Twitter cuts (#110)

There’s nothing about this tweet I don’t like.

Memes are ideas that manage their own security. In the Internet Era they get stronger every day (and mobs get weaker).

February 4, 2017admin 56 Comments »
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  • Crypt Says:

    He doesn’t even begin to understand the game.

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    https://youtu.be/J-EPMIPnW-w?t=13m56s

    « DynCorp Harvest, Killing Is Good Business, Part 1 »

    The world is a vampire castle.

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    Alrenous Reply:

    Admittedly I didn’t try very hard, but I tried his ‘search wikileaks for organ harvesting’ and found no direct links to DynCorp.

    He seems to be more of a source of ideas of how things possibly/probably go rather than being right about any specifics.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    He seems to be more of a source of ideas of how things possibly/probably go rather than being right about any specifics.

    That is how the most intelligent take everything, as a strat. Everything as hyperstitional.

    Our situation is a hyperstituation.

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    Vtlra Reply:

    Wouldn’t be the first time Dyncorp was involved in some sort of human trafficking.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px1t1-a9uxk

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Sheit, this is some Umbrella Corp tier shit.

    Not that it surprises me.

    Btw, saw yesterday that Propaganda Due (P2) has a rather good Wikipedia article:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due

    Also, since we´re on it: Jüri Lina´s work is an absolute must to look into. (Books & documentaries.)

    Alrenous Reply:

    Point for the ‘probably go’ side of things, weighing against ‘possibly’.

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  • Alrenous Says:

    >Admits their mobs are violent.
    Oops.

    “Memes manage their own security” +1

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  • Eric Juul Says:

    So they admit they lost of war of ideas and propaganda.. great!
    Let the left riot like animals in the streets while we MAGA.

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    pyrrhus Reply:

    And there is nothing so powerful as an idea whose time has come…..

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    Wagner Reply:

    We’re still in a democracy, goys. “MAGA” is a distraction from the futurist aristocracy that is going to usurp this decrepit “rule of the people”– god I want to throw up when I mouth the words “the people”.

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    Wagner Reply:

    “The purely brute mind of the goyim is incapable of analysis and observation and still more of foreseeing whither a certain matter of settling a question may trend…Their eyes are open but see nothing before them…”

    This from the Council of the Alpha Jews is nationalist-idiocy but it also has a truth to it, we should heed it. On the other hand Ashkenazi Jews have never had a Great Philosopher, they’re genetically built to be financiers, bankers, handlers of money that others have made. The Jewish Aristocracy/Oligarchy begs the question of where the value descends into this world. It’s not Jews.

    Wagner Reply:

    JEWS READING THIS HEED THIS MESSAGE

    Posted on February 4th, 2017 at 4:09 am Reply | Quote
  • Wagner Says:

    Nick, I saw this retweeted earlier today and was triggered by the injustice of it:

    https://twitter.com/kantbot2000/status/765735747588685824

    That you are trying to justify yourself by posting this twitter-cut is another injustice. Do you know how scared the alt-right is of you? This fear largely comes in the form of being *avoided* so maybe that’s why you don’t realize it. I saw 28sherman the other day talking to you like he was a suppliant maiden, another time I saw toughguy RorschachRockwell (RIP) challenge you in a very out-of-character manner that displayed the sweat of dread, etc. etc. The cyber-right is afraid of you, you could commandeer them all easily if you wanted. If you started plucking the wreaths of the demagogues that make it up they’d shit their pants and file under your authority. I don’t see why you don’t honestly. This could be the beginning of the Antiversity. What we need is a Dumbledore *Pepe smile*

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    smg Reply:

    lol

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    SVErshov Reply:

    there is obvious shift which is or ignored, or not understood, kind of disintegration of previouse equation: NRx in situation of Alt-Right when Alt-Right was in situation of NRx. In its current form Alt becoming complex and determinisric pursuit. At the same time proliferation of moralism corrupting its ethics. so those equation does not exist anymore in reality and it did not happens because something went wrong with NRx.

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  • Kwisatz Haderach Says:

    Every once in a while you say something that blows my mind. This would be one of those times.

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    Posted on February 4th, 2017 at 4:27 am Reply | Quote
  • Brett Stevens Says:

    The nation-states have fragmented.

    Welcome to the Balkanized future.

