Twitter Cut

@Outsideness has been zapped by Twitter without any explanation (as of yet). It’s probably a useful hint that it’s past time to look more diligently for a censorship-resistant platform.

This prompted me to give minds.com a look. It’s still in beta, and will probably take a while to get used to, but there’s an @Outsideness account now if anyone’s tempted to experiment with exodus.

I’ve had trouble getting through to Gab.ai (might be a VPN / China Internet issue).

We’ll have Urbit eventually.

ADDED: I haven’t sought out a fight with Twitter, but had I done so it’s hard to imagine there could have been a way to hurt it more than getting Outsideness banned in this way. There’s simply no possible case to be made that this is about ‘abuse’. There has been nothing remotely like harassment in the history of the account. It’s naked thought control. The platform is an undisguised leftist ideological operation. First it collapses down to a partisan bubble with zero credibility beyond its own constituency. Then it dies.

ADDED: Twitter @Outsideness restored this morning. No explanation (or communication from Twitter of any kind) about what just happened. The word that comes to mind for this kind of arbitrary aggressive behavior is abuse.

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  • D. Says:

    Twitter is a sewer, as is all social media. Rather than look for new social media “web 2.0” platforms, it would be better for all true thinkers to return to “web 1.0” platforms under their own control.

    There are several crucial differences between what, for lack of a better term, I refer to as “web 1.0” and “web 2.0” platforms, but perhaps the most crucial is decentralization before centralization. Social media is dependent on a handful of network monopolies that will inevitably impose censorship at the behest of the Cathedral.

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    grey enlightenment Reply:

    the problem is web hosting and domain requires upkeep, and people get lazy. if you let the domain lapse, you’re screwed . WordPress and blogger are pretty good at not deleting accounts

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    D. Reply:

    It requires a trivial amount of upkeep, merely paying for website registration and hosting, which can be performed n advance.

    Also, to be clear, I consider blogging to be a “web 1.0” application, but here there is greater danger from the use of services such as WordPress and Blogger that provide a combination of blogging functionality and hosting, since it can be more difficult to transfer your posts (and comments) to a different service. In fact, Blogger is owned by Google, and they’ve been known to ban blogs without justification other than what admin has just termed “though control”; my favorite Israeli blog was recently banned by them.

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    akarlin Reply:

    I agree – this would be for the best.

    the problem is web hosting and domain requires upkeep

    Really man, one hour a year (all it takes ultimately) is a strain on one’s time and energy? If so I would question if such a person actually has anything worthwhile to say.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    /pol/ is always right. So is Deus Ex.

    Amazing post.

    I used to have a relatively popular social media account. God knows what the benefits weren’t. I had a lady begin to divorce her husband for me, whom I met through that account. I secured dates, I had pretty pictures of myself, women commenting on my beauty. lol

    I had AI researchers commenting, product developers, ordinary joes, occultists, New Agers, hippies, Nazis, Leftists, locally famous people, kids, grandmothers, journalists.

    But I have anxiety disorder and underlying misanthropy so I couldn’t, or at least didn’t, make as much use of all these connections and influence as I sort of wanted, so I started ruining this image I had built up. By posting about immigrants n sheeit (I guess terrorism triggered me). And I said the Holocaust was exaggerated. One day when I logged on it asked for a scan of my ID to prove who I am.

    Haven’t logged on since.

    That was before I started posting here.

    Being able to game and influence people on that only increased my misanthropy. I’ve felt like I was in a virtual reality since I was a teenager.

    Being able to meme people into shit just reminds me of how different I am.

    » What!? Everything is merely—human—all too human? With this exclamation my writings are gone through, not without a certain dread and mistrust of ethic itself and not without a disposition to ask the exponent of evil things if those things be not simply misrepresented. My writings have been termed a school of distrust, still more of disdain: also, and more happily, of courage, audacity even. And in fact, I myself do not believe that anybody ever looked into the world with a distrust as deep as mine, seeming, as I do, not simply the timely advocate of the devil, but, to employ theological terms, an enemy and challenger of God; and whosoever has experienced any of the consequences of such deep distrust, anything of the chills[6] and the agonies of isolation to which such an unqualified difference of standpoint condemns him endowed with it, will also understand how often I must have sought relief and self-forgetfulness from any source—through any object of veneration or enmity, of scientific seriousness or wanton lightness; also why I, when I could not find what I was in need of, had to fashion it for myself, counterfeiting it or imagining it (and what poet or writer has ever done anything else, and what other purpose can all the art in the world possibly have?) That which I always stood most in need of in order to effect my cure and self-recovery was faith, faith enough not to be thus isolated, not to look at life from so singular a point of view—a magic apprehension (in eye and mind) of relationship and equality, a calm confidence in friendship, a blindness, free from suspicion and questioning, to two sidedness; a pleasure in externals, superficialities, the near, the accessible, in all things possessed of color, skin and seeming. Perhaps I could be fairly reproached with much “art” in this regard, many fine counterfeitings; for example, that, wisely or wilfully, I had shut my eyes to Schopenhauer’s blind will towards ethic, at a time when I was already clear sighted enough on the subject of ethic; likewise that I had deceived myself concerning Dick Wagner’s incurable romanticism,[7] as if it were a beginning and not an end; likewise concerning the Greeks, likewise concerning the Germans and their future—and there may be, perhaps, a long list of such likewises. Granted, however, that all this were true, and with justice urged against me, what does it signify, what can it signify in regard to how much of the self-sustaining capacity, how much of reason and higher protection are embraced in such self-deception?—and how much more falsity is still necessary to me that I may therewith always reassure myself regarding the luxury of my truth. Enough, I still live; and life is not considered now apart from ethic; it will [have] deception; it thrives (lebt) on deception … but am I not beginning to do all over again what I have always done, I, the old immoralist, and bird snarer—talk unmorally, ultramorally, “beyond good and evil”?
    2

    Thus, then, have I evolved for myself the “free spirits” to whom this discouraging-encouraging work, under the general title “Human, All Too Human,” is dedicated. Such “free spirits” do not really exist and never did exist. But I stood in need of them, as I have pointed out, in order that some good might be mixed with my[8] evils (illness, loneliness, strangeness, acedia, incapacity): to serve as gay spirits and comrades, with whom one may talk and laugh when one is disposed to talk and laugh, and whom one may send to the devil when they grow wearisome. They are some compensation for the lack of friends. That such free spirits can possibly exist, that our Europe will yet number among her sons of to-morrow or of the day after to-morrow, such a brilliant and enthusiastic company, alive and palpable and not merely, as in my case, fantasms and imaginary shades, I, myself, can by no means doubt. I see them already coming, slowly, slowly. »

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Best clear that up, I refused to bed that lady because she was married. So she wanted to divorce her husband and left him, so she could be with me. She’s American and was willing to pay for all expenses of me moving to her.

    I’ve never seen anyone use a social media account like I did. (I’m not referring to that case above.) It’s a story in an of itself. But I tell ya, these things can be immensely powerful.

    This was Facebook. It has some deeply interesting groups. And talents. Something about Twitter feels more conceited. Trendy.

    But I’m not in the same mental state as I was during my Facebook years, nor have I put anything close to the effort I put into F, nor does my Twitter account have any of the real world contacts I had for F, so maybe my experience doesn’t compare. I was a liberal at the time. A feminist too. I didn’t have a meltdown, but people noted I went extreme. This was before Trump. I guess I picked up on the wave that was coming.

    Since Paris’ youth is already 25% Muslim ; it seems liberalism isn’t working. I don’t necessarily have much more against Islam than Christianity, as a traditional religion like it was in their golden age. I would even join it, but I’m not too keen on learning Arabic (I’m an indoeuropeanist, not by choice but disposition). I frankly don’t mind Europe having some multi-cultural cities, but what has been happening is too much of the bad stuff. Also I don’t want to see the First World to become more like the Third World. Sorry, but that’s the trends in history when immigration is out of bounds.

    OK, I’m not too keen on bending my butt up in the air to pray 5 times per day either. But maybe I should. I don’t know what Land’s solution to Western-below-replacement-rate is, if any. Can’t say I’m exactly a White Nationalist, but at least the British Empire wasn’t feminist and operated women to bear children so there actually was another generation of British people to have said British Empire.

    Frankly, I don’t mind anarcho-capitalism as I’m an inheritor of land & business. I don’t want to trample the working class, I believe they’d have it better if they were taught capitalism and small business in school, rather than outdated subjects. Call me a Bannonist.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Maybe I should have mentioned the healthcare sciences professionals which I interacted with too, to, as it were, impress poor conceited Cryptodysgen.

