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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/the-ruin-reservoir/#comment-10292</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Aug 2013 22:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m kinda using head and instincts.

Instincts aren&#039;t quite the same as heart.

Mind you my heart is very set against them.  My country is in the hands of street criminals with law degrees.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m kinda using head and instincts.</p>
<p>Instincts aren&#8217;t quite the same as heart.</p>
<p>Mind you my heart is very set against them.  My country is in the hands of street criminals with law degrees.</p>
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		<title>By: fotrkd</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/the-ruin-reservoir/#comment-9652</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 23:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LkFNZauk90&amp;sns=em&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Visual confirmation&lt;/a&gt; that I&#039;m on the right lines. JD = (suicidal) reactionary; Veronica = idealistic (doomed) progressive. (Full, free, essential-viewing film &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CanqtDoZZq8&amp;sns=em&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; - I jest only slightly).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LkFNZauk90&amp;sns=em" rel="nofollow">Visual confirmation</a> that I&#8217;m on the right lines. JD = (suicidal) reactionary; Veronica = idealistic (doomed) progressive. (Full, free, essential-viewing film <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CanqtDoZZq8&amp;sns=em" rel="nofollow">here</a> &#8211; I jest only slightly).</p>
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		<title>By: fotrkd</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/the-ruin-reservoir/#comment-9641</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 21:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post, along with the this one &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.xenosystems.net/the-idea-of-neoreaction/#more-678&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here,&lt;/a&gt; have been occupying me for a while now, specifically:

&quot;Can-kicking eventually runs out of road, of course, and it&#039;s only when this truism has become an intolerable, deadening drone that neoreaction begins. Anybody who still needs to hear that message &lt;i&gt;is simply lost.&lt;/I&gt; Remedial education cannot be the neoreactionary task...&quot;

Deleuze and Guattari (bear with me) state that, &quot;[y]ou never reach the Body without Organs, you can&#039;t reach it, you are forever attaining it, it is a limit.&quot; It seems to me that the ridiculously high neoreactionary bar (and I think the importance of the neo bit needs repeating -  &quot;It introduces a distinctive idea, or abstract topic: that of a degenerative ratchet&quot;) requires you to both fully comprehend the severity of the task &lt;I&gt;and&lt;/I&gt; wholly commit to it.

Comprehension takes the progressive to the threshold and presents a (perceived) choice; dedication without full comprehension leaves the reactionary in danger (at an anticipated point) of becoming the enemy of neoreaction. Both fail to cross the limit, at some time betraying themselves to either fantasy or power. So how does the progressive overcome their fear of (the forever past) reality or the reactionary their resistance to the absolute future? Presumably only through following and combining both of these two paths to Dark Enlightenment. They become equally necessary (even if they are not necessarily proceeded along concurrently). (In less thought out terminology I would link this to (hermaphroditic) time spirals - linear (progressive) time entwined with the cyclical (reactionary)).

Now to make this more than an exercise in personal clarification, I would suggest this means education is precisely the neoreactionary task (even if it could do without the remedial part). Anyway, just throwing out ideas to keep people busy between now and 2179...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post, along with the this one <a href="http://www.xenosystems.net/the-idea-of-neoreaction/#more-678" rel="nofollow">here,</a> have been occupying me for a while now, specifically:</p>
<p>&#8220;Can-kicking eventually runs out of road, of course, and it&#8217;s only when this truism has become an intolerable, deadening drone that neoreaction begins. Anybody who still needs to hear that message <i>is simply lost.</i> Remedial education cannot be the neoreactionary task&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Deleuze and Guattari (bear with me) state that, &#8220;[y]ou never reach the Body without Organs, you can&#8217;t reach it, you are forever attaining it, it is a limit.&#8221; It seems to me that the ridiculously high neoreactionary bar (and I think the importance of the neo bit needs repeating &#8211;  &#8220;It introduces a distinctive idea, or abstract topic: that of a degenerative ratchet&#8221;) requires you to both fully comprehend the severity of the task <i>and</i> wholly commit to it.</p>
<p>Comprehension takes the progressive to the threshold and presents a (perceived) choice; dedication without full comprehension leaves the reactionary in danger (at an anticipated point) of becoming the enemy of neoreaction. Both fail to cross the limit, at some time betraying themselves to either fantasy or power. So how does the progressive overcome their fear of (the forever past) reality or the reactionary their resistance to the absolute future? Presumably only through following and combining both of these two paths to Dark Enlightenment. They become equally necessary (even if they are not necessarily proceeded along concurrently). (In less thought out terminology I would link this to (hermaphroditic) time spirals &#8211; linear (progressive) time entwined with the cyclical (reactionary)).</p>
<p>Now to make this more than an exercise in personal clarification, I would suggest this means education is precisely the neoreactionary task (even if it could do without the remedial part). Anyway, just throwing out ideas to keep people busy between now and 2179&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/the-ruin-reservoir/#comment-9148</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jul 2013 03:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My heart is with you, but my head is dragging its feet (so to speak).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My heart is with you, but my head is dragging its feet (so to speak).</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/the-ruin-reservoir/#comment-9140</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2013 20:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Summers or Janet Yellen as Fed Chairman?  

We&#039;re getting there fast.

The USSR was NOT in sclerosis for 70 years, not in the State were in for even 7.  