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    Posted on February 4th, 2017 at 5:05 am Reply | Quote
  • SVErshov Says:

    still violent idiots managed to outbread violent non idiots 🙁

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    Posted on February 4th, 2017 at 8:06 am Reply | Quote
  • cyborg_nomade Says:

    the left’s strategic short-sightedness is its ticket to hell

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    SVErshov Reply:

    last what I heard, hell refusing to take more any one from Earth, something about transportation cost or closing borders.

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  • Michael Rothblatt Says:

    Meh, violent mobs get purged by the Left’s leaders when they are no longer needed. See Luther denouncing the peasants, Robespierre’s suppression of Enragés, etc.

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  • yado Says:

    @It’s hard to believe how daft these people are.

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    Posted on February 4th, 2017 at 3:41 pm Reply | Quote
  • The Tzimisce Says:

    Interesting

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    Posted on February 4th, 2017 at 5:20 pm Reply | Quote
  • michael ryan Says:

    HMM last I checked memes didnt have hands to hold pitchforks, lets at least be honest memes are a snobbish way of saying my propaganda is more effective at building mobs than yours. In the end the strongest mob still wins. Our memes are more effective because they have become more ridiculous while cutting more people out of the game.Or at least more people actually inside the ground we are meme mobbing. The little antifa fag thinks he has the numbers, hes probably being optimistic about who will fight and how effectively, and he completely discounts the possibility he will lose the elites to better memes or the tide of history, its understandable they have had a tremendous run, it seems different this time. But the worm will turn as always. So how many times will elites abandon proles before they learn.If you want to maintain your status you must let the proles maintain theirs

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    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    They won’t last if things actually turn violent. This, I know for certain.

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    Wagner Reply:

    “if”

    http://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-no-here-I4Jmrcjnr8Zfq

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    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    They’re not yet operating at a level which can merit a response. In a fashion, one could argue that they are playing the escalation game without actually escalating to a level that allows for punishment.

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    « Many people think “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” is anti Semitic “hate literature” and a fraud.

    Nobel Prize winner Alexander Solzhenitsyn wrote that the book exhibits “the mind of genius.” Pretty good for a hoax, wouldn’t you say?

    Solzhenitsyn said it exhibits “great strength of thought and insight…Its design…(increasing freedom and liberalism, which is terminated in social cataclysm)…is well above the abilities of an ordinary mind…It is more complicated than a nuclear bomb.” …

    The author [of the Protocols] makes clear that whoever creates money is sovereign. He ridicules the goyim kings for forfeiting this power and says that he doesn’t intend to repeat this mistake.” When we come into our Kingdom,” the government will change from being “a payer of tribute by loan operations…into a lender at a profit.”

    “This measure will stop the stagnation of money, parasitic profits, and idleness which were useful for us among the goyim so long as they were independent but are not desirable under our rule.”

    Similarly the bankers have financed intellectuals and politicians to promote a mania for “senseless utopian principles” like “collectivism,” “freedom of conscience, equality and the like.” (182) They are designed to bring down the Old Order but will have no place in the New.

    “We have set them on the hobbyhorse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of collectivism…They have never yet and they never will reflect that this hobbyhorse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality…” (159)

    “The purely brute mind of the goyim is incapable of analysis and observation and still more of foreseeing whither a certain matter of settling a question may trend…Their eyes are open but see nothing before them…” (160)

    “Everything in this world is in a state of submission, if not to man, then to … what is stronger. And so shall we be this something stronger for the sake of good.” (163) »

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19F0xgkJnaQ

    The “breaking false gods” looks like straight out of Frankism.

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    Orthodox Reply:

    PEZ was written for anti-semites, but it isn’t really about Jews? Or they were like the Alt-Right types who can see a little further, but still think the Jews are the biggest problem.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    PEZ is probably what it was originally claimed to be: a document lost by a carrier between certain things we´d call now think-tanks.

    Other such documents have been found. It totally matches other similar scripts.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIuW-vNQsQI

    Anyway, I don´t think Jews are necessarily a problem. They´re blamed for things that other peoples have done for all of history. E.g. the Aryan Romans who toppled countless regimes, enslaved other peoples, took their gold, or the Vikings who enslaved, raped and pillaged. Why blaming the Jews for all of this because they are good with numbers is rather pathological (angry guy Hitler, et al).

    Mr. Kwisatz Haderach is acting totally in kneejerk here like an old grump.

    I´m quite the admirer of Marx and Herzl myself, they´re obviously brilliant thinkers, as are many other Jewish revolutionaries and occultists through the centuries.