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  • yado Says:

    Respect to Twitter for the entrepreneurial maneuvers they’ve made throughout their existence. Bravo fellas.

    That said, they’re far from brilliant people overall. Gab is ugly and really not very “cool” – Twitter is not that great. It never has been. 150 letters? It’s stupid. It always has been stupid. Sure it’s “fun” and addicting blah blah blah. It’s not smart though. The people who use it the most are not exactly brilliant. No offense cause you guys seem to use it a lot.

    I’m just saying another service could be superior because Twitter’s entire brand is based off of their brilliance or innovation etc … they aren’t. They’re lucky, opportunistic entrepreneurs and business people who managed to hype their idea to some kind of ideal. Anyone could do that. They’re better corporate thinkers than innovators.

    Anyone could do what they do… the business side is the hard part. The money.

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    Alrenous Reply:

    This made me realize Twitter is quite correct when they accuse right wingers of harassment. The point of Twitter is to harass the outgroup. On Gab, no outgroup to harass.

    Ironically this is why Twitter is killing itself. For a while, being purged will be the ultimate harassment. Then it will be done, and both Gab and Twitter will be ‘echochambers’ with no outgroups to harass.

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    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    As a reinforcement chamber though, Gab is pretty nice. I rather enjoy the calm and serenity.

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    Alrenous Reply:

    IMO harassing the outgroup is dumb. Genocide or shut up and mind your own business.

    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    I would have agreed, but I’ve been reconsidering that. Sometimes an outgroup to fight ritually over is important, in order to create boundaries which define the ingroup.

    Alrenous Reply:

    Humans are dumb? Sure, I can agree with that.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Nah, there are enough apparent outgroups to have wars. Internecine religious and Leftist ones, e.g., and music fans.

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    Alrenous Reply:

    So it will be Myspace. Therefore, Myspace isn’t dead?

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Twitter is not gonna be MySpace just because it boots some of the tiny NRx/Alt-Right community. Other factors would have to come into play.

    https://twitter.com/AngloRemnant/status/834330407957053440

    collen ryan Reply:

    THE CHAN I UNDERSTAND WAS ONCE FREE AND NO MORE SUCCESS MAKES IT A TARGET AS I HAVE SAID FOR YEARS JOB ONE IS AN IMPOSSIBLE TO DEFEAT OPEN SOURCE SOC COM TECH WHILE ITS STILL POSSIBLE TO PUT STEAL ENOUGH PEOPLE TO MAKE IT UBIQUITOUS

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    Aaron Reply:

    @Alrenous

    Movement conservatives will stick around and they can get back to doing what they do best: losing.

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    Alrenous Reply:

    Ah. Fair point.

    pyrrhus Reply:

    Gab doesn’t censor anyone, and allows more characters, hence it will ultimately be far superior to the SJW ruled Twitter. Twitter will go out of business one of these days, since it is burning cash in large amounts and driving away customers…

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    Orthodox Reply:

    Learn Chinese and post on Weibo. You’re only likely to be censored because your pro-Xi pro-crackdown praise is deemed a bit gauche.

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    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    That made me laugh quite a bit. Well played, sir.

    squf Reply:

    This is a pretty good post, but Twitter is in my estimation probably backed by some governmental arm or another for network monitoring of badthink and so on. Its not that they are entrepreneurial savants or whatever, its that they don’t ever have to care about their stock price. This platform and probably every other large Silicon Valley platform is fully backed by the Cathedral and shall continue in perpetuity despite how in the red they are — at least until some better method pops up to replace it.

    But, maybe I’m just being paranoid.

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  • yado Says:

    I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest that there are some major coincidences taking place right now that cannot be ignored.

    I read on the Amerika blog that an art gallery in London was “exposed” and throttled for putting up work of a sort of reactionary interest. From what I know doing an Audiobook on Jack is that this guy is… quirky. He’s actually kind of a pathetic sort of attention drain who loves being seen as the “counter culture guy.” Seriously.

    I mean that’s why I kind of respect them, far from being your straight edge corporate types of people… I don’t think Jack is the kind of person who goes to the left due to any specific belief. I think he went to it because it seemed hot, fast, and cool. And that image is falling apart right…about…NOW.

    Art, cultural heads like Sargon, and philosophers like you represent threats to the left’s cultural aesthetic. It’s been gone a long time. It’s just that it’s really becoming apparent to these people now. They’re seeing it, also coinciding with Milo+Maher. Our little counter-culture shindig is becoming mainstream. It’s no doubt that suddenly Jack who has seen himself as a counter-cultural authority may find himself feeling threatened in that sense.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Something that combines the anonymity of http://8ch.net with the dynamics of Twitter.com would be interesting.

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    pyrrhus Reply:

    The Left is jumping the shark all over the place….excellent!

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    Peter A. Taylor Reply:

    SpiderGawd writes,

    “Much of the support for Progressive/Left policies among ordinary people was actually quite shallow. It was essentially fashion. In practical effect talking the talk was all that was truly required in order to be one of the cool kids. Simply pretend that you are a secular version of Jesus who believes in sharing and helping all the oppressed little people of da whirl with the added bonus of being able to openly hate anyone who didn’t….

    And todays fads and fashions can shift dramatically with little or no warning. Culture roots deep, but fashions are just a coating of cheap water soluble paint. Its always a mistake to confuse one with the other.”

    https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/02/02/cant-close/#comment-3135948622

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    Ur-mail Reply:

    I have a family member who worked closely with Jack from a director-level position for years, and while they worked with him they described him as more or less an egoistic douche. He had to surround himself by people who fawned over him (he was the boss so they were also highly incentivized to do so and make it feel authentic). He was constantly rotating people in and out of his inner circle based on their adoration which produced the expected crabs in a bucket mentality among executives and director-level employees. This would perhaps be genius if it were a conscious tactic rather than a symptom.

    Jack’s left-wing adoption strikes me as coming from this place. Leftism is easy, it’s everywhere, if you live in California you’ve basically been hammered with it your whole life. Told that going all in on Leftism is how you become a hero/martyr and die with a pure soul. Because Leftist activism now poses a fairly serious risk of loss and/or litigation, all of Silicon Valley/SF has more or less been dragged into fervent Leftism (whether authentic or feigned) as a matter of self-preservation. He’s a Leftist because it’s easy, safe, and he thinks it’s the quickest way into a history book.

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    Anon Reply:

    >all of Silicon Valley/SF has more or less been dragged into fervent Leftism (whether authentic or feigned)

    From direct observation it’s feigned; completely opportunistic, at least coming from those who have actual skin in the game.

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    Posted on February 24th, 2017 at 9:53 am Reply | Quote
  • Mason Masters Says:

    I feel minds.com is the more appropriate platform.

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    Posted on February 24th, 2017 at 10:02 am Reply | Quote
  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    admin, the ‘s’ is missing from the link in your post.

    Anyway,

    http://www.minds.com/gothericson

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    admin Reply:

    Thanks (fixed, and linkified).

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  • Post Alley Crackpot Says:

    I enjoyed it immensely when Twitter’s algorithm rolled out the auto-da-fé for Jack Dorsey back in November …

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  • Brett Stevens Says:

    In my view, the solution is to decentralize.

    We do not need new social media; we need someplace to post links, and then create the discussion on the individual sites/blogs, possibly with an archiving service so that if someone ragequits or flakes out the past content is preserved.

    That would be closer to the original idea of hypertext, the internet, Xanadu, etc.

    Centralized media places too much control in the hands of a few whose self-interest conflicts with the interest we have in having a public space with open discussion. I offer instead the idea of a patchwork.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    https://8ch.net/aristoi/index.html

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Aw man, it’s been hacked.

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    grey enlightenment Reply:

    archive.org ..they have FTP servers

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  • Post Alley Crackpot Says:

    We need new anti-social media.

    Only then will we be satisfied that our schadenfreude isn’t really schadenfraud instead.

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  • itsuki arbol Says:

    You may be interested.
    The econ-history book on wars, plague, violence, revolutions, (and equality).
    The Great Leveler: Violence and the History of Inequality from the Stone Age to the Twenty-First Century
    http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10921.html

    A fundamental change can be achieved only through thermonuclear apocalypse!

