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December 10, 2016admin 25 Comments »


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  • Heraker Says:

    Where do the NSA and the rest of the intelligence community fit?


    Posted on December 10th, 2016 at 9:57 am Reply | Quote
  • darkreformation101 Says:

    I heard from the BBC radio that Obama and the democrats are launching an investigation into Russia interfering in the election. This follows Hillary Clinton who, earlier this week, said that “fake news” was a problem.

    BTW, I find this a curious coincidence given that Russia has also, yesterday, been accused of doping in sports.

    The “blue government” is trying to undermine the “legitimacy of Trump.” It is rather similar to the right wing malcontents undermining of Obama as unamerican and a Muslim or Muslimist (which, in my view, is plausible). However, the Cathedral have more means of implanting this in people’s minds.

    The Blue government (polygon and the Cathedral) are simply going to push for more and more control of the medium and the message (repeaters and kernels.)

    The end goal will look like China’s Cathedral: total control.

    We are going to need to tech guys who can route around the Matrix, undermine it, and can organise outside of it.


    Erebus Reply:

    It’s all quite strange, isn’t it?

    The Russians aren’t the only ones doping. Far from it! Kenya, for just one example, has been running sophisticated doping programs for years. It’s no secret — there are comprehensive reports that go back to 2012 and even earlier — but the media doesn’t seem to care much. If Russian athletes dope, it’s front-page news, whereas if Kenyan distance runners dope, it hardly warrants coverage.

    The DNC hack seems to have been carried out by a group that has been spear-phishing NGOs and governments around the world since 2007. They may be Russian, and they may have ties to the Russian government — but nothing has been proven. The “evidence” I’ve seen is totally inconclusive. There’s a decent and sedate review of the group’s previous activities here, which, although a bit dated, is better than anything produced recently.

    …Surely an incredibly skilled and very active group. Certainly not a bunch of kids with a HackForum account and a working credit card. But that doesn’t necessarily imply that these hackers are Russian government agents — the hacks could have come from a defense contractor, from a private intelligence firm, or from an extremely clever underground syndicate. I’m not sure we’ll ever know; these guys have been around for ages; hacking groups that target the USG and its NGOs don’t survive a decade unless they’re very, very good at covering their tracks.

    There appears to be a concerted effort to malign the Russian government at every possible turn.

    In any case, it was never the CIA vs. the FBI. The CIA never had its head in the game. It was, quite obviously, the rank-and-file of the FBI vs. the political appointees. And, most of all, it was the sheer stupidity of Clinton and her friends at the DNC which doomed them.


    Wally D. Reply:

    I agree one Edward Snowden is not going to cut it. We need thousands more within the matrix if there is to be any resistance at all.


    Anti-Gnostic Reply:

    Your insight in and of itself is a False News Story. Bravo


    Posted on December 10th, 2016 at 11:08 am Reply | Quote
  • They Return Says:

    After reading underworld by delillo I really looked into j. Edgar hoover.
    The man was like a shadow shogun, and I don’t know of any legal measures taken since then that would limit the FBI directors power in any meaningful way.

    CIA seem like a bunch of burocratic normies.


    collen ryan Reply:

    I think there were quite a lot of legal obstacles to hooverism, even while he was operating. He was often defiantly outside the law technically. Certainly pretty much in response to him and other developments, some pretty hard laws were put in place that in a sense made even the intelligence agencies much tamer for a while. Im beginning to think the 911 really was an inside job to get those laws repealed because terrorism


    John Hannon Reply:

    “CIA seem like a bunch of bureaucratic normies.”

    Their best days are behind them –


    Anonymous Reply:

    > Their best days are behind them –

    Probably, one can always hope though, MKUltra was kept secret at its time…

    Best case scenario, some of these were no accidents:,_New_York#2011_illness_outbreak


    John Hannon Reply:

    “MKUltra was kept secret at its time”

    Yes, though it did have some unforeseen consequences. As Jay Stevens in Storming Heaven notes –

    “Within the CIA itself, Gottlieb and his associates were taking LSD regularly, tripping at the office, at Agency parties, measuring their mental equilibrium against those of their colleagues. Turn your back in the morning and some wiseacre would slip a few micrograms into your coffee. … and sometimes embarrassing things happened. Case-hardened spooks would break down crying or go all gooey about ‘the brotherhood of man.'”

    John Hannon Reply:

    BTW, Sidney Gottlieb was most definitely not a normie –

    Wagner Reply:

    “and sometimes embarrassing things happened. Case-hardened spooks would break down crying or go all gooey about ‘the brotherhood of man.'”

    I’d like to see that happen to the whole commentariat here.

    collen ryan Reply:

    I watched an allegedly leaked presentation by a pharma co to an audience of spooks and military that was selling a drug they found increased or decreased the propensity of religious belief, the presenter made the point it wasn’t limited to religion other strong beliefs could be effected.It seemed like a real low grade phone camera recording of a pretty boring sales pitch although a few of the spooks were getting the implication and were kind of uncomfortable about its immorality.

