Twitter cuts (#49)

The Internet is a formalism engine. It will engineer consistency, overwhelming all Cathedralist efforts to maintain ‘nuance’ (Left-oriented asymmetry).
Either:
(a) “Hey, we want out Pride™ too!” or
(b) All “X Pride” is evident retardation.
Choose one, unless you’re running a grievance studies program at a Cathedral institution (in which case, disintermediation is coming).

February 10, 2016admin 45 Comments »
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  • Brett Stevens Says:

    The way modern society styles this one:

    Ethnic minority pride is a lifestyle choice or a personality quirk, like fetishes and clothing choice. Therefore, it is beyond criticism.

    Ethnic majority (although world minority) pride is reviving a dangerous historical precedent and is a threat because someone’s civil rights may be infringed.

    This is the problem of egalitarian societies: since they argue from the individual, they always drift further toward supporting exceptions against the rule.

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    Neo Soliar Reply:

    You could also look at places like south Africa where whites were a minority but still the “oppressors”. These situations are just less common for geographic, and historical reasons.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    I do want to say that, though they can fade into each other in practice, there is an elitist-aristocratic individualism that is quite distinct from muhlifestyle. The latter demands social acceptance and status despite qualifications, the former assumes status and those who don’t accept it aren’t worth having it from.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    Aristocratic individualism is always at risk of being Doxxed by slave-morality peasant individualism due to the fact that most people are actually losers and really do care more about relative social status than being worthwhile humans.

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    TheDividualist Reply:

    But the whole point is that they are not arguing from individuals, nor dividuals, but from minority group identities. After all when a single person does it, white pride is just as harmless as brown pride, their whole argument is that the whites are more/powerful as a group than browns.

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  • Stacy Says:

    Leftists have already dealt with this logical contradiction by inventing white, cis, male privilege and by redefining racism as only applicable to those outside the power structure. Minorities cannot be racists because they have no power. Apparently. “Pride” is encouraged to dislodge and fight the power structure. Or, something something.

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    Xoth Reply:

    I prefer to call these redefinitions Academic Racism, or, just to mix things up, Campus Racism.

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  • yapishu Says:

    synchronicity: https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/697500192573169665

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  • Morkyz Says:

    Honestly, there isn’t really an inconsistency. They correctly perceive that white identity politics could translate to nationalism, while the others couldn’t. Is disliking something because the results will be bad (for you and the system you live in) inconsistent?

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    John Reply:

    Consistency is a matter of perspective. The image above reveals the treatment of ethnic pride to be consistent when viewed in terms of the over-arching political goals of the establishment left, but maddeningly inconsistent in the context of an ordinary understanding of fairness, equality, and logic.

    That La Wik (and the left itself) holds such a hypocritical bias is old hat to everyone here, but is not yet obvious to the great mass of “normies”. Hence the formalizing nature of internet postings.

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    Morkyz Reply:

    It seems like the left has a far better intuitive understanding of power (in the context of intra-group competition at least) than the right. When they look at these “identity pride” movements, they immediately ask themselves what the purpose is, they would never even think about viewing it from any other perspective.

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  • michael Says:

    some classic Sailor tangentially related

    “My impression from a wide variety of data sources, such as federal Home Mortgage Disclosure Act data and about a dozen studies of default rates by ethnicity, was that the Sand States Housing Bubble was based in significant measure on the circular reasoning that importing lots of cheap illegal aliens to build houses for people trying to get their kids away from having to go to school with the children of illegal aliens was a sustainable economic proposition.”

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  • Pseudo-chrysostom Says:

    >(b) All “X Pride” is evident retardation.

    You best start believing in identities, you’re in one.

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    Morkyz Reply:

    Be fair, he only listed that as one of two options.

    Still, I think a lot of people have a weird mental bug where they view some thought, tactic, or feeling as being “wrong” regardless of what purpose it serves.

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    MAGA Reply:

    This is your brain on deontology.