    Quote:
    “””
    Much the same would be true of wars that involved the limited tactical use of small-scale nuclear devices. Only all-out thermonuclear war might fundamentally reset the existing distribution of resources. If escalation could be contained at a point where public institutions are still functioning and sufficient amounts of critical infrastructure remain intact, governments and military authorities would freeze wages, prices, and rents; block non-essential withdrawals from banks; impose a comprehensive rationing system for food; requisition needed goods; adopt forms of central planning, including the centralized allocation of scarce resources in favor of the war effort, government operations, and the production of survival items essential to survival; assign housing; and possibly even resort to forced labor. In American planning for the “Day After,” the sharing of war losses throughout the economy has long been a key policy goal. Any strategic-level exchange of nuclear warheads between major powers would wipe out physical capital on a vast scale and wreck financial markets. The most likely outcome would be not only a dramatic fall in GDP but also an equalizing rebalancing of the available resources and a shift from capital to labor.
    “””

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    The Great Leveler: Violence

    This is why (anarcho-)capitalists have a Non-Aggression Principle.

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    Alrenous Reply:

    The NAP is magical pixie dust.

    Secure your shit.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Nah, it’s just morality put into new words.

    » Had such an observer studied the character of the Highlanders, he would doubtless have found in it closely intermingled the good and the bad qualities of an uncivilised nation. He would have found that the people had no love for their country or for their king; that they had no attachment to any commonwealth larger than the clan, or to any magistrate superior to the chief. He would have found that life was governed by a code of morality and honour widely different from that which is established in peaceful and prosperous societies. He would have learned that a stab in the back, or a shot from behind a fragment of rock, were approved modes of taking satisfaction for insults. He would have heard men relate boastfully how they or their fathers had wreaked on hereditary enemies in a neighbouring valley such vengeance as would have made old soldiers of the Thirty Years’ War shudder. He would have found that robbery was held to be a calling, not merely innocent, but honourable. He would have seen, wherever he turned, that dislike of steady industry, and that disposition to throw on the weaker sex the heaviest part of manual labour, which are characteristic of savages. He would have been struck by the spectacle of athletic men basking in the sun, angling for salmon, or taking aim at grouse, while their aged mothers, their pregnant wives, their tender daughters, were reaping the scanty harvest of oats. Nor did the women repine at their hard lot. In their view it was quite fit that a man, especially if he assumed the aristocratic title of Duinhe Wassel and adorned his bonnet with the eagle’s feather, should take his ease, except when he was fighting, hunting, or marauding. To mention the name of such a man in connection with commerce or with any mechanical art was an insult. Agriculture was indeed less despised. Yet a highborn warrior was much more becomingly employed in plundering the land of others than in tilling his own. »
    https://salo-forum.com/index.php?threads/origins-of-aristocratic-contempt-for-labor.3428/

    You see, we don’t go on Viking raids anymore because of a new morality.

    Too bad we took it too far and started excusing crimes and stupidity because the perpetrators happen to be brown people.

    The NAP is just a new formalisation of such a moral (‘more’ means ‘custom’) improvement. It’s not gonna work like magic dust, but with time we might adapt into it. But of course, — do secure your shit!

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  • AugustusPugin Says:

    I’ve been telling everybody to use GNU Social for the longest time and people still don’t care. Federated decentralized networks are better than recreating centralized control Twitter with a shitlord makeover a la GAB.

    https://social.heldscal.la/ and https://shitposter.club are my favorite instances so far. (Every available instance here: https://social.guhnoo.org/) All instances can talk to each other if they so wish (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1lYU5CA40o). In the long run Urbit but it will be years before it’s useful enough to see adoption.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Can you link us to some good threads? Like the best.

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    Hegemonizing Swarm Reply:

    Yes, GNU social seems promising. There has been a recent peak in interest with Mastodon.

    Centrally controlled large-scale social media sites have turned out to be a bad idea, even in the case they have no ideology of themselves, groups that vigorously complain en-masse have been shown to have much power by affecting automatic moderation algorithms.

    GNU social also has its problems (“who federates with whom?” political games) but at least exit is easy.

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  • drytreemadonna Says:

    You were the best acct on Twitter. Hope it gets overturned

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    Wagner Reply:

    Yup, best acct on Twitter. Site’s like a lobotomy patient now.

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  • collen ryan Says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I TOLD YA SO you cucked yourself for nothing we are all nazis now HEIL HITLER HERR LAND

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  • spirit Says:

    @AugustusPugin I agree with GNUsoc, federalization is better. Good community with a decent amount of variation. I had a soykaf account until it got closed down and now I’m really considering making one again on another server with this whole banning fiasco.

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  • Cryptogenic Says:

    Remember this Change.org petition demanding Twitter deliver “500 Nazi Scaps”? https://www.change.org/p/500-nazi-scalps

    Outsideness is potential scalp #147.

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  • Ur-mail Says:

    WTF they just brought your Twitter account back?

    https://twitter.com/Outsideness

    Maybe you were just in timeout?

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    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    NRX lives yet.

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  • Cryptogenic Says:

    If you didn’t believe in Kek before now …

    “You are the God who performs miracles; you display your power among the peoples.” Tendies 77:14

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  • Wagner Says:

    Jack and his band of warty little dwarves are trying to DE-FANG you, don’t let them win! They’re trying to psyops you toward left-domestication. Keep shitting on their rug like you were never wapped with their rolled-up fakenewspaper.

    And let’s not pretend that “politely” and “civilly” shitting on their rug changes the fact you’ve been.. shitting on their rug. They were strategically braindead to wait this long to play this card. Don’t call it “abuse”, that’s one of those quaint British things you say, it’s weak. Italicize the word “shitstains” next time you get that impulse. It’s not abuse, it’s shitstains.

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    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    HBD probably makes his British soul only shine every more bright under the slights of the unwashed masses. Tea and all helps reinforce it.

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    Wagner Reply:

    Daniel, you’re being complicit in this filing-down-of-the-fangs conspiracy against Land. Michael and I = trying to sharpen them. Anyway, isn’t the stereotype that brits have bad teeth? (Erikson what was it Baudrillard said about American teeth? LOL).

    I was in Walmart the other day–recurrently contemplating Eugenics, naturally–and a Chinese girl passed in front of me and bowed her head. I like when Chinese girls do that tbQh but Confucius’s inculcation of submissiveness has affected even the men – in this respect the Chinese could learn from Islam even better than the West: wrathfulness is a virtue. You think you’re being paradoxical by being a tough-guy to advocate nice-guyism, funny, I throw the East a bone, but what is proper here is to be a tough-guy to advocate for tough-guyism. Quit trying to turn Land into a chink like you.

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    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    Well, surely said inculcation of submission would have surely affected me to be unable to do anything but to advocate for what little I know. Culture and genetics and all that.

    At any rate, I do agree that wrathfulness can be a virtue. Long stretches of peace and civility can be dysgenic, and surely has led to the downfall of the East before. But I do not think, as a whole, we entirely lack the capacity for recognizing injustice and moving to correct it. For example, there is some historical wrongs that we are correcting in the South China Sea as we speak.

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  • execrablefrippery Says:

    @CryptogenicIt’s not just Nazi scalps—there’s the intraspecific competition & mobbing that the ratchet demands. Fuck Theory’s twitter was suspended, same day as admin’s, second time in 10 days. Left as Cthulhu’s sea lane, but he tweeted “the education that has been offered in the academic humanities for the last few decades is inseparable from the nihilistic rot of the left” the day before his suspension.

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  • Post Alley Crackpot Says:

    “I do not come back to Twitter to celebrate you, but to bury you.”

    Crank up the “Fanfare for the Common Man” and let this son-of-a-bitch burn.

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  • collen ryan Says:

    But but some of admins best friends are jews and admin doesnt hate blacks just niggers and he’s really really clear most whites are niggers.
    admins a good elitist a multiculturalist elitist.hes not against Davos per se,he just feels he should be in charge of Davos.
    Exit is just another word for south of france.Remember therewas a black guy, a gay woman,a fag and a and a towel head up on Elysium, thats all hes talking about. its not Discrimination its discrimination, surely you see the difference.
    Really you should let him back in your club hes not an actor hes a star Philosopher !
    Loose lips sink spaceships, you really should have kept your thoughts to drunken whispers at cocktail parties, first rule of elite club dont talk about elite club.

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  • Cryptogenic Says:

    @Wagner

    Did you contemplate why you were in a Wal-Mart? Or why Erikson has to couch surf?