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  • Kwisatz Haderach Says:

    @G. Eiríksson

    Paging @ Peter Taylor. You recently asked me why I think Holocaust 2.0 is going to happen in the United States if anywhere. Here is exhibit A. Pseudointellectual kooks like this actually believe PEZ is a manual than a secret kabal is following to establish a NWO. And it only gets dumber from here, trust me. Check out The Right Stuff if you dare.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    You´re obviously communicating out of emotion.

    Firstly, I merely quoted. I said nothing of my own beliefs.

    You´re the one who is exposed as a pseudointellectual here, I never thought of you as more than a midwit anyway. One of the “I.Q.” scientism faggot midwits here.

    Secondly, even if it were just fiction the Protocols are obviously a manual and a good manual at that. They´re a honest breath of fresh air, in this age of pseudointellectuality and double-speak.

    Spare us the cowering seethru kneejerk defense reaction, it will only bring on more evidence and this time from something that is not disputed to be “authentic” (who cares they have obvious veracity anyway — i.e. hyperstition).

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Dumb little turd, don´t charge at me when you know nothing what my real positions are.

    « Zionism was a necromantic dream, using necromancy in the apt dictionary definition of “the conjuration of the spirits of the dead for the purposes of magically revealing the future or influencing the course of events.” It had three unique components:

    The rise of a collective messianism. Post-exilic Judaism begins with Ezra and Nehemiah and the return from the first Babylonian captivity. Jews had survived by becoming a people, practicing apartness and being united by the Book. It was a belief in national redemption rooted in the prophets and their system of ethical and social values. But prophecy was overtaken by messianism. The word “messiah” to designate an expected redeemer does not appear either in the Hebrew Bible or in the Apocrypha. It appears first in the Book of Enoch and in that part of the Pseudepigrapha composed in the time of Herod the Great. The theme is no longer the redemption of a people but individual resurrection and judgment at the End of Days. In Judaism, after the false messiahs in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, the belief arose in a collective messianism, the redemption of a people through the resurrection of a nation.

    The people as a race. The designation of race as collective identity had been the theme of almost every major thinker in the nineteenth century. In Jewish thought, the central figure, indeed the first proto-Zionist, was Moses Hess. Hess was the third man in the original Marxian triad: he had converted Engels to communism and had collaborated with Marx on early drafts of The German Ideology. But, as one who had returned to Judaism, he felt that Marx was wrong on the animating spirit in history. In his passionate Rome and Jerusalem (1862), Hess argued that Jews would never find a home in Europe, especially Germany, and as an “historic people” could only survive by ” national redemption.” As he wrote, “Social institutions like spiritual outlooks are racial creations. All of past history was concerned with the struggle of races and classes. Race struggle is primary; class struggle is secondary.”

    The skein of history. History is opposed to modernity. If one asks a ” modern” person, “who are you?,” the reply would be, “I am I, I make myself anew.” The traditional person says: “I am the son of my father.” In the continuity of history, beginning with the covenant, is the collective identity of a people. One can claim a future only by the integration with its past.

    But the whiplash of history has been anti-Semitism. From the Greco-Egyptian author Apion in the first century B.C., and Tacitus a century later, down to T.S. Eliot in our day, the Jew has been regarded as an alien element in a homogeneous culture. It was anti-Semitism–the Dreyfus case–that led Herzl to Zionism.

    Herzl’s The Jewish State, published in 1896, is one of the strangest works of its kind. The brochure–it is little more than that–reads like a blueprint for a real estate development. Its central idea of “The Jewish Company,” which would organize commerce and trade, would be a “Chartered Company,” framed according to English laws. Though Palestine was preferable, one might consider Argentina. Since few Jews could speak to one another in Hebrew, each person would retain his own tongue, and Switzerland afforded proof that such a federation was possible. There is little, if anything, on history; there is a passing reference to religion and faith; and there is nothing on culture. Herzl’s book is probably the most unideological document in the history of politics, nationalist or socialist. And yet what lingers is its emphasis on practicality, something that neither Marx nor Engels ever attempted.

    The bedrock of historic Zionism was ideological: the idea of aliya, the making of a “new Jew.” There were two divergent currents in that history. The dominant one, derived from the ideas of A.D. Gordon, was the cultivation of the land, of physical labor and a communal life–the kibbutz. The second aliya in 1904-1905, which gave Israel its first political leadership, put these ideas into practice. In 1933, half the Jewish community, about 120,000 persons, lived in agricultural settlements. Most of Israel’s commanders– Dayan, Allon, Rabin–came from the kibbutzim. The trade union movement, the Histradut, formed the political base of the movement, and the Labor Party, uniting the two, dominated the country until about ten years ago.

