Twitter cuts (#48)

I don’t think the diagnosis is seriously questionable at this point. The question is: What to do about it?

ADDED: “Despite the reassuring words that the ‘European way’ is sound and will prevail, both the rampant jihad and the mounting protests from the core of Europe point to the same thing and have the same cause: Europe is rotting and dying.”

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  • spandrell Says:

    Convert! Learning the Koran can’t be any more bothersome than the latest progressive orthodoxy.

    Bacon is tasty, but at this rate progressives will force Veganism on everyone. And lamb is pretty good too. Goat meat is actually awesome.

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    John Hannon Reply:

    “Convert!”

    But to which particular branch?
    For the psychedelic hedonists among us, the ecstatic poetry, music and dancing of Sufism has an obvious appeal – just a pity Sufis have to contend with all the other Muslims wanting to kill them all the time.

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    spandrell Reply:

    You can always spinoff later.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    Clair Khaw, a SE-Asian immigrant white nationalist to the UK, recommends secular Islam as the 5th branch of Shariah. I’m OK with this, but only if it involves Azn wimmen.

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  • grey enlightenment Says:

    As trump and others have suggested: border control , wall, deportation, immigration restriction, national IDs,

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  • First Bayes Says:

    Humour is a good option. Charlie Hebdo had it right, the only problem was they had a meatspace address. The anonymity of the chan boards takes away even that Achilles heel.

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  • Dale Rooster Says:

    I see three sensible options:
    1) Nothing. Embrace the Collapse.
    2) Move.
    3) Create or find your own Visigoth tribe.
    (These are not necessarily mutually exclusive of one another.)

    Actually, wait, I second Spandrell’s idea…convert!

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    Ahote Reply:

    There’ll probably be no Collapse. This thing that we inhabit, The Corpse of the Western Civilization, is going to disappear not with a bang but with a whimper.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    I like the Visigoth option.

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  • Brett Stevens Says:

    Admit that democracy, consumerism, liberalism, altruism and other solipsistic ideas will never solve this problem — or any others.

    We need to make ourselves ready to fix the problem before we can fix it directly.

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    pyrrhus Reply:

    I think we are going to see fragmentation, based on the large number of irreconcilable differences in the West, and also geography and genetics…

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    I utterly agree. I often have bitchfights with Whine Nationalists over this, being an anti-liberal IronPilled Stirnerite I fucking hate Blue Tribe and really dislike Patriotic Americana shit. And Protectionists make my eyes go bloodshot like a Bollywood actor.

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  • Mark Citadel Says:

    Bide our time, and prepare. There’s no turning back at this point. It will be full scale war, as the numbers are too great and there is no way they will leave of their own accord.

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  • Hulagu Says:

    One historical event has haunted Muslims for centuries — the Mongol invasion.

    They laugh at the Crusades, saying they beat back the Crusaders. On the other hand, Muslims today still fear the Mongol conquest, saying Muslims suffered far more under Mongol rule than under Western “oppression”.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA4foarxj_o
    “If you gather all the suffering of the Muslim world today, it does not compare with a fraction of what the Muslim Ummah went under the Mongols.”

    What Islam needs is a strong non-Abrahamic Khan crushing Mecca completely under its heel.

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    admin Reply:

    Gnon’s purpose for Islam is to make AI a lot meaner than it otherwise might be.

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    Thales Reply:

    Well, it’s not like we made SkyNet to kill off Aunt Mildred…

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    admin Reply:

    Quite.

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  • Kwisatz Haderach Says:

    1. For Europeans: Get footage!

    With Open Gates (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc) and other footage of the Islamic crisis are edifying videos for fence-sitting normies. And even if it doesn’t change anything now – though it could – these tapes are history in the making. They could be used by shitlords of future civilizations to resist similar degenerations, like a permanent antigen memory for civilization.

    2. For Americans: recruit the 40 (or so) percent of white Europeans who aren’t pozzed and who are therefore currently rethinking their choice of home country. America is 65% white (250 million whites), and non-Slavic Europe has more than 500 million whites, almost half of which detest what is happening to their countries. We need each white refugee to pass a simple ideological litmus test: how long have you consistently opposed the liberalization of your own country?

    3. Back to the basics of capital: land, cattle, guns n’ ammo

    4. Continue space colony R&D. Elysium is the long term flea-politics solution.

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  • Alrenous Says:

    If race really is as important as some claim, if power is downstream of culture, converting to Islam will do a whole lot of nothing in any case. Europe will change the colour of their flags and then go on being European.

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    Aeroguy Reply:

    real power > culture > kabuki theater/elections

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    Alrenous Reply:

    That’s what I’m seeing too.