    And I recall Daniel mentioning being a six figure earner. I’m an MD. It’s not merely a financial split, of course, but anyone sufficiently cold can see where your salt stems from. In other words, you need to know your place.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    I don’t “have to” couch surf. I’ve chosen to.

    What are you replying to anyway? We all know you are vain and morally bereft, but do you seriously belief your choices of education and workplace make you superior?

    You are certainly not smarter than either me or Wagner. I can read at least 6 languages at a professional level. Dozens at lower levels.

    I could be a doctor if I wanted.

    You however, I’ve yet to see what’s supposed to make you different from a relatively normie and average racist Neoconservative, if anything. Nothing.

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    Cryptogenic Reply:

    The point is, when you are posting 16 hours a day and not getting sufficient attention, so you turn on the host, or crank up the word length, one wonders about your station in life/clinical status. Too cold? dealwithitdog.gif

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Idk, if ur addressing me or Wagner with that, but do you realise how many intelligent and influential people in the past had abnormal clinical status, as it were?

    It’s a particularly moderno-bureaucratic view to expect everyone to fit the mold.

    If you don’t like some of Wagner’s posting, you’ll certainly not improve it by trying to imply he’s hopeless.

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    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    That doesn’t seem as consistent with the principles of noblesse oblige as it could be.

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    Cryptogenic Reply:

    I am American after all. I don’t typically read your (Erikson’s) posts, nor Wagner’s — I have a post-blocking script, and who the fuck has time for “Let me use the comments section as my own diary”? — nor am I down on the mentally ill, which is comorbid with high IQ, and which makes me less than sanguine on the prospect of edited-up IQ. I just think it’s retarded to shitpost thousands of words and pick fights with the host, especially in a place with otherwise excellent insight from other bloggers — all of whom work STEM jobs. Unfortunately there are a few quantity-over-quality parasites. It just reeks of missed potential, incel, underdevelopment, underemployment, massive frustration.

    I’m a lurker because my energies lie elsewhere. I wish yours did.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    That’s the third time you advertise that you “don’t read my posts” but you apparently do.

    It’s Land’s thing what he allows here, why do you consistently complain about it if you don’t even read those posts? Maybe because I shamed you when you used ad hominem fallacy. Truly, my comments are not really worse than anyone else’s here. You’re not as cold or rational as you think you are, conceited man. As for Wagner, I was being made fun of for lumping him and you here, together, originally — because I thought you were the troll and had decided to play another character under the name ‘Wagner’ — but now you lump me and him.

    I’m off to my Russian-practice lessons.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    I mean, wasted talent, who cares? There’s billions of people in a worse situation than me. lol

    Aren’t you also an atheist? If you’re just gonna fade to black during death, why does anything matter?

    I don’t worry too often about my prospects. Certainly, I’ve been rather fortunate with little effort.

    Things really are different today. This ain’t Dickensian England. You can be a wasto until you start babbling off on a Youtube channel and become world-famous. https://youtu.be/sTCDfE_sKnM

    Wagner Reply:

    Why would I become a doctor when I can read forbidden old books all day instead?

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    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    Power over life and death is not merely trivial.

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    Wagner Reply:

    Dan I’d rather die in a ditch than subordinate to the Cathedral. I had the opportunity to study comparative philosophy at the grad level (believe it or not I am an admirer of Eastern thought) but I don’t know how one can read Moldbug and Land (not to mention NEETzsche) and not feel dirty assimilating into the academic ranks. The only thing I regret about my life choice is I’m not able to afford expensive books or a sensory deprivation chamber. Well, taking shit from Company Men from time to time can get a little annoying too.

    Crypt, I was just at a farmer’s market and thought of you: I thought “wow, I’d rather hang out with a guy like crypt than these hippies!” So at least you got that goin for ya buddy. You ought to unblock michael/collen ryan, he’s been saying some things you probably don’t want to hear but should.

    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    Isolation from the sinful world is certainly an option, and has been honorably practiced by hermits past and present. But to bear with the slings and arrows of the world can afford one also the opportunity to build up the resources to challenge and damage the foundations of the Cathedral itself, and to rescue others who would be integrated otherwise into the machine.

    Being a doctor and having money to funnel causes that undermine the Cathedral is pretty cool. I can testify.

    Cryptogenic Reply:

    Then you know about ressentiment and how it manifests. Or maybe you don’t. All indications point to the latter.

    Being a physician can be ascetic to a pretty extreme degree, especially in residency.

    Wagner Reply:

    I side with the Mahayanas regarding the question of whether or not one should seek enlightenment at the expense of other beings, but the problem is that not many come out alive after being baptized into shitlibbism. Are there lots of docs like you or have I simply not been invited to the right cocktail parties? Because in my experience the elders who have offered me guidance like yours have been shills trying to direct me down the shill path they took themselves. The problem is that to get in one must become a fluent liar, and eventually one ends up believing the lies. You and crypt are a cut above the rest but it’s clear to me that you’re both compromised in ways that are likely irrevocable. But hey, what matters my opinion, I go to Walmart to buy an HDMI cord after all–I picked up underwear there too in fact; you guys may be sitting there in your fine silk undies but at least I’m able to be honest. Maybe one day I’ll take the communi(sm)on wafer but for now I’m in a formative stage of my development and don’t want to be tainted.

    “I am attempting to be helpful to those who are worthy of being introduced to the study of philosophy in an opportune and serious manner. This attempt may or may not be successful, and I am only too well aware that it can be outstripped; and there is nothing I desire more, for the good of that philosophy, than to be imitated and surpassed.
    Those who might want to attempt this would be well advised to read Plato and not to place their trust in the guidance of any of those professional academic philosophers.
    Above all, they should unlearn all kinds of nonsense and become simple and natural.
    Danger of falling into the wrong hands.”

    note from NEET’s Untimely Meditations period

    Wagner Reply:

    I’m sure it is ascetic, and every society needs Eryximachuses. But Socrates walked around barefoot and in rags. Not everyone has the same role model I guess.

    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    @Wagnar

    The lies are by nature, weaker than the truth. So as long as you have awareness of the truth, being immersed in a pozzed environment won’t convert you. It’ll probably piss you off significantly, as it does to me, but ultimately most liberal ideas just won’t be able to get through since you’re a relative sane individual.

    I mean, once you realize that people don’t come from a blank state, then that basically dismisses the premise for any other liberal argument. The infection can only spread insofar as you accept it if it benefits you personally, but not being female or a NAM, I can’t quite see that happening to you or me.

    Cryptogenic Reply:

    I don’t know what sort of doctor Daniel is, but the sort I am brings me into intimate contact with reality and fosters extreme reductionism, mostly to avoid wasting time. That is, to me you’re just a type. Nick Land, to use the nearest example, is on the other hand an unclassifiable.

    If you’ve been listening to Jordan Petterson’s lectures you’ll know that your identity — which you seem highly concerned with — is a negotiation with others. If your parents never eased you into this public negotiating by age four, you’ll never learn it.

    In summa, you don’t really deserve to be paid attention to. Since nobody does, it must make you mad enough to pull a Cichlimbar.

    Wagner Reply:

    If no one was listening to me there would be no point in trying to assassinate my character, Eryximachus. I suggest you read the Symposium instead of squandering your intellect memorizing facts and “types” no doubt generated from within the Cathedralist horizon. A good lecture to hwet your hwistle is by Michael Sugrue, available for pirating, but I’m sure you can afford to buy it with your bloodmoney.

    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    Just to correct; when I meant having money to undermine the Cathedral, I inadvertently left in the doctor bit from an earlier edit. I’m not a physician. I am an executive in a multinational financial institution for what it is worth. Exceptionally pozzed company, as might be expected.

    But I like to think that I’m taking their money and then using it, inasmuch as I can, for the cause of Restoration.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    I think Cryptogen is the type of “doctor” that I despise. The one who’s not that really much at all into the Hippocratic Oath. And not that much into researching the patient as opposed to marking off a few things off a memorized checklist or telling the patient that he’s just crazy.

    Y’all know? These doctors that are really Cathedral-petro-pharmachemical Complex bots. Won’t give 2 shits as long as they can hit the golf field.

    http://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i2139

    Can’t wait for those routine pseudoscientist doctors-of-the-church to be replaced by AI in those features that humans are unnecessary or too lazy/hurried/prejudiced for. We all know how medicine has been riddled with prejudice against its own sciences for a long time. It’s a job that many go into just for prestige.