    John Hannon Reply:

    @ Wagner

    Yes, reminds me of my late and much missed friend Brian Barritt’s main reason for smuggling large quantities of acid behind the Iron Curtain, pre Perestroika – “I thought it would do a lot of good, you know? ”
    Be interesting to see how Puttin would handle a heroic dose. Trump too.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    CIA thou who used to lay low the nations!


    Posted on December 10th, 2016 at 12:27 pm Reply | Quote
  • Justin Says:

    CIA is known to be heavily staffed with Mormons. Maybe a better way to look at it is that Mormonism is heavily infiltrated by the CIA. The Mormon leadership was deeply hostile to Trump. Evan McMullin, the CIA agent who ran on a NeverTrump platform is a Mormon and the obvious plan was to flip Utah to Hillary by splitting the conservative vote and make it that much more certain Hillary would win.

    The CIA has always chafed at the rules preventing them from committing domestic operations and frequently ignored them e.g. the Church committee’s findings.


    R. Reply:


    Now I guess where CIA’s reputation for ineptitude comes from.

    There was a half-serious suggestion that Mormons, as an ethnic group (they’re mostly descended from those who went to Utah) were heavily selected for credulity.

    Salt Lake City is apparently fraud capital of the US, or near it, with Mormons as the victims.

    Credulity – Not a desirable trait in intelligence analysts or spies.


    Seth Largo Reply:

    Coen Bros’ Burn After Reading has a great scene about Mormons running the CIA.

    “I have a drinking problem? Fuck you, Peck, you’re a Mormon. Next to you, we all have drinking problems.”


    Posted on December 10th, 2016 at 4:46 pm Reply | Quote
  • SVErshov Says:

    One thing is to have country with well defined and protected frontiers, another when frontiers already moved in and become interiors. last case can be compered with 4th stage unoperable cancer. when there is no cure removing original tumor will achive nothing.


    Posted on December 10th, 2016 at 7:01 pm Reply | Quote
  • K.L.Anderson Says:

    Be careful about deciding who you support in the intelligence battle regarding Putin

    I support Trump, yet I can’t say if the CIA is right about Putin influencing the presidential election in Trump’s favor, or if the Trump crowd is right in saying he did not. But read intellectuals like Alexander Dugin who back Putin and you will see deep hatred of the West and people who seek imperial power. They write things like : “We need to return to the Being, to the Logos, to the foundamental- ontology (of Heidegger), to the Sacred, to the New Middle Ages – and thus to the Empire, religion, and the institutions of traditional society (hierarchy, cult, domination of spirit over matter and so on). All content of Modernity – is Satanism and degeneration. Nothing is worth, everything is to be cleansed off. The Modernity is absolutely wrong — science, values, philosophy, art, society, modes, patterns, “truths”, understanding of Being, time and space. All is dead with Modernity. So it should end. We are going to end it.” (Dugin)

    …So be careful about deciding who you support in this intelligence battle regarding Putin.

    What you see in my blog are things like this: We moderns can change the physical world, like changing lead to gold, with the alchemy of material evolution. That is the only esoteric or arcane symbolism I can approve of. The black arts of the Traditionalist School (eg. Dugin), the Masons and the Kabbalah, and even Jesuit occult symbolism, are one-sided imagination, words, numbers, symbols, which ultimately reject the real world for non-materialism and spiritualism, when both in reality converge in the evolution of the material world to supermaterial Godhood….

    …The conservative transformation—not revolution—which I see coming, eventually, will bring about an ethnopluralism of ethnostates, where different ethnic groups can conduct themselves the way they want to in their own states within our Democratic Republic, perhaps with only a few amendments to the constitutional separation of powers and states which already exists. But we will need to retain federalism and balance the states together because we need the geopolitical heft of a large nation to defend ourselves in the world. This is the sociopolitical structure most in harmony with the ethnocentric nature of real human nature, which developed many thousands of years ago and remains with us today.


    SVErshov Reply:

    that is all very interesting, I only would like to add, that perceiving the world as a system more practical. imo most countties currently entering into mode of “state determined systems” (Ashby 1952). most important charactetistics of such system is that only current state influence the future.

    “The core notion of a state determined system, then, is that of a self contained, interactive set of aspects of the world such that the future states of the system are always uniquely determined, according to some rule, by the current state. Then the current state of the system in conjunction with the rule can be thought of as uniquely determining future behaviors, while the rule changes as a function of time.” Tim van Gelder MIND AS MOTION


    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    The Mental, Astral, and Physical correspond to the spirit, soul, and body.


    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    This is from Tomberg. I prefer: « Henry Corbin, the scholar of esoteric Islam, was also intensely interested in Swedenborg’s ideas. He demonstrated a correspondence between Swedenborg’s visions and mystical visions described in Islam. For them, there are three worlds: the sensory world, the world of the imagination, and the world of the intellect. »

    That means the intellect is « the mental », while « the astral » is (or corresponds to) the imagination while the sensory world is obviously the physical.

    Spirit refers to intellect, & interest, but soul to experience and emotion.

    The body y´all know what do, up to a point…


    Anonymous Reply:

    Have you read Gurdjieff? You might like it.

    CTRL-F “three-brain” “three brain” etc.

    Posted on December 11th, 2016 at 4:51 pm Reply | Quote
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