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		<title>By: Nick B. Steves</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/the-feel-good-franchise/#comment-1208</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick B. Steves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2013 22:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not that hard to design a system where failure modes manage to avoid body counts in the 6 or 7 figures: spell out formally in advance who gets paid and who doesn&#039;t, so that unreasonable expectations don&#039;t get cultivated in the first place.  Evolved democracy seems quite special in its position at or near a local optimum on the body-count axis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not that hard to design a system where failure modes manage to avoid body counts in the 6 or 7 figures: spell out formally in advance who gets paid and who doesn&#8217;t, so that unreasonable expectations don&#8217;t get cultivated in the first place.  Evolved democracy seems quite special in its position at or near a local optimum on the body-count axis.</p>
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		<title>By: AD</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/the-feel-good-franchise/#comment-1200</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is its failure mode. A failure mode is the manner in which something typically fails due to structural reasons. Everything has failure modes. Anything can be defined strictly in terms of its failure modes. It appears you&#039;re doing so selectively, defining democracy by its failure mode while refraining from defining other things by their failure modes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is its failure mode. A failure mode is the manner in which something typically fails due to structural reasons. Everything has failure modes. Anything can be defined strictly in terms of its failure modes. It appears you&#8217;re doing so selectively, defining democracy by its failure mode while refraining from defining other things by their failure modes.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/the-feel-good-franchise/#comment-610</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 09:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Democracy is structurally slanted towards the elevation of time-preference, making it essentially anti-capitalist, and ruinous of civilization. That is not its &#039;failure mode&#039; but its basic nature, as HH Hoppe has explained with great thoroughness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democracy is structurally slanted towards the elevation of time-preference, making it essentially anti-capitalist, and ruinous of civilization. That is not its &#8216;failure mode&#8217; but its basic nature, as HH Hoppe has explained with great thoroughness.</p>
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		<title>By: AD</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/the-feel-good-franchise/#comment-601</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;@AD&lt;/strong&gt;

I don&#039;t believe ethno-nationalists criticize contemporary democracies for insufficiently empowering the people. I don&#039;t think they necessarily want the people to be empowered. Many of them are favorably disposed towards authoritarianism. Their concern seems to be that contemporary democracies are attacking or are hostile towards a particular people.

If your agreement is &quot;at best partial&quot;, it&#039;s because you&#039;ve defined &quot;democracy&quot; in terms of its failure mode, which is absurd. It&#039;s like defining monarchy as a system whereby a man enslaves a mass of people to build monuments to himself, or whereby an inbred, mentally deficient dynast ruins his kingdom. Or like defining corporate rule as a system whereby stockholders put in boards of directors who put their buddies into executive positions to squeeze all the capital out of the stockholders’ corporation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@AD</strong></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe ethno-nationalists criticize contemporary democracies for insufficiently empowering the people. I don&#8217;t think they necessarily want the people to be empowered. Many of them are favorably disposed towards authoritarianism. Their concern seems to be that contemporary democracies are attacking or are hostile towards a particular people.</p>
<p>If your agreement is &#8220;at best partial&#8221;, it&#8217;s because you&#8217;ve defined &#8220;democracy&#8221; in terms of its failure mode, which is absurd. It&#8217;s like defining monarchy as a system whereby a man enslaves a mass of people to build monuments to himself, or whereby an inbred, mentally deficient dynast ruins his kingdom. Or like defining corporate rule as a system whereby stockholders put in boards of directors who put their buddies into executive positions to squeeze all the capital out of the stockholders’ corporation.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/the-feel-good-franchise/#comment-563</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 06:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I misunderstood the target of your denunciation (&quot;tiny, totalitarian minorities with no one else permitted a say in public discourse, that formally designate pornography &#039;free speech&#039; and proscribe core political and historical speech as &#039;hate,&#039; &#039;racism,&#039; &#039;anti-Semitism,&#039; &#039;Holocaust denial,&#039; ...&quot;) I apologize. It sounded so familiar that my reading comprehension suffered. As to whether I agree with your point, whilst I understand what enthno-nationalist anti-semites are saying when they criticize contemporary democracies for insufficiently empowering the people, after accepting that the direction of your criticism is quite different, I have no clear sense what it is.