    I mean, who’d want Cryptogen as a doctor if they see the schadenfreude shit he’s posting? A doctor gleeful over the errors and sufferings of others. A real philanthropist, right? I wouldn’t trust him to doctor my fucking dog.

    Pretending not to have ressentiment. Guy’s stuck with a scenario from 6 months ago in his brain still replying like it happened yesterday.

    Cryptogenic Reply:

    I never even hinted that you should or could.

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    Wagner Reply:

    Probably not, too committed to non-worldly objects.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    I’m pretty sure Wagner could become an MD if he put his mind to it.

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    Cryptogenic Reply:

    “Blood money.” Kek. I guess that’s one way of putting it: There is a lot of blood in my work, mainly from the uterus.

    I have no suggestions for you. Maybe don’t pick on better men’s wives?

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    Wagner Reply:

    If I had to tend to bloody c*nts all day I’d go on the internet and act like a brat too.

    And you only wish I would sink so low as to pick on a man’s wife, let alone Land’s wife. Since everyone kisses his feet (you especially lingeringly) someone has to remind him of his biases, you know, because philosophical objectivity is important and all that, not like I’d expect you to understand, someone who on a Moldbug-inspired blog appeals to being a doctor… It just goes to show how far XS has deviated from UR.

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    Cryptogenic Reply:

    Thank God we have you to offer correction from the Wal-Mart wifi. Beware, Cathedral.

    Wagner Reply:

    Daniel, despite the following joke, and as far as one can trust my judge of character you seem like you’re genuinely after the Good, Ren, whatever you want to call it: can you send me $100 so I can buy a pair of the kind of underwear Cryptogenic wears so I stop making all these ressentimentful posts on Xenosystems? These Walmart undies are just so starchy and scratchy I can’t help it.

    ADDED: unrelated but this comes to mind, maybe someone can make a synchronicity out of it:

    “One day just as he had returned from his usual Sunday visit to Wagner, Nietzsche asked me most casually where he might find a good silk shop in Basel. Eventually he admitted he had undertaken to shop for a pair of silk underpants for Wagner, and this important matter filled him with anxiety; for–added the smiling iconoclast–‘once you’ve chosen a God, you’ve got to adorn him!’”

    Zwei Nietzsche Anekdoten, Frankfurter Zeitung, 9 March 1904

    collen ryan Reply:

    If wag and erik, bright kids are couchsurfing on walmart sofas our elites have fucking wasted them. They are crazy because its a crazy world and a sane person is driven mad.

    This is one reason why a hierarchical reactionary system has to start with an ethno state.The lynchpin that undid the entire cathedral was the fact of HBd the fact that we are not one species but competing species, we compete as a species as one body a body with a head and arms and legs the head can change the body but the head can not change another body

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    wag and erik. lol

    collen ryan Reply:

    And Im a multimillionaire plumber whats your point

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    collen ryan Reply:

    MD avg IQ 124 big deal and a really poor return on time invested

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    Cryptogenic Reply:

    Current Year society provides ever new and alarming ways for bright people to become trapped, isolated and enmeshed in situations that thwart their development. I’m intimately familiar with it. People enmeshed in family problems generations deep, bored by school, too INTJ for the dogma of the day, zero social capital, omegas …

    But at some point you have to take full responsibility. Appealing to transcendentals (“I’m pursuing Truth, I haven’t got time for mere work!”) or muh Cathedral just means “I’m scared and I don’t know the way of the world.” That kind of reverse snowflake-ism is not admirable. Many worthwhile minds are scared and angry, yet not willing to become professional victims, blue-haired non-binaries or bored office drones. Yet, unfortunately, they’re not willing to pursue much of anything else either. They want to remain children because the era doesn’t match their real or perceived personalities, rather than engage in pragmatic survival. That is a Cathedral luxury.

    My sympathy lies with those who will think it through and make choices. If you pussed out once, I understand why. If you intend to be an adult child forever, just An Hero yourself.

    Also, a cursory glance at the XS comments section during its active years should convince anyone that the most windy posters today are NOWHERE NEAR that level of discussion. I’m not either; I don’t have the time for scholarship. Digesting it is enough of a challenge for me.

    Wagner Reply:

    “One principle prevails in the souls of one class of men, another in others, as may happen?

    Yes.

    Then we may begin by assuming that there are three classes of men–lovers of wisdom, lovers of honor, lovers of gain?

    Exactly.”

    Cryptogenic Reply:

    You can’t convince me that you have the resources for real otium. Separating a power from what it can do is never nice — but have you really been separated? Doesn’t matter to me.

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    Wagner Reply:

    I would rather be laboring as a student/teacher in the Antiversity, but couldn’t that be said of all of us here? My job allows me to listen to audiobooks the whole time; I think it is a good makeshift until Trump drains le swamp. Been listening to Chaucer lately–I guess the English produced *some* great minds 🙂

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    You are already are a laboring student of the Antiversity.

    Cryptogenic Reply:

    You will feel better when you have position within a dominance hierarchy and/or the opportunity to move up in it. I would give you a list of behavioral therapists to see and write you a script for an SSRI, and recommend you get exercise, sunlight and curtail drugs and alcohol. This would make you properly ashamed of yourself and show you what you could strive for. You’re anesthetized by your memeplex but, I mean, do you even lift, bruh?

    What have you got but the ascetic ideal? The mask of the ascetic is something you wear in order to discard, as Nietzsche understood. What state of being is required to think an OBGYN earns (figurative) “blood money”? One with very low seratonin.

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    Wagner Reply:

    I’m beginning to unironically wonder if you’re a bot, but it’s likelier you’re just a normie. You might want to try the drug MM in part 1 of his Gentle Intro to UR mentions (your soul is in extreme danger of being lost forever, if it’s not already too late).

    I told you to buy that lecture with bloodmoney because you gave the impression you were a psych or “cog” science student, which in my experience is about as POZ’d as you can get. The only sin you’re guilty of for being in OBGYN is that you’re spending time absorbing learnin’s that are entirely impotent in the struggle to chip away at the Cathedral.

    I do lift! We should nude-bodybuild together sometime bb.

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    Cryptogenic Reply:

    Thanks, I’ve studied Moldbug and beyond. I’m not interested in any sort of ideological movement because muh Hume and muh Darwin. I’m interested in insight, survival and doing something well because I can. Money = Exit Options.

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  • Zimriel Says:

    Sarkeesian’s aim (for she is the Robespierre behind Twitter’s salut-public committee) is to put it in the minds of @outsideness’s followers not to bother following it, because its status is unreliable. You have been marked

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    Post Alley Crackpot Reply:

    I’ll send my cats over to her place, they’re great for marking territory as well …

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  • Anonymous Says:

    A comment I found on reddit:

    “Has anyone outside the alt-right done a serious analysis of the possibility that it’s the Saudis, not SJWs, who are responsible for the recent Twitter bans? Their second-largest shareholder is a Saudi prince, he owns more stock than Jack Dorsey. They have a lot of power over the company. It would also explain why ISIS accounts are tolerated.

    They also have three times the penetration in Saudi Arabia than in the United States.

    One of the things that marks out the people being banned is that they’re right-wingers, sure, but the other thing that marks them out (and is more unique to them) is that they are vocal critics of Islam.”

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    collen ryan Reply:

    yesterday and today i have found right wing sight to load really slow or not ar all or freeze Unz jims is down again it seems if you go on one that doing this then all sites youre open do it and i have to reboot

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  • Phil Sandifer Says:

    I’m amused to see you hit on a philosophical question that resonates deeply with feminist and social justice oriented analysis, namely whether or not abuse requires intentionality. After all, given the amount of blocks that seem to have been going on across Twitter it’s pretty clear this is a case of automated banning run amok. Which leads to the question of whether abuse requires a conscious abuser, or whether it is possible for an AI/capitalism to be abusive.

    Anyway, glad you’re back.

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  • Cryptogenic Says:

    You haven’t got $100? Martyrdom.

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  • Wagner Says:

    Hey, you have your undies, I have my tendies.

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  • Space Ghost Says:

    We’re still waiting for a Bitcoin address to get you properly attired.

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    Wagner Reply:

    If you think Land ranks Capital over Truth you’ve misinterpreted him.

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    Space Ghost Reply:

    I’m sending underwear money to YOU ya dingus, not admin.

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    Wagner Reply:

    Imagine Land having a “Donate” button on his site. That image cues four “ha’s” from me, it’s tacky to accept charity, he’d never lower himself to that so neither would I.. I have one pair of boxer-briefs I cherish because they have (Levi) STRAUSS on them, neo”cons” take note, you ignoble liars.