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  • Twitter cuts (#49) | Reaction Times Says:

    […] Source: Outside In […]

    Posted on February 10th, 2016 at 11:05 pm Reply | Quote
  • Dick Wagner Says:

    The banner Outside in is a bit misleading as this place is an echo chamber. Jim has a “B.” and his place is still an echo chamber but at least there’s somewhat of an outside in there. “”Admin”” over-purges “”trolls”” methinks.

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    Morkyz Reply:

    i came here to be contrarian but i dont fucking understand this shit

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    admin Reply:

    The troll purging rate here is tiny. Probably an average of one idiot or abusive drive-by in the trash every week. I’m inclined to crank it up much higher.

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    Dick Wagner Reply:

    Stalin would say the purge rate is tiny, but, anyway!

    If Land hadn’t been occupying himself with this blog maybe he would’ve met his Guattari (or would it be more accurate to say Engels). It’s too bad we can’t witness a confrontation of the left and right, Zizek (or Badiou) and Land. Granted it is pathetic that Land is the representative of the Right, and he’s the first step to a Genuine Rightism but most of you folks (Volk lol) only add to the Narrative that Progressivism is the Will of God. This echo chamber is a symptom that rightism is the true monkey-brained alliance. Philosophy “trumps” politics.

    “Politics people” are by nature dirty, and I hate them.

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    Dark Psy-Ops Reply:

    Yeah, OI is missing out on all the insightful analysis of outsiders like you, it’s obvious.

    Dick Wagner Reply:

    Rename this blog Inside in. Land has the same problem of the Nazis – he thinks he’s God.

    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    @Dick Wagner

    Zizek is a likeable media guy, but a rubbish & derivative thinker.
    Nick Land, though often too dark for my taste, is himself, & not a would-be Deleuze clone, in contrast to Zizek oscillating around Lacan, Hegel, & whatever masks.
    You’ve got the same problem as all the other USA lowbrow, identity politicos; of resorting to ad hominem & stupid psychological invective, instead of actually thinking through the ideas. Or there is always the trotting out of sound-byte cliches, & simplistic oscillations around these, as if such could substitute for an actual understanding of their provenance. It’s begininng to seem obvious that the Neoreactiory interest in IQ & intelligence is due to their distinct lack of said quality. Without Land, Neoreaction is just a bunch of resentful inferiors, bemoaning their loss of erstwhile privilege, unable to function without it.

    bomag Reply:

    Can there be any debate when there is no agreement on any premise?

    It’s beginng to seem obvious that the Neoreactiory interest in IQ & intelligence is due to their distinct lack of said quality.

    Even the stupid know that intelligence is important enough to matter in public policy.

    A bit strange from someone who three lines earlier was railing against “ad hominem & stupid psychological invective”.

    Dick Wagner Reply:

    Light Psy-Ops

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    Morkyz Reply:

    Pussy Wagner

    Dick Wagner Reply:

    This hemlock tastes like fish.

    Xoth Reply:

    I only request that the purges be dramatic and public. A brief show trial where the crimes are exposed, possibly followed by pleading, then banning until the poster returns, if at all, after many years with a set of bitter Siberian memoirs.

    Actually, let me adjust that: trivial ones can just be machine gunned over a ditch whereafter the convoy drives on to get lunch at Arby’s.

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    frank Reply:

    Dialectic is the language of the left. Exit is the language of the right.

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    michael Reply:

    where you think you going Crackah, whatch you goy in your pockets motherfucka gimmie dat bitch no one said you takin any my bitches, Now get back in that lab and dont be thinkin you going to try nofin I got my jews watching your ass.

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    frank Reply:

    LOL. For now…

    michael Reply:

    I say the best chance of exit is a deal with putin for a HongKong like economic zone Kalingrad would be nice

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    Dick Wagner Reply:

    I really like what hokey Christian “NBS” once said:

    “A ‘like’ button here would be like teets on a bull. Although it would be a bit funny if the like and the dis-like buttons were both wired to down-vote.”

    That’s the ideal, not the reality. You guys perceive this as a think-tank but really you’re just eating fleas off each other’s backs and cooing.