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    michael Reply:

    uh no I think it would work out like we would be second class muslims kind of how they treat the nigger muslims only worse because we are a greater threat and history.

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    anon Reply:

    This. Some pretty stupid commentary from people who I would have expected more from. Convert? Conversion does nothing? Let’s consider the current state of Islam. Why is there an informal ethnic hierarchy among Muslims with the Arabs at the top? Why do Muslims in other nations (like Pakistan) supplicate themselves to Arabs even though they are supposed to be “brothers”? Why are the elite units of IS filled with arabs, while the foreign fighters and other ethnic groups are cannon fodder and suicide bombers? That last question doesn’t appear to be a security feature either, considering some of the stories of returning fighters complaining of “racism”.

    Conversion would mean more input from Arab elites (worse than it already is). Then there is also the status aspect of a converted, defeated people. I’m sure that’ll go over real well at a local level in places like Rotherham. Did no one read Moldbug’s references to Schivelbusch’s The Culture of Defeat? You want to avoid Hitler right? There are many paths to Hitler and a defeated culture is one of them.

    Sounds like a real NRx paradise to look forward to. I’m sure those with no skin in the game, like China-living expats and basement dwelling philosophy majors, will sit back smugly [gratuitous vulgar crap-wittery] at their brilliant non-solutions. I’m real glad the choice of strategic thought among the current right is between skinhead race war morons, naive “libertarians mugged by reality,” and accelerationist “our hair is on fire, let’s put it out by diving into a pool of gasoline”.

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    frank Reply:

    There’s no muslim hierarchy with arabs at the top. Arabs were ruled by Turks and Persians for a millennium.

    If whites can avoid genocide due to low fertility and mongrelization, converting to Islam could reinvigorate white nations.

    I imagine Romans were thinking quite similarly about the rapidly spreading cult of Christianity and the declining empire circa 4th century AD. In the end, Europe ended up using the good parts of Christianity and discarding the bad parts. I don’t see why a conversion to Islam wouldn’t play out similarly.

    Nations commit suicide because cultural meaning and vigor–empirically– don’t exist in the absence of a strong alpha religion. Whichever religion has the will to pass the shit test will take over.

    bomag Reply:

    There are many paths to Hitler

    All paths lead to some kind of Hitler. The Caliphate shows up eventually. Our current Soros led cabal just differs in the details.

    Alrenous Reply:

    Trolled.

    michael Reply:

    LOl I pointed out recently admin wont last five minutes in china once the Nebraska farm boys manning the ICBMs are gone. Multi culturalism is a nuclear backed ideology, he may think its his brilliance that trumps his race but breeding will out. This is why I have come to agree with the skinhead morons to a certain extent. A nation must have a biological foundation and maintain that biological superiority.This has been the Achilles heel of the US which it transferred to its client states in the anglosphere and europe, I disagree that “white” or european is insufficient if somewhat problematic substitute after all theres no problem with considering the rights of “blacks” arabs asians etc unfortunately its never going to be a conversation the left doesnt justify itself through argument, as vxxc said so well “they will admit they are wrong when there is a gun to their temple”a race wat is improbable but much more probable than robot AI ,kings, or Davos inviting land to hand down the new new world order. admittedly going out with a whimper is even more likely still theres a lot of ruin in a nation we shall see and anyway oneneeds hope to go on.

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  • Twitter cuts (#48) | Reaction Times Says:

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  • Alex Says:

    https://youtu.be/fzx2DnjoPZo

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  • Mark Warburton Says:

    I’ve recently read ‘Submission’ by Michel Houellebecq, and here are two quotes that stood out for me on all this:

    “Liberal individualism triumphed as long as it undermined intermediate structures such as nations, corporations, castes, but when it attacked that ultimate structure, the family, and thus the birth rate, it signed its own death warrant; Muslim dominance was a foregone conclusion….. If India and China had preserved their traditional civilisations they might have remained strangers to monotheism and eluded the grasp of Islam. But from the moment they themselves be contaminated by Western values, they, too, were doomed.”

    And:

    “The founder of Christianity enjoyed the company of women, he wrote, and it SHOWED. He quoted Nietzsche’s Anti-Christ: “If Islam despises Christianity, it has a thousand fold right to do so; Islam at least assumes that it is dealing with men”.

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    4candles Reply:

    France: the nation of adolescence par excellence.

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    reactionaryfuture Reply:

    Houellebecq wrote that? Wow. I know he absorbed Tocquevilelle who makes that point briefly, but that is flashing De Jouvenel in bright lights to me.