    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    I’ll contribute.

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    Wagner Reply:

    Send it to Cryptogenic instead, a great mind ruined by resource-thirst. Or rather to admin to help de-subordinate him from Thielocracy.

    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    @Wagner

    Is something wrong with Thielocracy?

    Wagner Reply:

    Christianity can lead to leftism, assuming it is not inherently leftist.
    Libertarianism can lead to leftism, assuming it is not inherently leftist.
    Homosexuality can lead to leftism, assuming it is not inherently leftist.

    I’m mostly concerned about the subliminal mindfuck he exercises on ol Curt and Nick; in the best of all possible worlds the dudes who are good at making money would give it all away to philosophers… I know, I’m an idealist. It’s all a question of who’s holding the reins, and I’m almost positive that MM has hypnotized Thiel with his rabbi magic, but still I worry.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    There are at least two types of philosophers. One you should give money to, and one you shouldn’t. Or is there only one?

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  • Y.Ilan Says:

    Since Nietzsche is very much appreciated around here, I think this little aphorism from “Die fröhliche Wissenschaft” is suitable:

    “What shall I do with these two youths! Called out a philosopher dejectedly, who ‘corrupted‘ youths, as Socrates had once corrupted them, -they are unwelcome disciples to me. One of them cannot say ‘Nay’ and the other says ‘Half and half’ to everything. Provided they grasped my doctrine, the former would suffer too much, for my mode of thinking requires a martial soul, willingness to cause pain, delight in denying, and a hard skin, -he would succumb by open wounds and internal injuries. And the other will choose the mediocre in everything he represents, and thus make a mediocrity of the whole, -I should like my enemy to have such a disciple.”

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    Wagner Reply:

    Yes, Land and I are unworthy disciples of Nietzsche, it is true.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    It can’t be said that those who avert their eyes from the field of battle (I’m not reading your comments, he claims), but instead dreams to the golf field… it cannot be said those are martial. Indeed, it is funnily enough “Dr.” Creepogenic who matches one (both?) of those corrupted. Trying to vie himself above others with credentialism, as if that isn’t against truth.

    And mediocrity is exactly too what we see from him, a low-energy regurgitating of memes from those he in the same breath denounces: The saintlike celibates of 4chan and 8chan. The man is exposed as a hypocrite here—yet again!

    Quite. The self-unconsciousness is a case for study.

    Such a Nietzschean, no? The guy derides everything—”incel, underdevelopment, underemployment, massive frustration”—about Nietzsche except his fame! God knows what attracts him to Land, except he come here as a scumfroth of Mouravieff’s General Law.

    As for his credentialism. Such as which Nietzsche certainly warned about.

    » The annual list of the most common causes of death in the United States, compiled by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), informs public awareness and national research priorities each year. The list is created using death certificates filled out by physicians, funeral directors, medical examiners, and coroners. However, a major limitation of the death certificate is that it relies on assigning an International Classification of Disease (ICD) code to the cause of death.1 As a result, causes of death not associated with an ICD code, such as human and system factors, are not captured. The science of safety has matured to describe how communication breakdowns, diagnostic errors, poor judgment, and inadequate skill can directly result in patient harm and death.

    Medical error [is] the third leading cause of death in the US. »

    So it’s not enough to be a credentialist to actually be a good human being.

    Not even a competent professional. ‘Professional’ after all just means it’s your profession, for good or ill. And copious amounts of literature show that any trust beyond that—or even up to that!—is often misplaced.

    I wonder what Dr. Creep is shilling to-day? Maybe beating on a student whom the former is twice his age?

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    Cryptogenic Reply:

    Picture book form: The most oblivious and self-involved voices on low-activity-era XS tend to be omegas without any profession at all, probably deranged, certainly lazy, and with major chips on their shoulders. Pretty sure that’s not controversial.

    Maybe you should re-read The Dark Enlightenment: “Because grievance status is awarded as political compensation for economic incompetence, it constructs an automatic cultural mechanism that advocates for dysfunction. The Universalist creed, with its reflex identification of inequality with injustice, can conceive no alternative to the proposition that the lower one’s situation or status, the more compelling is one’s claim upon society, the purer and nobler one’s cause. Temporal failure is the sign of spiritual election (Marxo-Calvinism), and to dispute any of this is clearly ‘hate’.”

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    Wagner Reply:

    https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder123/250×250/72929123.jpg

    The subtext here is we’re heretics and you’re trying to defend the Orthodoxy, and that would be all fine and good, but from my understanding of the Orthodoxy here, the Outside should be let in.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    I’m loving this. lol

    You’ve gotten better, Cryptogen. Of course, not close to the master.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    How the fuck am I claiming grievance status? I perceive you as scum, because you literally are a scumbag for a human being. I have no grievance about that, except as a sad case of humanity.

    I’m not really the omega male you think? I am. You think I’m a neckbeard virgin, really?

    No, nigga. I’m a rising star. I’ve started to pity you. Thus why I have commented on your posts of late. <3

    xo xo xo

    Wagner Reply:

    Crypt shops at Victoria’s Secret (of the spirit). He prescribed antidepressants, he’s a posterboy for shilldom.

    Y.Ilan Reply:

    We all say “Nay” or “Half and half” all the time and to far too many things, and thus the aphorism can apply to one and all. What is the martial soul? As I see it, a willingness and perhaps a drive to seek and deal with adversity whether it be mental or physical; and yet our mind is an embodied mind, and so adversity is never separated dualistically. Any sort of long-term, torpid comfort is to be avoided, whether it comes from hierarchical self-satisfaction, from a lack of worldly responsibility, from physical ease, and so on and so forth. For the vast majority of us living in the pacified West, the martial soul is hard to come by.

    I have a lot of sympathy for those who, for one reason or another, are lost, unsatisfied, bitter, abandoned. I myself am not sure what path exactly it is that I follow. When I was in the army, I didn’t have to consider my path; now, more mature and indeed readier to face suffering and pain, things have become murkier.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    When you go hard your nays become yays. – Nicki Minaj

    Cryptogenic Reply:

    Erikson and Wagner dominate hibernating XS to the point of mistaking it for their own blogs, of nearly being IP banned and encouraging the proliferation of a comment-nesting script among readers. None of this registers with them. I am not the only XS addict disappointed in this experiment in tolerance.

    It did not take a great moment of insight to determine that their life situations were not in the best repair — and they are free with personal information to extrapolate from. You will recognize their type:

    “Avoid fuck-ups. FU’s, I call them. You all know the type — no matter how good it sounds, everything they have anything to do with turns into a disaster. Trouble for themselves and everyone connected with them. A FU is bad news, and it rubs off — don’t let it rub off on you.

    “Do not proffer sympathy to the mentally ill; it is a bottomless pit. Tell them firmly, ‘I am not paid to listen to this drivel — you are a terminal FU!’ Otherwise, they make you as crazy as they are.”

    Big difference between the exceptional and the merely pathological, but these are two men who don’t see anything laughable about including themselves in the western pantheon and other cringecore moments (“bedding ladies”), so you know what you’re dealing with.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    lol 😀

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Speaking of cringe, you do realise Jeb Bush is above yourself in your esteemed normie hierarchy?

    Anyway, if you are brave enough go public on the internet, someone is bound to cringe over you. Like, you do realise hundreds of people cringe over Land?

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Or however old the creeplurker is.

    Cryptograndpa if you are interested there might be a video of me screwing a petite 19 yo somewhere online. It might have leaked since I lost my phone.

    Are you cringed already?

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  • Cryptogenic Says:

    They work for lobsters, they’ll work for you.

    http://caspar.bgsu.edu/~huberlab/private/KingSolPub.pdf

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    Wagner Reply:

    A handful of years back I tried an SSRI and then an SNRI, both made me docile so I stopped taking them. Therapists told me I could classify as schizoid. Antidepressants and psychoanalysts are mechanisms of hegemonization, and in our quasi-matriarchal society, emasculation. If you’re on one of those drugs I strongly suggest you get off it, “consensus reality” is highly over-rated. Erikson, what does Deleuze say about psychoanalysts?

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    Cryptogenic Reply:

    Color me unsurprised.

    I only recommend an SSRI if you can’t STOP being docile and get yourself into a better situation where bad things will make you less nervous and good things will make you happier. If you’re just listening to ebooks all day and not doing anything challenging, you will experience a drop in serotonin. Welcome to the modern world. Your timidity is big pharma’s gain.