    And I didn’t mean to denigrate Land, he’s like the Thom Yorke of philosophy.

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    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    “And I didn’t mean to denigrate Land, he’s like the Thom Yorke of philosophy.”

    It would be hard to find a worse insult.
    Miserable minimalism! They are such a very shitty band.

    Xoth Reply:

    Well, Dick, read more than one blog and maybe even skip the comments. Now the dreaded echo chamber disappears. Hasta la vista, Dick!

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    John Hannon Reply:

    Re Outside in being an “echo chamber” – sure it might be entertaining if Zizek showed up here (or even Owen Jones or some of those massively irritating Radio 4 lefty comedians), but ultimately it should be appreciated and cherished for what it is – a safe space for the articulation and elaboration of radically novel and interesting thoughts that simply can’t be found anywhere else. And it’s here 24/7. And free! The sheer intellectual energy that Land invests here is positively humbling.
    And the commentators here are first rate too (excluding myself, of course – my tangential bits of nonsense usually being posted in the wake of a drink and/or drugs binge in case anyone hadn’t noticed), not only in terms of the ideas they contribute but also the style in which they present them (Vxcc2014 being a particular favorite).
    So just value this place on its own terms, Dick. Lurk and enjoy!

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  • Morkyz Says:

    who are insurrealist and NIO? where do they write?

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    SanguineEmpiricist Reply:

    insurrealist is on twitter but is on a trip right now so he’s been absent.

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  • vxxc2014 Says:

    Pick your….SKIN.

    Then pick Family, Country, God you were born with.

    This isn’t hard.

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  • John Hannon Says:

    “Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.”

    – Proverbs 16:18

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  • michael Says:

    The rationale is now hammered out as white privilege, it crushes any special claiming like, but Im irish,slavic, etc. Because black jesus is crucified everyday forever its transcendental if you are a black jesus apostle [no cis white males under any circumstances] you are being persecuted to a lesser extent and can ride his coat tails to utopia there will be no utopia in this life because the first sentence, but hope is dope.
    So what in the fallen world is this privilege?Is it a fiction, certainly not, its earned social trust.Its the inverse of earned social distrust which is stereo typing.Black pride contradicts black stereo type, white pride reinforces white stereotype.Stereotype is not transcendent it is rooted in the fallen world truth is transcendent in the eternal present where black jesus is being crucified yet again his religious mother and the whore mary are weeping at his feet black jesus will let them bitches ride with him. On crosses along side of him are the universal brown man vaguely amerindian asiatic,on the other the homosexual, their sacrifice is not the same they are not innocents they aspired to whiteness they denied the black Jesus once, BJ has their number for later. The SJW hipster judas is hanging himself privately he never understood black Jesus transcended all his petty worries about global warming ,art ,politics, etc.

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  • michael Says:

    @Stacy
    somewhere is a cuck like meme that cuts to the essence of privilege is earned social trust. The best I have come up with is something along the lines of ” office cred” as opposed to “street cred”If someone wants DENRX glory figure it out.

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  • Dick Wagner Says:

    Hey man I’m you, I’m just saying the anti-Cathedral has become its own Cathedral, baby.

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  • Artxell Knaphni Says:

    @bomag

    [bomag]: “Can there be any debate when there is no agreement on any premise?”

    {AK}: Such a lack of agreement would be significant in itself. What better symptom could there be, to debate?

    [bomag]: “Even the stupid know that intelligence is important enough to matter in public policy.”

    {AK}: Could it be that the very idea of “public policy” is stupidity, a contrived & constrictive representational mediation that can only cause confusion?

    [bomag]: “A bit strange from someone who three lines earlier was railing against “ad hominem & stupid psychological invective”.”

    {AK}: Yes, you’re right. But was I inaccurate?

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    bomag Reply:

    Dear {AK},

    I suppose that people with nothing in common have a lot to talk about; but not really.

    You might not be interested in public policy; but public policy is interested in you.

    In matters of intelligence, everyone is above average.

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