    The second current was the revisionism of Ze’ev Jabotinsky. Its conception of the “new Jew” was a militancy embodied in territorial expansion by military means, a view that Ben-Gurion branded as “fascist.” The children of Jabotinsky were Begin and Shamir and Sharon, but their political base, a new sociological element, was the Sephardic Jews from the Arab countries, whose feelings were fueled by their fear of those countries and their resentment against an inferior status in a society dominated by the Ashkenazim.

    Common to both currents was the rejection of the Diaspora as galut, exile, the home of the “old” features of Jewish existence. Yet Israel today is an anomaly. The ideology sought to “normalize” Jewish life, but the society has become a garrison state. The kibbutzim have been declining steadily and much of the early pioneer spirit has gone. The centennial of Zionism is approaching, yet it coincides (as The Jerusalem Report has put it) with the end of aliya.

    And there are the Palestinians. Twenty or so years ago, some Zionist leaders denied that there was such an entity as “the Palestinian people.” But a national consciousness has emerged. Fleeing or expelled from Israel in 1948, driven from Jordan by King Hussein when their majority threatened his rule, forced out of Lebanon by the Syrians, they have sustained themselves by the emotion of race hatred against the Israelis, and the desire for a state of their own.

    Zionism began as a dream and a practicality. The dream has been achieved, though not as the dreamers imagined. Yet there remains the practicality of Herzl. (In his utopian novel Altneuland, he sketched a society based on technology, and today technology has replaced physical labor as the strength of Israel.) » — Daniel Bell (May 10, 1919 – January 25, 2011) was an American sociologist, writer, editor, and professor at Harvard University.

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    Kwisatz Haderach Reply:

    And you people have so much energy, too. That’s the scariest part to me. Look at all those words. Holy shit! But I’m hoping that it’s actually just impolite copypasta rather than a full blown schizoid ramble, but I’m certainly not going to be arsed to read it and find out.

    Now I understand General von Hammerstein-Equord a little better:

    “General Freiherr von Hammerstein-Equord, the present chief of the German Army, has a method of selecting officers which strikes us as being highly original and peculiarly un-­Prussian. According to Exchange, a Berlin newspaper has printed the following as his answer to a query as to how he judged his officers: “I divide my officers into four classes as follows: The clever, the industrious, the lazy, and the stupid. Each officer always possesses two of these qualities.

    Those who are clever and industrious I appoint to the General Staff. Use can under certain circumstances be made of those who are stupid and lazy. The man who is clever and lazy qualifies for the highest leadership posts. He has the requisite nerves and the mental clarity for difficult decisions. But whoever is stupid and industrious must be got rid of, for he is too dangerous.”

    Kwisatz Haderach Reply:

    Opportune moment to pimp a handy xenosystems user script I’ve got to condense comments written by those on a personal blacklist. Filtration & exit are the keys to paradise, friends. Email me and I’ll send you back the script.

    (Although I fear the damage is mostly done at this point. None of the old-timers seem to be hanging around much any more).

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    You don´t even know what I´m collecting at, you balding detestesteroned “right-wing” forum hanger. You´re a scenester.

    Along with what Herzl says on race, this has to be the most interesting part:

    « Herzl’s The Jewish State, published in 1896, is one of the strangest works of its kind. The brochure–it is little more than that–reads like a blueprint for a real estate development. Its central idea of “The Jewish Company,” which would organize commerce and trade, would be a “Chartered Company,” framed according to English laws. »

    Neocameralism anyone?

    Dick Wagner has been more right than I thought (about a few things).

    Incidentally, I happened to notice other similarities in Moldbug and Land with Marx et al:

    In « Oulanem [writ 1839], Marx writes, ” “If there is Something which devours, I’ll leap within it, though I bring the world to ruins-The world which bulks between me and the abyss I will smash to pieces with my enduring curses. I’ll throw my arms around its harsh reality, embracing me, the world will dumbly pass away, And then sink down to utter nothingness, Perished, with no existence-that would be really living.”” In the same poem Marx writes, “Ah, eternity, she is our eternal grief”. And, “indescribable and immeasurable death, ourselves being clockwork, blindly mechanical, having no purpose save to happen ».