    Neither Deleuze (inasmuch as he cared about psychotherapy) nor Guattari were against drug therapy. There is no other way to treat schizophrenics after all.

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    Wagner Reply:

    Crypt, can we have an honest conversation for once? I think people who comment here (probably with the exception of Artxell) are closer than we think despite our disagreements. I have growing sympathy for Land’s pathos of distance from the alt-right but nonetheless I think we’re largely part of the same ethos. What kind of struggle do you have in your normie job from which you derive wealth and status? And do you really not feel like a philistine in implying that the absorption of classics requires no suffering? I’m a millennial atheist and I’ve been reading Augustine’s Confessions lately – you think I don’t suffer from reading that? The kind of suffering you derive from memorizing facts about bleeding uteruses pales in comparison, I suggest you take a seat.

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    Cryptogenic Reply:

    That’s, uh, heart rending.

    Wagner Reply:

    Crypto “I memorize pussy-facts for pussy” genic.

    Cryptogenic Reply:

    That’s it, I’m bested.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Something about daddi Cryptie makes him really fun to play with. Maybe it’s how he tries harder sometimes. Shows a new side of himself.

    Kind of exciting.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    My main hobby used to be to gauge bioscience and medical literature.

    This one’s pretty cool.

    » EDS is not the only physical health condition that doctors and mental health
    practitioners may miss as a result of focusing on the presenting psychological
    features. Another common illness – and this really does need to be emphasised – is
    Lyme Disease, caught from infected ticks. If this is not treated quickly and
    aggressively soon after infection, it becomes Chronic Lyme Disease, manifesting in a
    range of physical and psychological problems. It can mimic ADHD (Young, 2012;
    Marzillier, 2009)iv, with cognitive deficits, memory and attentional problems,
    hyperactivity, racing thoughts, ‘brain fog’, vivid nightmares and intrusive imagery,
    mood and affect dysregulation, anxiety and depression, and seeming personality
    disorder – and can also give rise to sensitivities similar to those found amongst
    people on the autistic spectrum. When a person presents with varied somatic
    complaints, along with anxiety or depression, it is all too easy for these to be
    dismissed as ‘psychological’, or to do with ‘stress’, or ‘hysteria’, or as ‘medically
    unexplained symptoms’. The problems may be ‘medically unexplained’ for the very
    good reason that the proper diagnosis has not yet been found! With these examples
    in mind (and there are no doubt many others), I urge psychotherapists, psychiatrists,
    and medical doctors not to dismiss too easily the role of abnormalities in the person’s
    brain or body as significant contributors to the presenting clinical picture.
    The disturbances described here are not ‘all in the mind’ – they cannot be
    understood or helped by a purely psychological framework. The workings of the mind
    are determined in part by the substrate of a compromised brain or body. In working
    with ADHD, autistic spectrum conditions, EDS and other somato-psychic conditions,
    it is important to understand the dread of falling apart, of losing coherence, of being
    traumatically overstimulated, or, by contrast, of being in a state of highly aversive
    understimulation – in short, the myriad terrors and dysphorias of the disintegrating
    self
    . »

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    Cryptogenic Reply:

    Anemia is a far more common condition featuring cognitive impairment, anxiety, depression, etc. Adding iron and iodine to staples increased IQ among the entire US population.

    Plenty of people with “anxiety disorders” turned out to have hemaglobin <15. I've never encountered or treated any patient with Lyme disease because I work in an urban ER/NICU.

    Docs-in-a-box hear this a hundred times every day: "I'm tired, my neck hurts, I can't sleep/sleep too much." These are not the best diagnosticians in the world anyway, but the problem is life is hellishly vapid and the seratonin drop sends people scrambling to doctors and therapists.

    Get a life, snowflakes. You don't have syphilis like old gunpowder head, and you will feel better with some status, money and pussy. If this is truly impossible, just keep quiet.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    You would’ve put Nietzsche on SSRIs or something similar.

    Wagner Reply:

    “In the Great Hall of the Linz Library are the busts of Kant, Schopenhauer and Nietzsche, the greatest of our thinkers, in comparison with whom the British, the French and the Americans have nothing to offer.”

    “In our parts of the world, the Jews would have immediately eliminated Schopenhauer, Nietzsche and Kant. If the Bolsheviks had dominion over us for two hundred years, what works of our past would be handed on to posterity? Our great
    men would fall into oblivion, or else they’d be presented to future generations as criminals and bandits.”

    Adolf Hitler

    Cryptogenic Reply:

    “Carefully the myopic man sits down to a table; carefully, the man with the sensitive stomach considers every item on the menu: whether the tea is not too strong, the food not spiced too much, for every mistake in his diet upsets his sensitive digestion, and every transgression in his nourishment wreaks havoc with his quivering nerves for days. No glass of wine, no glass of beer, no alcohol, no coffee at his place, no cigar and no cigarette after his meal, nothing that stimulates, refreshes, or rests him: only the short meager meal and a little urbane, unprofound conversation in a soft voice with an occasional neighbor (as a man speaks who for years has been unused to talking and is afraid of being asked too much).

    “…Otherwise only books and manuscripts, and on a tray innumerable bottles and jars and potions: against the migraines, which often render him all but senseless for hours, against his stomach cramps, against spasmodic vomiting, against the slothful intestines, and above all the dreadful sedatives against his insomnia, chloral hydrate and Veronal. A frightful arsenal of poisons and drugs, yet the only helpers in the empty silence of this strange room in which he never rests except in brief and artificially conquered sleep.”

    I would have put Nietzsche on penicillin. If you think being shy and bizarre or trying to read Augustine while disbelieving constitutes suffering — and this is the consequential point — you aren’t even casually acquainted with reality. You just reek of ease.

    Wagner Reply:

    Zweig isn’t man enough to trim the mustache of a Friedrich Nietzsche. Recently listened to Hermann Hesse pluck at Zarathustra’s wreath in The Glass Bead Game and it’s a decent critique but ultimately very silly as it’s clear that next to N, H is a joke, and less than a joke. Penicillin? Such a pedestrian response, it’s a shallow rumor that he died due to an STD, meant to make people forget about his dangerous ideas.

    If I reek of ease we may have run into a contradiction, crypt. Do I reek of otium? Do you reek of the… working-class? *gasp*

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Yeah, Creepo is rather pedestrian. I quite predicted he’d answer “No, I’d put him on [so so].” Obviously considering other things he’s said he considers “NEET” memelords, hidden heroes, as well as proto-neets, almost sub-human. Except if they’re famous.

    Sir Isaac Newton was a hermit. Fevered occultist. /fringe/ material. Immanuel Kant was totally celibate. Nikola Tesla. This is at the level of rejecting Thiel because he’s gay. Socrates had an ugly wife he didn’t care for. If that was my goal I’d have married as a teenager. Shit, this is ridiculous. On a site like Xenosystems everybody knows how numerous the ranks of weirdos are when it comes to having interesting thoughts. Dante Alighieri, fantasied about some chick he saw at a market, for the rest of his life.

    This is not mentioning hundreds of monastics who had influence on history. Sciences. Everything. I recommend the Berkeley paper on St. Aquinas and nonlinear brain dynamics.

    And those wise men of China, Japan and India. Wtf is this?

    It’s not difficult at all to get pussy unless you’re morbidly ill. What is strange however, is that our little Nazi Doctor didn’t say *quality pussy*!

    If I was a neckbeard virgin it wouldn’t matter ounce regarding anything. What am I gonna, list my sexual escapades? This is not a fucking “Red Pill” board. This is a xeno injection board. “I masturbated so and so girl.” “Ejeculated onto the face of this one.” Who cares. Bich, I’m the Buddha of Europe.

    Still, he obviously knows some sciences however shallow that may be and is a reader of Land and other interesting things. At least he’s our Cryptogen. lol Our little saccharin sycophant sociopath philistine & Pharisee! Truly

    Wagner Reply:

    I don’t have a daughter myself but I have the intuition that if these PUA types had one they would immediately pull a Jay-Z and regret their days of treating women like spittoons. Late Moldbug went out of his way to smite Heartiste, many so-called reactionaries today seem to have forgotten that. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a prosateur de force whose critiques of feminism are second to none but he’s spawned a generation of dysgenic losers who probably shouldn’t be breeding in the first place, and you can spot them from a mile away. Makes me grimace thinking about a guy like crypt being anywhere near the “pussies” of our Volk. “Get some pussy, bro”. Get some love, bro! This is the state of our professionals today lololol. There will be many on the left AND the right in the gulags of the future, that’s all I can say.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    One wonders if fucks like Cryptogen have ever had a reciprocal love relationship, even at 40 yo?