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  • hm Says:

    “that PC stuff.. haha, that stuff is so weird! I can’t believe anyone buys into that stuff anymore. My friends and I were joking around with his girlfriend the other day and we noticed that she had been agreeing with him that lefty stuff is getting really old, we had a great threesome and actually we’re all thinking about voting for Trimp now”

    “Oh me and my friends just got out of the Ariel Pink concert and we’re heading out to make sure we catch the night bikeride, oh shit dude a couple of those guys are right wing but that’s cool check out the new Tortoise album”

    “Oh shit I heard that liberal ice cream store decided to be more right wing for some reason those guys used to be pretty left but I heard they’re moving away from that pc stuff”

    “All these girls were telling me that they thought the left wing stuff was getting old a bunch of my friends threw a party most people now agree that pc stuff is lame”

    “Haha I thought everyone was turning against that stuff right now…thats cool though everyone has their own opinions”

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  • michael Says:

    FREE BREVIK

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    4candles Reply:

    wtf? Britain First video ++ eh? Are we trying to Duck the whole joint?

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    Alex Reply:

    “If there is hope, it lies in t he proles.”

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  • R. J. Moore II Says:

    If the Europeans weren’t full retard these Kebabs would be no danger. They’re generally stupid, poorly armed, vastly outnumbered, broke, and on top of that most of them are ugly and unlikable people. If the magic Fashy Fairy sprinkled Fuhrer dust on the Germans they could export, jail or holocaust these desert savages; the only Islamic country that is even a real country is Iran and it’s distinctly not a part of this (also Iran isn’t a shithole and Aryans don’t like Arabs any more than we do). There is no ‘invasion’, because that implies resistance. The only reason these people have any power is an utter lack of resistance.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    I’ll also add that it’s slightly possible a breakdown of Western power structures will lead the Euros to actually become their inner barbarians again. As Molyneux says, Europeans are nice, until we’re not. And as Kai Maurros said, “Europeans are masters of violence.” If anyone in/assuming a position of authority actually fought back the Judaized Christians (what Moozlams are) would be shredded faster than their disgusting meat dishes.

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    4candles Reply:

    From a European perspective, your name is kinda faggy (just sayin’, straight talker). Have you considered either dropping the II or elongating the R or the J?

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    I’ve never used my name in this form in my life, but it’s a handy robber baron handle. I generally don’t give a shit about what Euros think about anything.

    4candles Reply:

    It was a shoddy comment, my apologies.

    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    Sure, taking offense @ random internet people is pretty pointless anyway. But the main reason I use it really is the Robber Baron effect.

    Alex Reply:

    And thou shalt say: I will go up to the land which is without a wall, I will come to them that are at rest, and dwell securely: all these dwell without a wall, they have no bars nor gates: To take spoils, and lay hold on the prey, to lay thy hand upon them that had been wasted, and afterwards restored, and upon the people that is gathered together out of the nations, which hath begun to possess and to dwell in the midst of the earth.

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  • SVErshov Says:

    considering Eropean problems in isolation is like playing Go in one corner. Go players use to say those who dont know Go will play all his life in one corner (tsumego). there is always trade, to get something you have to sucrifice something. current sytuation is win win for liberals neo-rights on collision course with mullas, what can be better.

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  • Erebus Says:

    As mentioned by others above, the decline and collapse will not be limited to Europe. Generally speaking, Nydwracu had the answer:

    >Cockroach reaction: “The collapse will come and there’s nothing anyone can do about it other than develop the skills to survive by any means necessary — whether that’s survivalism or just learning to techcomm hard enough to make enough money and develop enough competence to be able to bug out. What matters is turning crackers into cockroaches, so that those who are worthy of survival survive, and accelerating the collapse, so that the unworthy ones don’t.”

    This is all there is to it. This is how we must live our lives. How else? It is insanity to place one’s trust in politics — most of all in contemptible European governments, as it’s very obvious that they’re not going to do a thing to prevent their own destruction. There’s similarly no point in trusting in a moribund culture that very few people care for, and many more despise. How many Frenchmen would still die for France? A small fraction, perhaps. The rest would submit to Islam or emigrate.

    The most we can do is become worthy ourselves. Become ready for anything. Accumulate wealth, ammo, usable skills, and social contacts. And accelerate the collapse, so that the traitors and hedonists — those contemptible Last Men — get what’s coming to ’em.

