Comments on: Twisted Times (Part 1) http://www.xenosystems.net/twisted-times-part-1/ Involvements with reality Thu, 05 Feb 2015 06:56:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1 By: northanger http://www.xenosystems.net/twisted-times-part-1/#comment-15 Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:40:41 +0000 http://www.xenosystems.net/?p=10#comment-15 Without the Power of the Italic it’s impossible to discern the deeper connection between Horselover Fat, the amphidemons and 273d-e. So I’ll leave you to it.

]]> By: admin http://www.xenosystems.net/twisted-times-part-1/#comment-14 Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:15:20 +0000 http://www.xenosystems.net/?p=10#comment-14 @northanger
Just as long as massive, multi-comment, qabbalistic explorations unfold in all their magnificent immensity over at the other place, we’re cool … :)

[PS VL really stinks as a platform, now that I’ve been spoiled by this … linkage all but impossible, no italics … it’s horrible … might have to move]

]]> By: northanger http://www.xenosystems.net/twisted-times-part-1/#comment-13 Tue, 19 Feb 2013 04:41:35 +0000 http://www.xenosystems.net/?p=10#comment-13 Don’t worry. I shan’t mention any connection between a wrinkle in time, pacta dæmoniorum and skillful means here. No, not me.

]]> By: admin http://www.xenosystems.net/twisted-times-part-1/#comment-12 Tue, 19 Feb 2013 04:31:20 +0000 http://www.xenosystems.net/?p=10#comment-12 @northanger
I’ll treat that as a nudge to get VL back into operation … (this afternoon?)

]]> By: northanger http://www.xenosystems.net/twisted-times-part-1/#comment-9 Tue, 19 Feb 2013 02:18:25 +0000 http://www.xenosystems.net/?p=10#comment-9 commentocalypse?

]]> By: admin http://www.xenosystems.net/twisted-times-part-1/#comment-8 Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:24:02 +0000 http://www.xenosystems.net/?p=10#comment-8 @Thales
I kinda sorta agree with that, except that time-travel scenarios impose their own logic on narrative structures, even when ‘risibly’ executed. For instance, the duplication of people through time-travel, which is the real core of the Looper plot, reveals something important about the implications of a certain twisted-time model. Hardly new of course (again, Primer does it better, if — or rather, because — less dramatically), but once time-travel is involved, novelty can be hard to find.

@Vimothy
Oh yes, oh yes …

]]> By: vimothy http://www.xenosystems.net/twisted-times-part-1/#comment-7 Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:49:29 +0000 http://www.xenosystems.net/?p=10#comment-7 Excellent! The comments section already feels like a massive improvement over Urban Future.

]]> By: Thales http://www.xenosystems.net/twisted-times-part-1/#comment-6 Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:41:48 +0000 http://www.xenosystems.net/?p=10#comment-6 As Sailer notes, Looper isn’t sci-fi, it’s comic book — identity-driven. Risible tech like The Matrix, but when viewed in relationship to the culture that produced it, revealing.

]]> By: admin http://www.xenosystems.net/twisted-times-part-1/#comment-5 Sun, 17 Feb 2013 16:38:39 +0000 http://www.xenosystems.net/?p=10#comment-5 @hallisfrumpton
OK, but this isn’t just talking cinematic narrative incoherence, it’s historical narrative incoherence. Solid stuff comes first though (thermodynamics and cybernetics) — I’ll bend into a pretzel to try and keep it lively.
Delighted to hear that your cockles are cooking :)

]]> By: admin http://www.xenosystems.net/twisted-times-part-1/#comment-4 Sun, 17 Feb 2013 16:35:03 +0000 http://www.xenosystems.net/?p=10#comment-4 @richeyrw
Recommend that you see Looper? — Sure. Its schlocky and ridiculous, but there’s plenty of interesting stuff there. The future Shanghai scenes (Pudong) are fantastic. Best Shanghai SF movie to date.

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