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It’s a clear sign of how seriously Radical Islam is taken by the foreign policy establishments of civilized states. Roughly, it’s treated as a biological weapon, to be used against real adversaries (you know, those who are not mere hill people). That’s not going to change much anytime soon, however much one might want it to.

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  • Brett Stevens Says:

    Middle Eastern instability has spilled into Russia in the past. It may be the regulatory method Washington is using to keep the Russians relatively inert.

    If so, what idiots they are. Bill Clinton had a chance to end this once and for all when the Soviet Union collapsed.

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  • Anomaly UK Says:

    My views have changed substantially over the last 12 years, but that is what I first started my blog to say. (Though back then it was European politicians using the hill people against the USA).
    http://anomalyuk.blogspot.co.uk/2004/11/is-europe-becoming-islamicised.html

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  • Dark Reformation Says:

    Ok, put your Straussian hat on……

    My first reaction when I grasped what Moldbug was apparently arguing for was “so this is the West’s answer to”….

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir

    My second reaction was this: “what would Bad Boy Bin do if he understood the Cathedral? And now, what would Big Boss Baghdadi do?”

    Recall, gentlemen, the grand strategy:

    http://breakingdefense.com/2016/06/confronting-conflict-in-the-gray-zone/

    http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pdffiles/PUB1303.pdf

    And:

    https://theintercept.com/2015/11/17/islamic-states-goal-eliminating-the-grayzone-of-coexistence-between-muslims-and-the-west/

    “IN A STATEMENT PUBLISHED in its online magazine, Dabiq, this February, the militant group the Islamic State warned that “Muslims in the West will soon find themselves between one of two choices.” Weeks earlier, a massacre had occurred at the Paris offices of the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo. The attack stunned French society, while bringing to the surface already latent tensions between French Muslims and their fellow citizens.”

    Now, if what we have here is the “high-low” strategy practiced by the Brahmins, and if these particular “lows” have no real interest in being pawns of the Brahmins, and who are in fact rivals for high status, then there exists opportunities for the law of evolution by natural selection to work on. As Christopher Coker pointed out: “war will not end until it has exhausted its evolutionary possibilities.”

    What do I mean by “opportunities”?

    I mean incoherence in the system. Napoleon’s flanking and rear stratagem:

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?317821-Tutorial-One-of-Napoleon-s-biggest-secrets-the-Maneuver-to-Battle

    It presents itself as a “outreach opportunity” for those with vision. The gods know the future, the common people only what they see, but the wise see what is about to happen.”

    https://darkreformation101.wordpress.com/2016/06/25/the-dark-reformation-part-4-the-islam-delusion-and-kuffars-for-the-caliphate/

    https://darkreformation101.wordpress.com/2016/06/30/the-dark-reformation-part-4-a-vison-for-a-new-arabia/

    “Cthulhu swims slow, but he only swims left; Allah dances fast and furiously, but he only dances right.”

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    anonymous Reply:

    This is a pretty interesting angle; but I don’t think ISIS has enough resources to full something like that off. It still looks like a dog let out of its chain to me, and dogs are easily put down.

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  • Jefferson Says:

    I was just reading about the Tatar vs. Cossack century long death match in and around Ukraine. Human nature is what it is; history echoes.

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  • Mark Citadel Says:

    And now they are attacking Yemen in addition to Syria, as if the people there haven’t suffered enough with Saudi airstrikes and blockades. And then have the audacity to accuse Russia of ‘war crimes’! It would be a comedy if it wasn’t a tragedy. I just hope if Hillary wins that Assad can mop up most of the rebels by January. Aleppo should be a game-changer, if his recent interview on Russian TV is anything to go by.

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  • Artxell Knaphni Says:

    [NL] ” those who are not mere hill people]

    {AK}: Would that be Middle Eastern ‘Hillbillies’?