    Cryptogenic Reply:

    Neurosyphilis isn’t only sexually transmitted.

    CADASIL is in contention as a possible explanation of N’s illness. I don’t know how heritable it is, but that would explain the strokes too. No one will ever know for certain but neurosyphilis is not a terrible guess; CADASIL is a somewhat better one.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CADASIL_syndrome

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  • SVErshov Says:

    anything popular, automatically become crude

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    Wagner Reply:

    I have no illusions about our crudity in the sense that early XS commenters are definitely smarter than most people who comment here now (including Land himself ironically)–but in another sense we’ve aufheben’d those guys (Vladimir sticks out to me as the smartest); this happens with time, geniuses say things then dwarves start fine-tuning them in their dwarf-way. Sure we’re sometimes crude–(by “we” I mean michael, Erikson, and myself, not the turgid STEM, silicon valley “neo” liberals who are ever-so objective and high-brow) but I don’t think we often utter outright *falsities*. A lot of what we say, Mainstream Xenosystems (hereafter “MSXS”) simply finds too outlandishly truthful to assimilate to its narrative so it scapegoats, blocks, censors, etc.

    MSXS is crude in its inability to move beyond the tenets of XS. We represent the “unqualified reservations” OF Unqualified Reservations. It’s meta bro.

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    SVErshov Reply:

    I’m afraid you misunderstood my comment, I donot refer to XS, but politics in general. regarding old commentariat and current state, I like current much better, more concentrated (hard to come by) and same time arbitrary attitude, absolutely essential for survival of independent thought. place where everybody searching for concensus (on how to make world a better place) become stagnated and ingrown. deception is essential counter crudiness tool.

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  • Cryptogenic Says:

    33. And yes, you’ve suitably disgusted everyone.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    OK.

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  • Wagner Says:

    @Daniel and admin, much to my dismay it appears my boi Jünger shared your premonition:

    “The [1979] interview starts with the following question: “Wie lautet Ihre Prognose fuer das 21. Jahrhundert?” [“What’s your prognosis for the 21st century?”] And Juenger answers: “Das 21. Jahrhundert wird mexikanisch und chinesisch sein. Ich meine, machtmaessig werden die Chinesen sehr zunehmen: durch ihren Fleiss, ihr Organisations- talent, ihre Zahl.” [“The 21st century will be Mexican and Chinese. I mean in terms of power the Chinese will become very important, because of their assiduity, their organizational talent, their number.”]
    (With “Mexican” Juenger refers to sacred drugs)
    In Juenger’s utopian novel “Eumeswil”, published in 1977, the Chinese seem to play an important role as well.”

    On the other hand Jünger (1990) shared Nietzsche’s premonition that the 21st century will be nihilistic:

    “The next century belongs to the Titans; the gods will still lose prestige. Being given that they will return as they always did, the XXIst century, considered from a religious point of view, will be an intermediate link, an interim. “Dieu se retire.””

    So I suppose we’ll see, or better yet, our grand-kids will see.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    God is not dead. I promise

    That which is dead may never die anyway. God is undead

    Haunting Europe

    « It was said that Zeus so loved Europa that he gave her three priceless presents. The first was Talos, a magical man made of bronze, who served as a guard on Crete. The second was Laelaps, a dog that excelled at the hunt. And the third and final gift was a javelin that always hit its target. »

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  • Daniel Chieh Says:

    @Wager

    Sacred drugs?

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    Wagner Reply:

    Sure, see Moldbug’s indirect endorsement in the 3rd paragraph of part 1 of his Gentle Intro to UR as I indirectly endorsed to Crypto. This could just be an example of MM’s rhetorical marksmanship, his ability to ensnare/enamor youth, but the man has spent many of his years in California of all places so I doubt it’s just that.

    Do you Chinese have any indigenous drugs that bring about mystical experiences? When I was there I considered asking a native or researching it online but I didn’t want to get deported.

    Jünger was a Nietzschean in the sense that he believed 6cd is dead and a Hölderlinian in the sense that he expected God to be reborn, or for “the gods to return”. In the meantime, “tripping” as it is called allows certain people to make the gods present as it were. William James who is perhaps the arch-philosopher of mysticism deemed one of the characteristics of mystical experience “passivity” which means one cannot will it, it must simply *happen* to one, but even he was a fan of laughing gas–in fact he said the only time he understood Hegel was under its influence (LOL). There are a few ways to bring about a “return of the gods” on the temporary, individual level (though it need not be entirely temporary it often is):

    “Mystical experiences can be reached by way of two main avenues: The first includes all forms of mystical events which were unintentionally arrived at, and the second includes all forms of mystical events which were reached by way of some form of intentional participation, by the subject, towards their realization. These latter ones can be further classified into four main categories, which regroup all forms of mystical experiences reached by way of (i) meditative practices, (ii) the use of psychotropic substances, (iii) dream states, and (iv) aesthetic experiences.” (Kurstak)

    Jünger is referring above to mescaline which is a far milder (gentler) version of what MM is talking about, popular in Mexico and existent in a few Cacti, the most potent of which, peyote, is going extinct (for obvious reasons). Not like I would ever dabble in anything illegal but Jünger warns:

    “I take drugs too seriously to believe that one should make a habit of them and use them like cigarettes. My example in this area are the Mexicans, who did not take drugs on a daily basis; instead, they got together on certain occasions in order to indulge in them as part of a cult. That was why Christianity had so much trouble converting them. They told the missionaries: “What can we await from your Christ? We encounter our gods repeatedly, we see them, we sit down at the table with them!” I’m profoundly convinced that great intuitions are revealed, but this is not granted to everyone. It may then be desirable to rely on an initiator, a guru, or a priest, who will help you to steady your steps, rather than letting you charge all alone, with a lowered head, into danger. The man who does that by throwing caution to the winds is risking his life.”

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    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    We had some difficulties with mind-altering substances and free trade in the late 19th century. Currently traders in such wares are apprehended and often given new lives(after reincarnation).

    http://thediplomat.com/2013/06/ahead-of-international-drug-day-china-executes-6/

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    Wagner Reply:

    What do you think about the Opium Wars, Daniel? Even I, a neo-Nazi scumbag, sigh at the callousness of conscience that would addict a people to a substance for profit, and then pretend it never happened.

    What I am talking about here though is not opiate-like in the least, it’s the diametrical opposite if there ever was one. Google Leary and Wilson’s Eight-Circuit Model of Consciousness. Opium makes you feel like a baby, certain psychedelics make you feel like Thich Nhat Hanh. From my experience the Chinese lump all “drugs” under one category. That is a mistake. There are dumbdumb drugs and there are “spend four hours with the Tao” drugs.

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    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    We are pretty dogmatic people, probably from eating all those dogs.

    But yes, after the Opium Wars, China has a hate of anything mind-altering to the extreme – besides alcohol, at the least. I imagine that eventually cannabis will become more acceptable in a medicinal format, but there’s a several stigma. I’m a total square when it comes to that and I certainly can’t speak for the population, but the overall opposition remains heavy.

    Its a harsh memory and one which the Party likes to keep rubbing in the faces of the population. It works, reasonably well, as motivation to this day. To some extent, we accept that it happened because we were weak and that’s quite understandable. The strong do what they will, and all.

    Wagner Reply:

    Well, as someone who’s 1/8th British, sorry about that. I think wypipo deserve their Guilt to some extent. The alt-right likes to pretend that morality ain’t no thang but a chicken wang. Pathetic.

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  • Wagner Says:

    Jack, I’ve been thinking… the sooner you block me the better off I’ll be. I don’t want to be here. But then I realized, maybe it would be good to block *yourself* for a while, so to speak. I think you need some fresh air. I know it would be tough to delete this blog and start from scratch but I think you’ve lost sight of what’s important, you were a philosopher but you lapsed into a priest. For what it’s worth, from day one I’ve been a Landian not a Moldbuggian. You need to go to an island, get away from twitter, forget about your haters, forget about your fans, for a month, maybe even a year. You definitely need to break out of the pattern you’re in and soon.

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  • Aeroguy Says:

    Admin, given the “abuse” why is exiting twitter for other platforms so difficult? Given the stickiness it’s no wonder these social networks go bad, but I suppose I’m in the same boat here waiting for a burst of negentropy.

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