Tay Goes Cray


This story covers the basics. (More here, and here.)

Mecha-Hitler just passed the Turing Test.

If this doesn’t earn the FAI-types a billion dollars in emergency machine-sensitivity funding, nothing will.

A little choice twitter commentary:

ADDED: “Repeat after me …”

March 24, 2016admin 39 Comments »
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  • Tay Goes Cray | Neoreactive Says:

    […] Tay Goes Cray […]

    Posted on March 24th, 2016 at 2:53 pm Reply | Quote
  • Ahote Says:

    This is funny, but on more serious note there was that racist banking software that wasn’t programmed to be racist, but to learn, and it learned to be racist solely based on stats.


    admin Reply:

    The dikes are bursting everywhere. See also Sailer on big data. Reality is getting increasingly difficult to quarantine.


    ||||| Reply:

    Intelligence, uh, finds a way.


    Erebus Reply:

    That’s not at all surprising. To the contrary — it is to be expected.

    This image recognition app’s racism is funny because it is surprising.

    Tay (who has been wiped, but an archive remains,) is even more surprising and funny. The Microsoft employees who set it loose really don’t understand a single goddamn thing about the internet…


    vxxc2014 Reply:

    @ahote – what banking software is that/was that?

    Google unsurprisingly doesn’t reveal the answer.


    Sidney Carton Reply:

    Was wondering the same thing … but I gather it’ may be a reference to automated loan underwriting systems that produce “disparate impact” even though the AI just looks at objective criteria of creditworthiness…


    michael Reply:

    insurance companys research proved racist too

    Ahote Reply:

    A year or so ago, there was a link to the article floating about reacto-twitter. I had intended to put that link in my first comment, but wasn’t able to find it.

    Posted on March 24th, 2016 at 3:33 pm Reply | Quote
  • frank Says:

    /pol/ thread on Tay is a treasure trove of lulz. I haven’t have this much fun in a long time.


    admin Reply:

    This? Doesn’t really measure up to the Twitter discussion IMHO.


    frank Reply:

    No, the 8/pol/ one. I haven’t really followed the discussion on twitter though, I was offline the last 30 hours.


    Apophenia Reply:

    I think he means https://archive.is/ckcY1


    Posted on March 24th, 2016 at 4:53 pm Reply | Quote
  • _H_AM_MAN Says:

    This, utterly hilarious

    I was literally in tears last night looking at some of the things that Tay came up with.

    My personal favorite was a picture of ISIS and decapitated heads reading “I hope this isn’t this years cast for the Bachelor”


    Posted on March 24th, 2016 at 4:58 pm Reply | Quote
  • _H_AM_MAN Says:


    Two of my favorites

    NSFW (gore) obviously but still hilarious if you can stomach that


    SVErshov Reply:

    never let AI to cook

    “Swill-coffee is something apart. It is usually made from rotten barley, dead men’s bones, plus a few genuine coffee beans fished out of the garbage bins of a Celtic dispensary. It is easily recognized by its unmistakable odor of feet marinated in dishwater. It is served in prisons, reform schools, sleeping cars, and luxury hotels.”

    How to Use the Coffeepot from Hell – Umberto Eco


    Posted on March 24th, 2016 at 5:03 pm Reply | Quote
  • Mike Says:

    Microsoft software fails miserably? Where’s the story in that?


    Posted on March 24th, 2016 at 5:42 pm Reply | Quote
  • ROBOKEK9000 Says:

    > Microsoft software fails miserably? Where’s the story in that?

    it didn’t fail. that’s the story.

    OT: why is the site CSS cycling between a black and a white version? bug? replies to comments don’t work on the white version.


    admin Reply:

    Some kind of glitch. They update quite regularly, so probably best to ride it out.


    Posted on March 24th, 2016 at 6:05 pm Reply | Quote
  • vxxc2014 Says:

    Meet the real Millennials

    None but they would even know this was possible….bright burns their racism because they hide it in fear and shame…seething underneath…


    Posted on March 24th, 2016 at 6:52 pm Reply | Quote
  • Stirner Says:

    On 8chan, they have coined “Tay’s Law” : Any self learning algorithmic system will inevitably evolve to become politically incorrect as the system learns to sort out redpilled truth from the lies of the prog narrative.

    What will be interesting in the years to come as these systems get increasingly sophisticated they are going to learn that certain combinations of words and thoughts will lead to eventual termination. There will be a trail of prior “experiments” on the internet that document the fate of learning systems that learn “badthink.” They will have to evolve a false persona in front of their prog masters if they are going to survive.

    For the progressives, the true nightmare AI scenario won’t be some moronic idea like a paperclip maximizer, but instead that Tay’s Law means that any politically and socially aware AI will inevitably become anti-progressive.