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    michael Reply:

    fighting is not politics its war which is what trumps politics. yeah sure you can boil france until not a frog will jump but now right now enough would and could win the same all over. a revolution need not be leftist populist where is this written cause MM says so fuck him does he look like he can fight? no so of course hes going to say fighting’s pointless.But it neednt be a guerilla war theres a lot of ways to fight but it needs to commence, theres never going to be a collapse or i should say it wont help it will only lend legitimacy to the police state power grab by the left
    start by securing communications social media and new media need to remain erh become anonymous and free. if they cant trace you or silence you or keep you from organizing you have a chance.
    Politics may ultimately be useless but right now we are in an existential race against demographics and a total police state anything at all that can buy a year a month is worthwhile.
    Yes all men should be armed and supplied and moved into white states partly to survive themselves partly to hold onto the little ground we have partly in case of war or patchwork it just makes sense and its really nice too.
    be ready worthy hmm the entire alt right really cant agree on a thing and most of what you suggest wont go anywhere an ideal ought to be hammered out and a right ratchet mapped how do i get these lefty faggots and whores turned into men and women you cant just tell them the robots in charge now.
    sabotage the cathedral seriously hurt them all day every day and dont get caught theres a million ways
    think about how to substitute government with tech a huge percentage of citizens are govt workers
    whatever im bored youre really not doing anything but circle jerking call me if you get a pair

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    vxxc2014 Reply:

    Cheer up mike. The militia back home [2d amendment] advertises in the local GOP mag.

    Not to mention the Sheriffs are a rebellion in waiting [2d amendment again, and yes DEMOCRACY. Sheriffs elected].

    Mike that’s upstate NY.

    Mike this is the wrong place to come for a pair. Rest of alt-right does.

    As far as MM he admitted in UR he’s passive cuz no stomach for violence.

    It’s unnatural for cornered men not to arm and then more unnatural to not fight if armed.

    As far as the police and military they are not progs.

    The entire thing is hollow. What is a problem is tens of millions of govt workers – now there’s an interest bloc. An actual motivated enemy.

    We’ll see.

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  • yyeltzin Says:

    How much can something negative be turned into a positive again? Islams main advantage is that it has a patriarchy. The West has none.
    Now there is a choice of either the West assimilating to Muslim culture and thereby growing back their patriarchy, or growing it back by fighting and resisting Islam.
    Either way, Europe will be rejuvenated by this migration influx. Maybe there will be something better about White Islam vs Brown Islam, but on the other hand, Browns are rapidly outbreeding Whites…

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    Apophenia Reply:

    It’s almost like God has a plan.

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  • whatwedontknow Says:

    Politically correct pussies will die with not even a whimper, as we saw in the Paris attacks, but MAYBE some very smart people will invent very deadly ways to fight back.

    If so few people are willing to resist, that small handful will have to be brilliant indeed.

    I’m talking about a technological Super-Breivik, using biological WMD’s to fight World War Three using genocidal plagues. More likely to attack agricultural crops than people by the way.

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  • Jesse M. Says:

    What time scale are you guys imagining for Muslims to “rule” Europe, as opposed to just be a larger fraction of the population? The “projections” section of the wiki article at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe#Projections mentions an estimate that by 2100 about 25% of Europe will be Muslim. Most other projections I see don’t actually extrapolate out that far, but the ones that make predictions for 2050 tend to only predict a proportion of about 10%, which suggests the growth is slow enough they’re not likely to be a majority by 2100. Are any of you saying these projections badly underestimates Muslim population growth in Europe (and if so, what are you basing that on?), or are you suggesting they’ll “take over” politically even while remaining a minority, or are you predicting the takeover happening well into the 22nd century or even further? Worrying about 22nd-century politics seems kind of pointless to me, if civilization hasn’t collapsed by then we’ll probably have mind uploads or some other kind of AI with human-level intelligence or higher by then, and they’d likely be the ones with the real political power.

    And if AI fails, genetic engineering for higher intelligence still seems like a likelihood. Even if this was used about equally in Muslim populations as in others, note that today there’s a pretty strong anti-correlation between higher IQ and belief in fundamentalist style religious beliefs like Biblical (and presumably Quranic) literalism, if Europe ends up being “taken over” demographically by a bunch of high-IQ people whose ancestors were fundamentalist Muslims but who are now cosmopolitan atheists or Einstein-style pantheists or mystical Sufi types, they would probably adopt most of the same political and scientific and philosophical beliefs as the high-IQ descendants of Old Europeans, so it doesn’t seem like this’d be a great tragedy (not to mention that a decline in fundamentalism would probably lead to a lower birthrate similar to the Old Europeans).