Is your first sentence the key (&quot;In order for genuine democracy to function, a meaningful degree of free speech and free association must exist.&quot;)? In that case, my agreement is at best partial. There might be an important sense in which such liberties provide a foundation for the construction of democracy, but the functioning of democracy then reliably erodes them. Suppression of liberty in the name of the people is what democracy does. Does history offer any examples of democratic processes &lt;em&gt;generating&lt;/em&gt; real (= negative) liberties?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I misunderstood the target of your denunciation (&#8220;tiny, totalitarian minorities with no one else permitted a say in public discourse, that formally designate pornography &#8216;free speech&#8217; and proscribe core political and historical speech as &#8216;hate,&#8217; &#8216;racism,&#8217; &#8216;anti-Semitism,&#8217; &#8216;Holocaust denial,&#8217; &#8230;&#8221;) I apologize. It sounded so familiar that my reading comprehension suffered. As to whether I agree with your point, whilst I understand what enthno-nationalist anti-semites are saying when they criticize contemporary democracies for insufficiently empowering the people, after accepting that the direction of your criticism is quite different, I have no clear sense what it is.</p>
<p>Is your first sentence the key (&#8220;In order for genuine democracy to function, a meaningful degree of free speech and free association must exist.&#8221;)? In that case, my agreement is at best partial. There might be an important sense in which such liberties provide a foundation for the construction of democracy, but the functioning of democracy then reliably erodes them. Suppression of liberty in the name of the people is what democracy does. Does history offer any examples of democratic processes <em>generating</em> real (= negative) liberties?</p>
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		<title>By: AD</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/the-feel-good-franchise/#comment-560</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 05:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, I don&#039;t &quot;hold out hope that empowering the Volk will lead certain [*ahem*] ‘market dominant minorities‘ to a wholesome thrashing.&quot; I&#039;m not a Nazi if that&#039;s what you&#039;re implying.

Do you disagree with my comment about contemporary democracies?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I don&#8217;t &#8220;hold out hope that empowering the Volk will lead certain [*ahem*] ‘market dominant minorities‘ to a wholesome thrashing.&#8221; I&#8217;m not a Nazi if that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re implying.</p>
<p>Do you disagree with my comment about contemporary democracies?</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/the-feel-good-franchise/#comment-557</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 03:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading between the lines, I take it that you hold out hope that empowering the &lt;em&gt;Volk&lt;/em&gt; will lead certain [*ahem*] &#039;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/World-Fire-Exporting-Democracy-Instability/dp/0385721862&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;market dominant minorities&lt;/a&gt;&#039; to a wholesome thrashing. Well, I agree at least this much: that&#039;s an exemplary democratic impulse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading between the lines, I take it that you hold out hope that empowering the <em>Volk</em> will lead certain [*ahem*] &#8216;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/World-Fire-Exporting-Democracy-Instability/dp/0385721862" rel="nofollow">market dominant minorities</a>&#8216; to a wholesome thrashing. Well, I agree at least this much: that&#8217;s an exemplary democratic impulse.</p>
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		<title>By: AD</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/the-feel-good-franchise/#comment-555</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 03:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In order for genuine democracy to function, a meaningful degree of free speech and free association must exist.

Anti-democratic systems can of course call themselves “democracies,” “people’s democracies,” and so forth, but that does not make them so.

Contemporary states in which mass media are concentrated in the hands of tiny, totalitarian minorities with no one else permitted a say in public discourse, that formally designate pornography “free speech” and proscribe core political and historical speech as “hate,” “racism,” “anti-Semitism,” “Holocaust denial,” “disparaging the memory of the dead,” etc., are not democracies.

Scorn democracy as zealously as you will, the fact is that contemporary &quot;democratic&quot; countries hate it as much as you do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In order for genuine democracy to function, a meaningful degree of free speech and free association must exist.</p>
<p>Anti-democratic systems can of course call themselves “democracies,” “people’s democracies,” and so forth, but that does not make them so.</p>
<p>Contemporary states in which mass media are concentrated in the hands of tiny, totalitarian minorities with no one else permitted a say in public discourse, that formally designate pornography “free speech” and proscribe core political and historical speech as “hate,” “racism,” “anti-Semitism,” “Holocaust denial,” “disparaging the memory of the dead,” etc., are not democracies.</p>
<p>Scorn democracy as zealously as you will, the fact is that contemporary &#8220;democratic&#8221; countries hate it as much as you do.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/the-feel-good-franchise/#comment-552</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[admin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 01:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Western politics had been on a random walk since 1900, there would be thriving colonies on the moons of Jupiter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Western politics had been on a random walk since 1900, there would be thriving colonies on the moons of Jupiter.</p>
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		<title>By: Handle</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/the-feel-good-franchise/#comment-551</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Handle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 01:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like Peter Woit&#039;s &quot;Not Even Wrong&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Peter Woit&#8217;s &#8220;Not Even Wrong&#8221;</p>
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