    Hillbilly is a term (often derogatory) for people who dwell in rural, mountainous areas in the United States, primarily in Appalachia and the Ozarks, Uwharrie Mountains and Caraway Mountains. Due to its strongly stereotypical connotations, the term can be offensive to those Americans of Appalachian or Ozark heritage. “Hillbilly” first appeared in print in a 1900 New York Journal article, with the definition: “a Hill-Billie is a free and untrammeled white citizen of Alabama, who lives in the hills, has no means to speak of, dresses as he can, talks as he pleases, drinks whiskey when he gets it, and fires off his revolver as the fancy takes him.” The stereotype is twofold in that it incorporates both positive and negative traits: “Hillbillies” are often considered independent and self-reliant individuals who resist the modernization of society, but at the same time they are also defined as backward and violent. Scholars argue this duality is reflective of the split ethnic identities in white America. [1]”

    Cultural implications

    The hillbilly stereotype is considered to have had a traumatizing effect on some in the Appalachian region. Feelings of shame, self-hatred, and detachment are cited as a result of “culturally transmitted traumatic stress syndrome.” Appalachian scholars say that the large-scale stereotyping has rewritten Appalachian history, making Appalachians feel particularly vulnerable. “Hillbilly” has now become part of Appalachian identity and some Appalachians feel they are constantly defending themselves against this image.[5]

    The stereotyping also has political implications for the region. There is a sense of “perceived history” that prevents many political issues from receiving adequate attention. Appalachians are often blamed for economic struggles. “Moonshiners, welfare cheats, and coal miners” are stereotypes stemming from the greater hillbilly stereotype in the region. This prejudice has been said to serve as a barrier for addressing some serious issues such as the economy and the environment.[5]”

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    anonymous Reply:

    Shit like “culturally transmitted traumatic stress syndrome” is why sociology is a complete joke.

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    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    Ok, are you going to jettiison ‘mass hysteria’; ‘mass hallucination’; etc., as well?
    What are the explanations given for the Tea Party-Trump thing?
    Is not ‘Neoreaction’ itself a “culturally transmitted traumatic stress syndrome” occasioned by a perceived lack of accord with Neoreactionary values, whatever those might be?
    It’s possible to see everything as a joke, if one keeps thinking, but that’s not a big deal.

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    G. EirĂ­ksson Reply:

    culturally transmitted traumatic stress syndrome is real.

    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    ‘anonymous’ seems to think it’s “Shit” & the reason “why sociology is a complete joke.”

    Therefore, combining both notions, The ‘Real’ is “Shit” & the reason “why sociology is a complete joke.”

    This, of course, is the result of Occidental cultural production. lol

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  • Aristocles Invictvs Says:

    Hope you like this Nick, forgive me for this abomination:

    https://i.imgur.com/segFjB0.jpg

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    Dick Wagner Reply:

    I once asked my wicked smart prog friend what he thought about the Dark Enlightenment and he said something like “Nick Land the man is the problem. If there wasn’t a cult of personality around him there would be no Dark Enlightenment”. He’s butthurt because he’s a big Fanged Noumena fan and I’m pretty sure he’s a Jew but I think he made a good point. I asked him about HBD and he said the Human Genome Project has refuted HBD then I asked him for a link and he didn’t send me one. Blow it out yer arse as the brits say. Leftists can’t look Hierarchy in the face, they can only ignore or censor it.

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    G. EirĂ­ksson Reply:

    ive been reading Land´s for 2 years. ive interacted w/ a lot of those who read him. even behind closed doors. there is no cult of personality.

    people use that phrase…, well just read big N re ressĂŠntiment. people say there´s a cult around anybody who really makes a name for himself.

    i think those who use the term “cult of personality” frivolously should be metaphorically shot in the neck.

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  • Alrenous Says:

    I still think the post-2001 invasions were about Iran, not, Al Qaeda, being that Iraq is on one side of Iran, and Afghanistan is on the other side. iran seems vaguely civilized, so it makes sense they would take it vaguely seriously.

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    Mike Reply:

    Indeed. For some reason, everyone seems to have ignored that Iraq borders Syria, Iran, and Saudi Arabia. Getting a country in such a position as a client was quite clearly the point of deposing Saddam – a point that seems to have eluded everyone.

    Iraqi PMs are basically all Thieu and Rhee to the American left, so not surprisingly Iraq got hung out to dry by the Democrats.

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    G. EirĂ­ksson Reply:

    isn´t Iran like more civilized than a lot of actual neighborhoods in the West now?

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    anonymous Reply:

    That was confirmed straight out of the horse’s mouth years ago. Iran is Israel’s biggest threat in the region.