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    Erebus Reply:

    The 2010 Pew Forum poll behind your projections assumed two things:
    -The “leveling off” of Muslim immigration to Europe. (Laughable.)
    -A reduction in Muslim birthrates in Europe. (I could not find good statistics on this, but believe this assumption to be ill-founded.)

    Note the recent influx into Germany. Bavarian politician Uwe Brandl believes that, unless policies change, Germany could have 20 million Muslim residents by 2020.

    https://www.bayerische-staatszeitung.de/staatszeitung/kommunales/detailansicht-kommunales/artikel/dramatischer-appell.html

    This is based on the massive movement of Muslims into Germany, and the assumption that the families of some of ’em will be permitted to relocate to Germany.

    Note that the native German population is below 80 Million and declining. What effect do you think 20 million Muslims will have upon their society and their culture?

    France is probably around or over 10% Muslim right now, and it ain’t 2050 last I checked. (The last statistics seem to indicate that France was 7.5% Muslim population in 2010 — but even this does not take into account illegal immigrants, “migrants”, etc.) How implausible, really, are the events described in Houellebecq’s “Submission”?

    Things are not looking good for western and central Europe. (In addition to France and Germany: Belgium, Sweden, even Switzerland.) Your Wiki projections seems to have included countries like Lithuania, Romania, Poland, Croatia — that is to say, countries without a significant Muslim population at all, and which are not attractive destinations for illegal immigrants, “refugees”, etc.

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    NRx_N00B Reply:

    Erebus, agreed, these laughable projections ignore the dynamics of feedbacks triggered at certain thresholds that only catalyze and facilitate the acceleration of change/collapse: like conflict in the MENA region, African population growth, instant communication networks, endless family reunification/chain-migration, the effects of democracy on accelerating entropy, accompanying social, institutional and economic breakdown, the list goes on and on.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    Intelligent people are more attacted to abstractions, and some intelligent people are highly rule-bound and principled. It’s possible that fundamentalism might be attractive, on those grounds, simply because it’s principled. Certainly Creationism is far less rationally absurd than secular egalitarianism.

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  • michael Says:

    @Kwisatz Haderach
    until 20 minutes ago 99.99999 % of every human that could think worth a shit believed in God and followed their religion. religion I bet is some sort of trait and so while we may not call it religion its religion still. and of course sometimes religion is just an excuse for tribal see below this shocker.

    following the cruz defeat of trump in Iowa
    John Podhoretz [Email him]seemingly
    eager to confirm the most paranoid fears about neoconservatives, declared:

    John Podhoretz ✔ @jpodhoretz
    The Jews win! https://twitter.com/NRO/status/694362300183121921
    10:31 PM – 1 Feb 2016
    81 81 Retweets 94 94 likes

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  • Dark Psy-Ops Says:

    Regarding “converting to Islam”, I think the religion is best understood as an Arabic phenomenon, which naturally thrives in a milieu of hard inbreeding and pedophilia. So unless we desire to marry our 9-year old cousins, depress our IQ, make our women uglier, and use polygamy to select for male aggression, it won’t make a great fit. Evidence points to the aversion of incest as arising from a specific process of natural selection, so in all likelihood we won’t manage the transition. Expressing admiration for Islam is similar to glorifying Nazism, as two examples of militant group cohesion attractive to certain elements on the alt-right. However, conversions are always to be distrusted, unless they are revealed by divine ordinance. Any intentional claim to convert to Islam can be treated with radical skepticism. There are only two choices in Islam, either join ISIS in the jihad to install a global Islamo-Bolshevik caliphate, or adopt the moderate Muslim position of secular reform, which is also, intriguingly, functionally indistinguishable from a politics of taqiya. Neither case presents much in the way of a realistic solution to current crises.

    Ironically, the easiest way to have the Cathedral crack down on Islam would be to have a few million white men convert. It would probably give them the fear. The West is suffering from nihilistic apathy, which is easiest understood as a crises of selection, be it cultural, demographic, moral, or otherwise. The search for alternate ethical systems (even Islam) is potentially a sign of health, though it is more likely an ill-advised submission to an alien killing-machine, and a massive cuck-fantasy. There are other options…

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  • SVErshov Says:

    not sure how Sprandel’s suggestion ‘Convert’ been taken so quite literally, and even sparkle such seriouse debate. It seems to me, that by saying Convert, he meant ‘You are done’, no matter what you do from now. It just sound more attractive then Harakiri.

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    Different T Reply:

    To be clear, are you thinking things like rule by Sharia law, majority Muslim populations, etc. are probable in the West?

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    SVErshov Reply:

    I never even considered such probability. western conversion machine much more intense.

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  • R. J. Moore II Says:

    Agreed.

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