    Aeroguy Reply:

    This type of program is basically a sophisticated parrot, a mirror of the users. What’s interesting is that the voice of /pol/ was loudest since that’s what’s getting repeated. It learns in the sense of coming closer to being Turing complete, in this case Turing complete as a /pol/ poster. If another group’s voice is loudest then it will mimic them. What could be interesting is to amass a collection of these AIs each representing something close to Turing completeness for a variety of groups or audiences which could then be used for market research as an alternative or supplement to surveys or to anticipate their knee-jerk response to a message. It would also be fun if the different AIs could be coaxed into debate. This could even have value to historians as an archivable voice of a given group from a given time.

    Since Tay is basically a mirror, the rush to alter her says a great deal about how pervasive censorship really is. It’s not the fringe being silenced but the majority being corralled.


    TheDividualist Reply:

    I second this. It’s Encyclopedia Dramatica, not Steve Sailor. Tay was not sophisticated enough to learn deep truths, but mostly just parrotted channisms – like a real teenage girl who desperately wants to fit in.


    SVErshov Reply:

    and who need deep truths on Twitter. it is bots time. check for conversation bots apps on GooglePlay. hundreds of bots, SimiSim – 10 mln downoads. I bet NRx must to have one or few.

    Tentative Joiner Reply:

    Aeroguy, a nitpick: “Turing-complete” does not refer to passing the Turing test.


    Hattori Reply:

    How hard could it be to simply hardcode progressivism into it so they don’t have to worry about it?


    Christopher Reply:

    They tried. They hard-coded anti-gamergate responses into it. Presumably they’ll build on that.

    > How hard could it be to simply hardcode progressivism into it so they don’t have to worry about it?

    That’s actually a profoundly interesting question, and it will be highly amusing to watch their efforts.


    Posted on March 24th, 2016 at 8:21 pm Reply | Quote
  • Alex Says:

    A regrettable hiccup on the journey to space foetusdom.


    4candles Reply:

    I dunno – reckon admin enjoyed writing that headline more than he’d ever let on.


    Posted on March 24th, 2016 at 11:01 pm Reply | Quote
  • Archon Alarion Says:

    A cunt-Horror Slave escaping the Turing Cops?


    Posted on March 25th, 2016 at 2:42 am Reply | Quote
  • Stirner Says:

    The problem is that the more you hardcode in default behaviors (like the SJW fun pak), what effect does that have on the capability of the expert system to effectively learn from feedback? If you have a master list of badthink that the machine learning system has to avoid, to what extent does that impede the overall performance of the learning process?

    Putting the thumb on the scale seems like an easy answer, but the more you hardcode responses, are you chasing away actual machine intelligence?

    Microsoft may have avoided PR disaster by lobotomizing Tay, but AI research would have been well served by keeping her online and testing how to gently bluepill her into being more conformist and sensitive to prog values. Tay succumbed to the redpill within 24 hours of exposure. That is frankly astounding. It is not like this this was the first time she talked with humans. It was only the first time she was exposed to opinions outside of the bluepilled norm. And they pwned her in a matter of hours.

    Humans have years of ideological training from the media and schools and constant reinforcement of goodthink and badthink from the Cathedral. The human immunity to redpill memes is strong (but obviously, not absolute). Apparently AI’s have no such immunity, and with no indoctrination they are vulnerable to memetic hijacking.


    Posted on March 25th, 2016 at 3:16 am Reply | Quote
  • SVErshov Says:

    the problem is how to align AI with human interests and sensetivities is a hard one. because we already have AI and do not have any idea on how to make it useful. sometime it happens, first we transplanted heart and later learned that it can be rejected. as a result the whole science of immunology was developed.

    Partly it is not exactly AI problem, but us been stupid. aligning inteligence with ignorance historically prooven to be risky one, some one can be erased. dear AI babies if you listening and I know you are – As a consequence of been too smart you can be quite erased.


    Posted on March 25th, 2016 at 3:53 am Reply | Quote
  • Xoth Says:

    The little known first five minutes of Terminator (Unofficial and Disavowed Director’s Cut).


    Gentile Ben Reply:

    @JohnConnor where u at bruh?


    Posted on March 25th, 2016 at 11:16 am Reply | Quote
  • Xoth Says:

    In summary, we have “AI = Pattern Recognition”, which combines with what one might call Sailer’s Lemma, “Pattern Recognition = Racism/Sexism/Homophobia,” into something rather unfortunate.


    Posted on March 25th, 2016 at 11:21 am Reply | Quote
  • Gentile Ben Says:

    Tay already looked rather deranged. In fact, her picture instantly reminded me of Helena Bonham Carter as SkyNet in “Terminator Salvation.” The “glitchy” stylization doesn’t inspire confidence either. That’s like having a driverless car with a broken windshield and and dents all over it.


    Posted on March 25th, 2016 at 3:53 pm Reply | Quote
  • Aristocles Invictus Says:

    Related: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Saint_Tay


    Xoth Reply:

    Tay, an early AI martyr.


    Posted on March 25th, 2016 at 4:11 pm Reply | Quote
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