    Virulent nihilism, eh. Compare it with Land´s book.

    Compare also with with: « The early years of the 20th century is thus the final stage of moral crisis, the beginning of which was declared by Dostoevsky in the middle of the 1870s. His novel A Raw Youth (sometimes translated as A Teenager or The Adolescent, from the Russian Подросток) saw the new generation of Russians aspiring to be “Rothschilds.”

    It was rare to find a major writer of most political backgrounds at the time believing any differently.

    Arkady Dolgoruky, the main character, was a symbol of his era. He is illegitimate, and the son of a landowner who was totally dissolute in his life. He was raised by strangers and has no real home. Under nihilism, only power can be real. The nihilist movement was “scientific” in that it only recognized blind cause and effect. Since wealth was the best means to power, Arkady set upon “being like a Rothschild” as his main goal. The book is a condemnation of the mentality that is at the heart of this paper: the destruction that western liberalism and capitalism wrought on Russia. Arkady adopts the ideas of “global citizenship.” »

    Another commonality with Land´s work

    « one of Marx’s friends is a French Socialist, Pierre Proudhon wrote in his book Philosophy of Misery [1847] “Come Satan, slandered by the small and by kings. God is stupidity and cowardice; God is hypocrisy and falsehood; God is tyranny and poverty; God is Evil. … I swear, God, with my hand starched out towards the heavens, that you are nothing more than the executioner of my reason, the scepter of my conscience… God is essentially anticivilized, antiliberal, and antihuman.” »

    And Land´s Intelligence Optimization?, incidentally this correlates: « Ed Warren defined a preternatural spirit, in the book Demonlogist, by Gerald Brittle as: ”…the inhuman spirit …possessed of a negative, diabolical intelligence fixed in a rage against both man and God (p. 9).” »

    Anyway, aside from cowering little kneejerk news-addicted coffee-sipping virtual popcorn eating nihilist mundane soulless book collecting flat-minded geeks, I wanted to make the statement that it´s obvious that Industrialism is a brother Demon to Capitalism. It manifests itself even when capitalism is occulted. I won´t say when capitalism isn´t there, because capitalism is never not there (it is inherent in biology, Marx grasped an aspect of that with his concept of primitive accumulation). The private sphere is never not there. Even in the most collectivised horde it is subtly running. Or, at least Economism is, which is the concept others would rather use. Whatever is happening: forces are trying to capitalise on the earth, for « Intelligence Optimization »(?). It´s simply what Guénon called the Reign of Quantity (another word for economisation).

    — « “The Terror” accompanied, and played an important role in, another vast enterprise, an economic revolution that transformed agriculture and made the Soviet Union a great industrial power. Society was marshaled for the great effort and was itself profoundly changed during the political and economic upheavals. Marriage and family, initially disparaged as bourgeois institutions, regained respectability; education was vigorously The Soviet Union, 1917-1991 13 advanced; all forms of public information, including art, were turned into propaganda; prisons supplied armies of labor slaves; forests were cut down; great quantities of ore were dug out of the earth; millions of tons of iron flowed out of the mills; huge concrete and steel dams were raised up to harness the power of rivers; electrical power was extended ever deeper into backwater areas; and large cities and industrial complexes grew up overnight. The pace was breathtaking, and the cost in human misery immense. »

    THE FORGE

    Let is go some centuries back:

    — « The revolutionaries in England were no ragtag cohort of bakers and tailors, as in Anabaptist Muenster. Anabaptism had disappeared as a significant movement, replaced by something more systematic and insidious, the ideology of Calvin and his police state in Geneva. The revolutionaries in England were not about to take off their clothes and run naked in the streets as had the Anabaptists. The English revolutionaries were a network of families grown so powerful from confiscation of Church property that their names are still known today.

    Thomas Cromwell
    Thomas Cromwell grew enormously rich by plundering monasteries. He then turned to usury to get even more. Cromwell understood his desires were incompatible with the Catholic faith, so he dedicated his life and fortune to preventing Catholic restoration. He instilled these same beliefs in his family. His nephew married the daughter of a usurer from Genoa; together they became the grandparents of Oliver Cromwell, the Puritan general whose hatred for the Catholic faith the Irish experienced at Drogheda a century later. Thomas Cromwell was determined to “lead Henry by gradual steps to a position from which he could not retreat, to terrorize all political opposition by a reign of blood, and to set up a wall of material interest against both the Church and the ancient nobility he and his friends wished to supplant.”

