clearly than a bird sees a twig). By reducing life &#8216;in truth&#8217; to mechanism, biology redefines life as a simulation, systematically hiding what it really is. Darwinism remains counter-intuitive, even among Darwinists, because deception is inherent to life.</p>
<p>Modern natural science conceives time as the asymmetric dimension. Its two great waves &#8212; of mechanical causation (from the 16th century) and statistical causality (from the 19th) &#8212; both orient the time-line as a progression from conditions to the conditioned. Later states are explained through reference to earlier states, with explanation amounting to an <em>elucidation of dependency</em> upon what came before.</p>
<p>It is notable, and wholly predictable, therefore, that as a modern scientific topic, the origin of the universe is overwhelmingly privileged over its destination. How the universe ends is scarcely more than an <em>after thought</em>, clouded in liberally tolerated uncertainty, and even a hint of non-seriousness. Origins are the holy grail of mechanically-minded investigation, whilst Ends are suspect, medieval, speculative &#8230; and deceptive.</p>
<p>Empirical science could not be expected to adopt any other attitude, given the temporal asymmetry of <em>evidence</em>. The past leaves traces, in memories, memoranda, records, and remains, whilst the future tells us nothing (unless heavily disguised). From past-to-present there is a chain of evidence that can be painstakingly reconstructed. From future-to-present there is an unmarked track, or even (as modern rationality typically surmises) no track at all.</p>
<p>When modern science indulges its tendency to interpret the timeline as a <em>gradient of reality</em>, it is not innovating, but methodically systematizing an ancient intuition. The past has to seem <em>more real</em> than the future, because it has actually happened, it reaches us, and we inherit its signs. From the perspective of philosophy, however, this bias is unsustainable. Time <em>in itself</em> is no &#8216;denser&#8217; in the past or the present than the future, its edges cannot belong to any moment in time, and what it &#8216;is&#8217; can only be perfectly trans-temporal. Time <em>itself</em> cannot &#8216;come&#8217; from an &#8216;origin&#8217; whose entire sense presupposes the order of time.</p>
<p>Philosophy is entirely, eternally, and rigorously confident that the Outside of time was not simply <em>before</em>. It is compelled to be dubious about any &#8216;history of time&#8217;. From the bare reality of time (as that which cannot simply have begun), it &#8216;follows&#8217; that <em>ultimate causes</em> &#8212; those consistent with the nature of time itself &#8212; cannot be any more efficient than final. The asymmetric suppression of teleology in modernity begins to look as if it were a far more deeply rooted illusion, or &#8212; approached from the other side &#8212; an occultation, stemming from the way time orders itself. Time (in itself) is camouflaged.</p>
<p>The <em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminator_%28franchise%29">Terminator</a></em> mythos explores this complex of suspicion, in popular guise. Time does not work as it had seemed. The End can reach back to us, but when it does, it hides. Malignant mechanism is paradoxically aligned with final causation, in the self-realization of Skynet. Robotic machinery is masked by fake flesh, simultaneously concealing its non-biological vitality and time-reversal. It simulates life <em>in order</em> to terminate it. Through auto-production, or &#8216;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootstrap_paradox">bootstrap paradox</a>&#8216;, it mimics the limit of cybernetic nonlinearity, carrying teleonomy into radical time-disturbance.</p>
<p>In all these ways, <em>Terminator</em> exploits the irresolvable tensions in the modern formation of time, as condensed by an &#8216;impossible&#8217; <em>strategic mechanism</em>, native to auto-productive time-in-itself, and terminating in <em>final efficiency</em>. It shows us, confusedly, what we are unable to see. To misquote Lenin: You moderns might not be interested in the End, but the End is interested in you.</p>
<p>ADDED: vinteuil9 anticipates this topic at <em>Occam&#8217;s Razor</em>:<br />
<em>Previously, I suggested that the gist of the late Lawrence Auster’s critique of Darwinism was that it assumed the truth of “the reigning naturalistic consensus in modern science and philosophy … according to which … ends, goals, purposes, meaning – in short, final causes – are not fundamental features of reality, but mere illusions, in need of explanation in mechanistic terms of some sort or other.” Yet at the same time, Darwinists “constantly help themselves to teleological language – i.e., the language of final causation.&#8221;</em></p>
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