This is summer at Versailles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Summers or Janet Yellen as Fed Chairman?  </p>
<p>We&#8217;re getting there fast.</p>
<p>The USSR was NOT in sclerosis for 70 years, not in the State were in for even 7.  </p>
<p>This is summer at Versailles.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/the-ruin-reservoir/#comment-9139</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2013 20:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Golden Arches Theory of Conflict prevention:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff9T4q2RkVI]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Golden Arches Theory of Conflict prevention:</p>
<p><span class='embed-youtube' style='text-align:center; display: block;'><iframe class='youtube-player' type='text/html' width='640' height='390' src='http://www.youtube.com/embed/Ff9T4q2RkVI?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;wmode=transparent' frameborder='0' allowfullscreen='true'></iframe></span></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[im not so sure anymore as these pre tremors hit the capitalists they seem forced to seek protection from the state empowering it further. the old saying that when a man owes you a thousand you own him but when he owes you a trillion he owns you. what if the state simply refuses to collapse you think JPM can still dictate terms to the cathedral? no JPM will do as its told and it will be allowed to keep playing in return.for a bubble to burst capital must be able to  flee elsewhere there is no elsewhere in the cathedral.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im not so sure anymore as these pre tremors hit the capitalists they seem forced to seek protection from the state empowering it further. the old saying that when a man owes you a thousand you own him but when he owes you a trillion he owns you. what if the state simply refuses to collapse you think JPM can still dictate terms to the cathedral? no JPM will do as its told and it will be allowed to keep playing in return.for a bubble to burst capital must be able to  flee elsewhere there is no elsewhere in the cathedral.</p>
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		<title>By: Orlandu84</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2013 11:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;As world hegemon the USA will crash last, because it has valuable “flight to safety” advantages.&quot;

I agree with the above, but I would like to add one important consideration: the USG has the world&#039;s best nuclear arsenal and standing army. In discussing economic collapse, we must remember that money is not wealth but a medium of exchanging wealth. For the same reason that inflating the money supply does not add wealth, the USG&#039;s economic position is not dependent on its repayment of loans. Since it is the arbiter of loan repayment, it can change the rules to suit itself. Now I will admit that the Cathedral might very well shoot itself in the foot somehow by making it impossible to repay its loans. I find that scenario less than likely though.

The USG has, however, a real problem economically speaking. Typically, having a large army allows an empire to steal all the stuff it needs. Need some coal? Go occupy a mountain of coal somewhere. Unfortunately, the USG has so many commitments (i.e. bribes/costs) that it cannot ever hope to steal all the stuff it needs without fiat currency. When a currency collapse sets in, the USG will loose an important leverage tool.  For number games with money only requires a few hundred or thousand &quot;experts&quot;; taking the wheat, the oil, and the steal your need requires millions of troops. Still, having a well trained and loyal armed force will allow the USG to thrive for a while after any monetary collapse. It might even improve its relative position. Long term survival would be very difficult since the hinterlands of America and the world would quickly adapt to such obvious theft.  

tl;dr version: Monetary collapse only begins the final chapter of the Cathedral. When its military can&#039;t steal enough to feed itself will be its actual end.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As world hegemon the USA will crash last, because it has valuable “flight to safety” advantages.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with the above, but I would like to add one important consideration: the USG has the world&#8217;s best nuclear arsenal and standing army. In discussing economic collapse, we must remember that money is not wealth but a medium of exchanging wealth. For the same reason that inflating the money supply does not add wealth, the USG&#8217;s economic position is not dependent on its repayment of loans. Since it is the arbiter of loan repayment, it can change the rules to suit itself. Now I will admit that the Cathedral might very well shoot itself in the foot somehow by making it impossible to repay its loans. I find that scenario less than likely though.</p>
<p>The USG has, however, a real problem economically speaking. Typically, having a large army allows an empire to steal all the stuff it needs. Need some coal? Go occupy a mountain of coal somewhere. Unfortunately, the USG has so many commitments (i.e. bribes/costs) that it cannot ever hope to steal all the stuff it needs without fiat currency. When a currency collapse sets in, the USG will loose an important leverage tool.  For number games with money only requires a few hundred or thousand &#8220;experts&#8221;; taking the wheat, the oil, and the steal your need requires millions of troops. Still, having a well trained and loyal armed force will allow the USG to thrive for a while after any monetary collapse. It might even improve its relative position. Long term survival would be very difficult since the hinterlands of America and the world would quickly adapt to such obvious theft.  </p>
<p>tl;dr version: Monetary collapse only begins the final chapter of the Cathedral. When its military can&#8217;t steal enough to feed itself will be its actual end.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2013 06:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fiction is probably the best vehicle for that -- a new Heinlein.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fiction is probably the best vehicle for that &#8212; a new Heinlein.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2013 06:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[-- reluctantly agreed. Argentina is a great example of what you say, still somehow afloat, despite chronic textbook abuses of economic reality. 
As world hegemon the USA will crash last, because it has valuable &quot;flight to safety&quot; advantages in addition to the remaining reserves in its ruin reservoir. 
Europe first, then Japan, then the USA. 
Globally, Latin America might be Europe to the disaster line, India is so chaotic no one would know if it had fallen into disaster or not, and China is still on a secular upswing, so even a serious stumble there would just be a correction (which it needs). The Middle East, of course, is just toast floating on non-depleted oil fields.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8211; reluctantly agreed. Argentina is a great example of what you say, still somehow afloat, despite chronic textbook abuses of economic reality.<br />
As world hegemon the USA will crash last, because it has valuable &#8220;flight to safety&#8221; advantages in addition to the remaining reserves in its ruin reservoir.<br />
Europe first, then Japan, then the USA.<br />
Globally, Latin America might be Europe to the disaster line, India is so chaotic no one would know if it had fallen into disaster or not, and China is still on a secular upswing, so even a serious stumble there would just be a correction (which it needs). The Middle East, of course, is just toast floating on non-depleted oil fields.</p>
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