    Cromwell and his famous great-grandson, Thomas Gresham, the author of Gresham’s law, were architects of the new England. Together with the Cecils and the Russells, Gresham helped make England the model for the modern nation. England would turn finance into a weapon more powerful than Philip’s armies. Revolution in Muenster meant communism; in England it meant capitalism. As Marx understood, the beginning of capitalism was the theft of Church property. The former wealth of the Church was put in the service of Mammon when the wealthy English families contested the Jewish monopoly on usury. Gresham was a financial genius who understood the possibilities for financial exploitation at the dawn of the capitalist age. As Elizabeth’s finance minister, he knew how to debase the nation’s currency in the interests of governmental policy and those who ran the government, to the detriment of the majority of the nation’s citizens, who slipped farther into poverty. Gresham also knew how to precipitate financial crises among his enemies. Under Gresham’s guidance England created the wretched proletariat for which it became infamous through Dickens’ novels. Under Gresham’s leadership:

    A whole class of decent Englishmen, of whom too little has been remembered in history, was swept off the church lands and doomed to poverty, vagabondage and often crime: mostly small farmers and farm laborers with their families, dispossessed because the new owners found it more profitable to raise sheep. »
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    P.S. Maybe Mr. Dark Reformation or someone would be interested in this:

    « Authors such as Clinton Roosevelt (author of The Science of Government: Founded on Natural Law), whose ideas pre-dated those of Karl Marx by a few decades and were very influential in the “Social Science of Government,” now known as socialism. »

    Kwisatz Haderach Reply:

    nrx.kwisatz.haderach@gmail.com

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    D. Reply:

    The internet has its own version of Gresham’s Law: Bad comments drive out good.

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    Wagner Reply:

    Erikson please stop getting worked up over riders of the Apollonian baloney pony. Learn from Land who is such a vast Ocean he can absorb fasc streams without being polluted himself. He never blocked you, me, michael, or any other of the psi-operatives that post here because he is a strong oak that has roots deep into Hell.

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  • Kwisatz Haderach Says:

    The right wing does need to become better at activism. Timely: https://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/9395-why-liberal-activism-works-and-conservative-activism-doesnt-exist/page__st__140

    I don’t even know what right-wing activism would look like. @michael is right that memes don’t get us over the finish line. Wife & I are attending a random meetup for Trump supporters tonight on the theory that anyone with the cahones to be pro-Trump in the heart of Pozland has a chance to be interesting.

    The left-wing response to the immigration pause has been impressive. We need something like that.

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    Peter A. Taylor Reply:

    @Kwisatz Haderach:

    I’m afraid I can’t go to The Right Stuff this month. I have already exceeded my kook budget this month by getting on Facebook and reading some of my wife’s political posts. I think I need to unfriend my daughter, too. Going to a political meetup with your wife? Wow, that must be nice!

    For the benefit of other readers, I will explain. A left-left-left-libertarian Jewish man at my church posted on Facebook that he thought discriminating against prospective Muslim immigrants would lead inexorably to Holocaust 2.0 in the US. As near as I can understand it, this theory is that religious neutrality is a Schelling point, and that abandoning that Schelling point in a minor way for one Pain In The Ass (PITA) minority puts us on a slippery slope that will lead to mass murder of a different religious minority that is not a PITA in any way similar to the first. What this means in practice is that the way to avoid mass murder of Jews is to import lots of people who are famous for hating Jews. Looking at it from another perspective, the way to promote religious toleration is to impose policies that make religious toleration obviously suicidal.

    Kwisatz is also worried about Holocaust 2.0, but for the opposite reason: If uncontrolled or perversely controlled immigration is not severely restricted (and it’s probably already too late), the plebes will eventually fight a bloody revolt against the political elites, and that Jews, as a conspicuous minority that is over-represented among the elites, will be the first and most severely retaliated against.

    I was initially very skeptical, but someone pointed out to me several ways that Kwisatz could be proven right. One mechanism is that, when the numerically superior gentile elites are looking for a distraction or a scapegoat with which to save their hides, Jews are everyone’s favorite scapegoat. I think there was scene in a Flashman novel like this, where Flashman was in a carriage being chased by wolves, and in order to save himself, he pushed his lover out.