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  • michael Says:

    you think they actually have a plan? its pretty clear they dont they even bomb themselves, one day its rough triangles another pussy riot, the next zionism then arab spring then lets rape Khadafy for old times sake. They are signalling alt right please conquer us we cant stop ourselves

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    michael Reply:

    Pittsburgh (AFP) – President Barack Obama on Thursday decried America’s “wild, wild west” media environment for allowing conspiracy theorists a broad platform and destroying a common basis for debate.

    Recalling past days when three television channels delivered fact-based news that most people trusted, Obama said democracy require citizens to be able to sift through lies and distortions.

    “We are going to have to rebuild within this wild-wild-west-of-information flow some sort of curating function that people agree to,” Obama said at an innovation conference in Pittsburgh.

    “There has to be, I think, some sort of way in which we can sort through information that passes some basic truthiness tests and those that we have to discard, because they just don’t have any basis in anything that’s actually happening in the world,” Obama added.

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    Dick Wagner Reply:

    >the word ‘truthiness’
    >coined by THE satirist of the O-V castes
    >of course

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    frank Reply:

    >you think they actually have a plan?

    Exactly. Cathedral is completely decephalized. They don’t read Greg Cochran. They don’t understand HBD. Even if a Cathedralite does have some clue, he shuts his mouth airtight and keeps his crimethink to himself — that is if he can overcome built-in crimestop.

    Cathedral doesn’t have intelligent agency. It’s a bunch of mid-witted people that are too busy worshipping their own anus to have a clue. Once their mind-control complex is jammed, they’re toast.

    The most parsimonious theory that describes Cathedral foreign policy is that it’s a decephalized war machine part-time controlled by paranoid Israelis.

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    G. EirĂ­ksson Reply:

    it´s actually septem-cephalic

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    anonymous Reply:

    It’s called ‘divide et impera’. The English had perfected the practice over centuries. That’s how a tiny island conquered the globe. Israel learned from the best.

    @Frank: everything seems to be going well for Israel so far. Their neighbouring states are getting weaker, all the while americans pay the bill, and europeans suffer the consequences. Part-time? The war machine seems pretty “cephalized”.

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    G. EirĂ­ksson Reply:

    replay of Rome.

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    frank Reply:

    What does destroying Iraq achieve? What does destroying Libya achieve? Syria? Egypt? These countries are much more dangerous to Israel when they’re failed states than when they’re intact and governed by incompetent baathists.

    As we’ve seen in the Six-Day War, all the Arabs combined is at most a nuisance to Israel.

    But, while angering the entire world, including white gentiles, Israel is incapable of doing anything about real threats, which come from Iran and nuclear-armed muslims.

    The day when Israel no longer controls the leash of the US war machine is rapidly approaching, and all Israel has done in the mean time is fan the flaming anger of those minority of muslims that might just achieve nuclear delivery capacity. Does this look like an intelligent strategy to you? Or missteps due to paranoid miscalculation?

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    G. EirĂ­ksson Reply:

    revenge-politics isn´t rational. it´s libidinal.

    anonymous Reply:

    Failed states are impotent. You can quarantine against neighbouring insurgent conflict. You can’t quarantine against war pushing into your territory. A failed state is too busy consuming itself in chaos. A functioning state has organised armies to send against you. This is the whole essence of “divide and conquer”, and why it is useful — make your enemies fight for you by fighting against itself.

    The point seems to have went over your head.

    Ryan C Reply:

    civil war is an efficient method of committing genocide

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  • Dark Reformation Says:

    @michael @Frank @Alrenous

    (I think Alrenous is closer to the money here.)

    I offer a counter argument that USGs actions are rational given a set of assumptions.

    1: They are acting in their, Israel’s and Saudi Arabia’s interest.

    2: The broad goal:
    A: Prevent an Islamist challenger by preventing a hegemonic middle-East state.
    B: Prevent such a challenger having nuclear weapons. (Pakistan was lost alas).

    3: More specific goal: Encircle, and weaken Iran. (Take out Syria, beat up and weaken Hezbollah.
    4: End goal: Carve up the Middle East into small, tribal, weak and angry statelets. Divide and rule.

    Bonus:

    1: Give Russia a bloody nose. Cause it to lose its base in Syria, bleed it of money and men and damage its international reputation.

