Twitter cuts (#68)

The Outer Right provides the formal critique of democracy. It will be the Left, though, that graphically closes the curtain on it.

The defense of democracy in political theory is that it offers an alternative to violence as a mechanism for regime change. How’s that working out?

The democratic principle: Violence is only illegitimate when it is employed to resist leftward progression. By November, the only people still buying into that will be the mobilized forces of the Cathedral regime.

June 3, 2016admin 26 Comments »
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  • Twitter cuts (#68) | Neoreactive Says:

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  • smg Says:

    Watching the news this a.m. with my son, we counted the number of times various “reporters” used the passive voice to describe the “protests”. We counted 11 times.

    Violence broke out
    Clashes took place
    Confrontations were reported
    Slogans were shouted

    All videos I’ve seen show Trump supporters being physically assaulted by anti-Trump thugs, but CNN, MSNBC and the rest were very careful to obfuscate responsibility. I wonder how many people will become woke from viewing these?

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    michael Reply:

    It usually is more like “trump rally turns violent” “Trump supporters and protesters clash” This is trumps problem he knows theyre fucking him but he cant get the exact quotes right.

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    Posted on June 3rd, 2016 at 4:37 pm Reply | Quote
  • Dale Rooster Says:

    People will give up on democracy in more ways than one. I don’t want anyone to get hurt. But the upside would be the fallout–more skepticism regarding US democracy itself.

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    Posted on June 3rd, 2016 at 6:17 pm Reply | Quote
  • VKR Says:

    Similar historical circumstances are likely to lead to similar consequences. Weimar and Weimerica heading into similar directions. Lefty harassment of NSDAP lead to the establishment of Saal-Schutz (Hall-Protection) which later grew into the Schutzstaffel. We can look forward to right-wing voters establishing self-protection groups.

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  • Kwisatz Haderach Says:

    “Democracy” can handle one-sided violence without breaking down. The machine is tolerant to high levels of contradiction.

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    Kwisatz Haderach Reply:

    In other words, “the mobilized forces of the Cathedral regime” is nearly everyone, from Goldberg to Sharpton. The Cathedral can tolerate the rape-torture-murder of members even of its inner party without changing a single talking point. It can easily tolerate the egging of an out-grouper.

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  • Brett Stevens Says:

    The Left promises pacifism through equality. What happens in reality is that the means become more important than the ends, and applying equality takes over from all other considerations, including avoiding violence.

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    michael Reply:

    The left has never promised pacifism, its always threatening violence but like any good thug they make you party to your own destruction to shame you out of retaliation it goes something like dont make me have to hit you, Trump brings message to border what did he expect.

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  • grey enlightenment Says:

    not getting assaulted: another reason to choose pacifism . liberalism at its core is an inherently violent ideology

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    michael Reply:

    hows that working in Tibet

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  • michael Says:

    http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2016/06/open-season-on-dissidents.html you were scooped

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  • michael Says:

    ” the left” has never been really a part of democracy, They are guided by any means necessary.Democracy was something they took advantage of like classical liberalism, and Christianity. When they are done riding them as far as they can they shoot and eat them. Yeah sure a la MM democracy is demotic but kings and stalin have a lot in common too.

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    frank Reply:

    Oh come on now. Haven’t you been paying any attention? Democracy is high-low incarnate, which itself is non-military politics incarnate, which is another way of saying leftism.

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    michael Reply:

    yes Ive been paying attention for decades [like 5] Im not some former lib er tarian flipped by MM. I thought i was making it clear i wasnt really arguing MMs critique just pointing out that “the Left” really just uses democracy the way it used Christianity, and the republics of liberal democracy.Here let me spell it out, was Stalin elected?Mao,Cromwell, Robespierre. Does the left really give a shit what the people want when it isnt what they want? Or do they riot at political conventions,after jury verdicts,etc? Do you seriously think they will fight for democracy if it were to go against them or would they suddenly find fascism appealing Chavez Peron FDR.What is leftism actually about;is it about majority rule or is it about elite rules using majoritarianism as cover? What is the purpose of the Cathedral;to gin up popular support for policies elites dream up at Harvard? do they actually need this support or is it simply insurance? If it was already the will of the people why the cathedral, no its the cathedral changing the will of the people and now changing the people.Without quibbling with MM on democratic demotism its still pretty fucking obvious the people are not liberal but the cathedral can get people behind almost anything. Yes sure the backdrop of democracy lends an air of legitimacy when the cathedral is dealing with a people steeped in democracy. When the left wanted change in people steeped in theocracy that worked fine too. When they want liberalism in people steeped in strongmen fascism works fine.What is leftism them? Is it demotism hell no demotism is a weapon they use to destabilize resistance to a competing authority. Liberalism is bureaucracy over hierarchy

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    frank Reply:

    Stalin, Mao, Cromwell, Robespierre… All rightists considered in their respective contexts — stopping leftist singularities.

    Trying to understand leftism as an ideology is not too useful. It’s about grabbing power through non-military means — which, being rabbits, they lack. Democracy is pure high-low. Hence, democracy delenda est.

    Either democracy becomes a dirty word again, or human civilization is done.

    michael Reply:

    🙂 I get your point R/K, and violence is foundation of civilization etc but If liberalism were simply a non violent way of getting power it wouldnt be a problem and if it were we could just kill them.Trying to understand your enemy is always useful to some degree. Contextualizing leftism is a dangerous game, stopping leftist singularity implies the end of history. i think the left eventually understands things like hierarchy and recently even capitalism and uses them when convenient, as it does religion and democracy and republicanism and fascism and whatever s at hand, some more useful than others.