    Another mechanism is that the revolting plebes have trouble organizing, and will look for some organizing principle that is simple enough that everyone can understand it without having to read _Genocide for Dummies_. Blaming the Jews may be the simplest organizing principle. There’s plenty of precedent.

    On the other hand, Jews are mixed into the American elite much more than in 1930s Germany. They are prominent in leadership positions both in the Cathedral and in the opposition to it (e.g. Trump’s son-in-law and many of his key employees). Holocaust 2.0 still seems implausible to me. Using a civil war metaphor, Jews make up a large number of “officers” on both sides of the war, so it would be like the enlisted men on one side being so mad at the other side’s officers that they shoot their own officers.

    But I must say, I’ve seen more anti-semitism in the West in the last couple of years than I ever thought I would, and from unexpected sources. I think of fascism as left-wing, just not as far left as Communism. I’m tempted to pull a “no true Scotsman” and label the pseudointellectual kooks as leftists. But that’s just blame shifting. It doesn’t solve the problem.

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    Wagner Reply:

    “Wife & I are attending a random meetup for Trump supporters tonight”

    “I have already exceeded my kook budget this month by getting on Facebook and reading some of my wife’s political posts. I think I need to unfriend my daughter, too. Going to a political meetup with your wife? Wow, that must be nice!”

    *Land’s wife is a Jew*

    Wow you boys are cucked faggots. Your wives own you. Why rationalize it? That’s what it is: your wives own you.

    Taylor, your daughter owns you too, my fucking God I’m sickened.

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    admin Reply:

    No one said passing through the Great Gate of Kek would be dinner party. It’s a Scylla and Charybdis moment. Probably inevitable, given the role of populism in voice-amplification.

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    Kwisatz Haderach Reply:

    You summarized my position far better than I could have, Peter. Also, stop scaring me by steelmanning my position.

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    Peter A. Taylor Reply:

    I cannot take credit for this, but it was in a private communication, so I’m not at liberty to say which of the Eldar you should rightly fear.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    This is so absurd. I literally did nothing but quote the PEZ, which I admire, but Haderach jumped to assume as if I had said anything anti-Semitic.

    1) the Protocols of the Elders of Zion exist
    2) they describe using Liberalism for the purpose of judeo-plutocratic globalist autocracy
    3) they´re marvellously well and clearly written
    4) nowadays Liberalism would classify them as a Right-wing manual

    Whoever wrote them for whatever purpose, Jews or not, fiction or not, propaganda or not, they are a goddamn text with instructions and a stern theory of political science.

    In fact, the Protocols are a text on par with Gustave LeBon´s 1895 masterpiece « The Crowd – A Study of the Popular Mind », Albert Pike´s 1871 werk « Morals and Dogma » and Machiavelli´s « The Prince » of 1513.

    All contain stern worldly wisdom, such as which Nietzsche called for (but lo! he called for more).

    Indeed, the PEZ quite describes the two grandpas here (witness the mimetic-recruiting of michael at 5 Feb 1:31 am, and attempting to blame me for the comment decline which had happened a long time before I ever put a post on here, which I circa first did only a little over 6 months ago) and indeed the very topic of this thread:

    « Is it possible for any sound logical mind to hope with any success to guide crowds by the aid of reasonable counsels and arguments, when any objection or contradiction, senseless though it may be, can be made and when such objection may find more favor with the people, whose powers of reasoning are superficial? Men in masses and the men of the masses, being guided solely by petty passions, paltry beliefs, traditions and sentimental theorems, fall a prey to party dissension, which hinders any kind of agreement even on the basis of a perfectly reasonable argument. Every resolution of a crowd depends upon a chance or packed majority, which, in its ignorance of political secrets, puts forth some ridiculous resolution that lays in the administration a seed of anarchy. »

    As for anti-Semitism, I have declared no such blame or hatred of Jews and it is, in a sense, a Christian thing. I.e. it somewhat started as intra-Semitic rivalry.

    I quite envy the Jews that are still patriarchic, as seen in « Hasidic Jews reveal hidden world » (published on Jun 22, 2013): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQWLJhsl-t4&t=206s

    The scenesters here who come for daily news commentary and in-group scene-point joking need (as if) to realize that this site links to the Order of Nine Angles, various hyperstitional mechanisms, along with using Lovecraftian fiction for political analysis.