    I think MM had some good points but perhaps they get conflated. Leftism is like a religion particularly Christianity because its altruistic unrealistic and futuristic [do something selfless because in the future it will pay off] He also understand the perverse incentives in modern democracy. And the social signaling death spiral that supports it.

    Leftism is an attempt at a better order, Society gets tuned well enough only minor problems are left to solve.These problems are really the cost of designing a large scale order on average inputs. Leftys think they can get it better and usually start with a reasonable suggestion but dont stop at the point of diminishing return. Ironically they are by definition nerds who ought to be dispassionate perhaps that changes.
    What may be happening is behind this are evil commie jews or something that ensure it gets out of hands. Its not the mob that forces it not the voters they are manipulated by the cathedral, They could be convinced of anything. it could be the cathedralites [as opposed to the elites] who are not nerds and they force it beyond efficiency.driven more by religion.Democracy coupled with a cathedral is a pretty nifty machine. It can convince a population they are coming up with whatever ideas you want to try if they fail its the peoples fault no revolution possible. Theres nothing wrong with wanting to tweak society as it evolves markets work well for some of this but sometimes need a tweak, Nothing wrong with leftist wanting to sacrifice for better nation. Bad information and bad suppositions problem cathedral needs to be seized and put to better use.

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  • michael Says:

    Theres voice theres exit and theres killing faggots talk, and bulshit walks, men kill

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    Aeroguy Reply:

    If Trump=Pinochet then sure, why not. But that’s not going to happen. If you think peasant revolts (a middle class peasant revolt without the underclass to fight for them at that) typically end well, then you’re an idiot.

    The US Military is trained extremely well to do exactly as their civilian masters tell them to. Remember that time MacArthur went in and crushed the Bonus Marcher Vets, no questions asked? FYI, leftist’s were never pacifists, they just good at defending their allies while pretending to be on your side, when it’s their actual enemies they’re war hawks who will firebomb them all and let god sort them out. They have lists (and metadata) and they’ll suspend habeas corpus. If you want a successful insurgency, you need an outside power propping it up (what they’ll tell the troops wither it’s true or not in case you were wondering how they could possibly get the soldiers to continue believing they’re “defending freedom”). Putin and China won’t do that because the long protracted and especially bloody war would collapse the global market and potentially involve an ending that includes nuking them out of pure spite.

    The right escalating into violence WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF THE PTB (a Pinochet is a prerequisite for violence) is exactly what the left wants. You’ll never find a Pinochet among US flag officers because they’ve already been purged and Affirmative Action flag officers are swelling. But that doesn’t mean a future Pinochet isn’t out there, you have to look in the right places, he won’t be middle class.

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    michael Reply:

    I dont disagree I could make your case even stronger and I could argue against it. Heres the thing they are shutting down voice and the exits do you want to die like a man?
    Sure they have way of vetting the entire Cathedral but I bet it is still rife with dissidents and sociopaths and just plain disillusioned.The army is never going to shoot US citizens except in very discreet instances like a riot. If you knew many of these guys you would know that,The cathedral knows it and wont try it which is why they try to brown and feminize the armed forces but reality wont cooperate. If the Cathedral deployed an army against US citizens the entire nation would rise up in a week trust me you must not be american.What is more likely is they will you their technology against individuals.I dont think trump = pinichet and though in a while im sure a lot of whites would vote for pinochet by then there wont be enough whites to win an election. what is needed is men who are willing to build an apparatus to defeat them by wits violence may play a part politics might too,4g warfare certainly,counter tech, intelligence gathering, technology but ultimately the problem no one is trying except by politics, blogs are politics.a mossad needs to be built

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  • michael Says:

    Maybe the Trump Bikers and Vets should volunteer to guard the Trump rally’s. Anyone got their twitter address?

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  • frank Says:

    O/T

    I hadn’t seen this gem before. Mencius — before he was Moldbug that is — shares bits from his basiliks construction recipe in 2006:

    “My view is that the only way to even conceivably succeed in shaking someone’s faith by reasoned discourse is to make the subject do almost all of the work. I think you have to appeal to curiosity – you have to lay a little trail of cognitive M&Ms, so to speak. Each step along the way is a resolution of some paradox which is perplexing, a source of “cognitive dissonance” if you will, until the subject applies the intended lesson and clarity is achieved. People in our heavily indoctrinated intellectual universe are very used to living with a high level of cognitive dissonance – pragmatism just tells them that there are no simple answers. The reflex of seeing something under one’s nose, as Orwell put it, and instantly looking away, is deeply ingrained. ”

    The whole thread is well worth a read — it’s basically prelude to UR.

    [spoiler]
    “I am a liberal, and I believe that the definition of liberal government should be based on what the state does, not whatever process it uses to select its leaders.”
    [/spoiler]

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  • michael Says:

    https://youtu.be/b8ME0RJaAXY What even a 78 IQ can tell you a 140 cant.

    RIP ALI THE GREATEST

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  • Tentative Joiner Says:

    (((Echo))) becomes far more interesting if you interpret the parentheses as TX.

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    Tentative Joiner Reply:

    Examples:

    REALITY = 153
    (((153))) = 69109
    “69109” = 25
    25 = DC

    Washington, D.C.?

    DONALD TRUMP = 237
    (((237))) = 133769
    “133769” = 29
    29 = T

    “T” for “testosterone”?

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