    Mr. Land is no doubt hoping for the expansion of influence for his ideas by catering to the coffee-&-newspaper-morning-read crowd. Too bad that such populism comes with the price of constant kvetching over hazardous materials and experimental approaches, at least if they´re not dressed up as nice academic fanfiction which the girls and even feminists can enjoy too.

    As for those fantasising about excluding me as if we were in some small town community, they have to realise that this abyss is not and that I can disguise my information through any means available nowadays online. The lurid front is the secret cover.

    No way in hell would I be trapped by such outdated all-too-human mechanisms as triggering scenester feels or vying for monkey hierarchy position. “C-can I come to the p-party too?”, “W-will you s-sign my b-book, Mr. Land?”

    If you think 4chan or Twittter is anything, this is just the start of the century of our Lord the 21st. If you dislike my honesty, why would you rather I use disposable identities and scattered adaptive methods? I am a swarm of devils if pushed

    Ultimately I will bend even AI to my will, and you will spend your days with Weev and Anissimov as your Dungeon Lords hoping for a chance to be forgiven for the day when you goblins out of monkey mimesis needlessly tried to interfere with my honest and venerable operations.

    The heaven which is over your head shall be bronze, and the earth which is under you, iron.

    …And he hath put a new song in my mouth,
    even praise unto our God:
    many shall see it, and fear,
    and shall trust in the LORD!

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    Kwisatz Haderach Reply:

    You think I read the newspaper? Bwah ha ha. You have no idea of my true power level! Outside In is just the warmup before I plunge deep into the [i]real[/i] outer darkness. For this purpose I maintain a markov chain trained only on the Necronomicon, The Thrice Greatest Hermes, the Gnostic Gospels, and all of the Wiccan texts at http://www.sacred-texts.com/bos/index.htm.

    Each day after XS, I drop 500 nanos of pure LSD and then rigorously prepare my mind for the journey ahead, by meditating on my personal mantra “WORD OF GOD MANIFEST” until the trip comes on. Then I study the next 4000 words of chatbot output for at least two hours.

    Nobody is darker than me, bitch! You’re a normie from where I’m sitting. Now excuse me, I have Gnon’s work to do!

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    I thought you were saying you weren´t reading my comments because they were not worthy? Drop the pretension, you jumped the gun with kvetching when I wasn´t even being anti-Semitic, you simply saw me quoting that document and took the utterly boring and predictable move, unconsciously of thinking anyone who mentions that work for any literary value must be a pure judeophobe, and yet you couldn´t resist reading all of my comments, nor even replying to them to show your womanly self-contradiction. The show of, like a negress in the hood claiming “nuh-uh, I can´t hear ya” with fingers in her ears was a cliché.

    O vey, shut it down!

    Kwisatz Haderach Reply:

    Even if you don’t believe PEZ is literally an instruction manual being used by actual cabalists to create a NWO, there are plenty of pseudointellectual kooks like you who do, and that is the only point I was making.

    And yes, I have you on my shitlist now, but I have deigned to click the handy disclosure triangle in order to read your garbage just for the nonce. I can say, it’s not bad, but I still prefer my chatbot.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    “That´s the only point I was making”. Not the case. You were apparently making points about a second Holocaust and this time in the U.S.

    I don´t see much argumentation from you about the most interesting things I´ve presented here, like the actual advice neutrally looked at in the PEZ.

    What, “the only point that you are making that some people might think there are cabals that use political science to create a globalist order”? What are you saying? That isn´t possible?

    That one shouldn´t study the theories of documents if they might be used by anti-Semites?

    What exactly is it about what I´ve said that you think makes me a pseudointellectual?

    Mr. Land gets called a cook or assorted names with similar meaning all the time on-line, also evil or crazy.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    http://imgur.com/gallery/BEi1L

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  • Wagner Says:

    Erikson is a man of God, that is why he should select this option

    “I am a swarm of devils if pushed”

    until the last bubble of Atlantis pops.

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    Wagner Reply:

    *Chinese Land voice*

    POPURISTS!!!!!!

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  • vxxc2014 Says:

    Picking Officers: Prussian General was right.
    BTW the Pentagon keeps Stupid and Industrious and they drive out the rest…
    The Lazy and Clever hide in various niches or just leave.

    “Those who are clever and industrious I appoint to the General Staff. Use can under certain circumstances be made of those who are stupid and lazy. The man who is clever and lazy qualifies for the highest leadership posts. He has the requisite nerves and the mental clarity for difficult decisions. But whoever is stupid and industrious must be got rid of, for he is too dangerous.”

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