    2: Honey Pot Strategy. (Use an empty honey pot to attract, trap and kill wasps.)
    Explanation: The war attracts Sunni men to go fight and die. Thus, it removes these men from society and from the gene-pool. (Double Bonus: Lots of nice propaganda to use against “evil” Islam which is not “Islamic.”
    3: Testing ground and practice. USG gets to use its toys and try out any new ones. Plus, it gives them practice. Plus, it justifies military spending.

    Domestic bonus:

    1: Causes Messenger violence at home, which allows the state to expand its power over society, which can then be used against any and all enemies of the state.
    2: Provides opportunities to bring in immigrants (invade the world invite the world. I.e new customers.)
    3: Creates social unrest and riles people into political extreme groups. Divide and rule again.
    4: Divide and rule domestic Muslims. Allows the state to create a conceptual box: “moderate” Muslims good, “radical” Muslims bad. Seduce those Muslims (gays, radfems, democrats, and others with gibs (power, prestige and money) in order to create new supporters and provide cover for tackling “radical” Islam.
    5: Provide cover for taking on and interfering in Muslim religious affairs. Eventually, control of the “repeaters” and “kernel” I.e Mosques, schools, Imams, and their message is the goal.
    6: Counter-narrative. “We are helping the good Muslims, against the bad Muslims.” Look at all our humanitarian efforts! Please stop raping the children and blowing up our airports!

    Long-term bonus:

    1: If it comes to war against Russia and China, USG and EU may have potential canon fodder among the Muslims both at home and abroad. I.e Russia is a an Ally of Iran “boo hiss!” Jihad time.

    All of what I have said is coherent and plausible. Is it true? Have the wiki leaks not given some ground here that it is true?

    Remember what Kissinger said: “it is a pity they both cannot lose.”

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    michael Reply:

    basically rough triangles and i bought that for a while what i think is really happening is some days they let the zionist decide rough triangle then obama gets a turn and invades for gay rights then the general get to clean up some messes then state gets a turn

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    Anon Reply:

    “End goal: Carve up the Middle East into small, tribal, weak and angry statelets. Divide and rule.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinon_Plan

    https://www.academia.edu/3265472/The_Construction_of_Druze_Ethnicity_Druze_in_Israel_Between_State_Policy_and_Palestinian_Arab_Nationalism

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    Ryan C Reply:

    2: Honey Pot Strategy. (Use an empty honey pot to attract, trap and kill wasps.)
    Explanation: The war attracts Sunni men to go fight and die. Thus, it removes these men from society and from the gene-pool. (Double Bonus: Lots of nice propaganda to use against “evil” Islam which is not “Islamic.”

    ^-
    that’d work if it wasn’t for the fact that there is a billion muslims in the world. sure, maybe a few skittles may be poisoned, but that’s per hundred.

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    anonymous Reply:

    Bingo.

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    Chris B Reply:

    Look up the green belt strategy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_Game
    This accords well with the theory of culture being top down. The newness of “Islamism” and the locations of its origins should add extra clues.

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    G. EirĂ­ksson Reply:

    see also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTg4qnyUGxg&list=PLtPP_-rkrT3CmuUxjezhbewL5C8fcI1Fv The Power Of Nightmares
    by Adam Curtis (2004)

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    frank Reply:

    Here are the problems with your angle:

    (1) Iraq has basically become a puppet of Iran — so much for encircling Iran.

    (2) Endless wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria cannot be continued ad infinitum. If the purpose was to encircle Iran, they should have attacked Iran 10 years ago.

    (3) What’s up with the Iran deal? They encircle Iran in the morning and give an unprecedentedly good deal to Iran in the afternoon. Michael’s explanation that Cathedral is just a brainless zombie fits better.

    (4) Honey pot thing would work if it wasn’t for the fact that these wars are creating orders of magnitude more jihadis than they’re consuming.

    (5) You don’t have to invade the world to invite them. The entire world would buy their tickets to America in a heart beat if the borders were open.

    (6) Incompetent but relatively orderly baathist states are a lesser security concern than failed states all around.

    (7) All the invited 3rd worlders hate Israel with a raging fury. It’s not inconceivable that an islamo-socialist coalition grabs power in, say, France, in 20 years. Which means in mere decades, nuclear arsenals with ICBMs will be controlled by psychotically anti-semitic muslims. Congratulations jews, you’ve just ensured being glassed in 30 years’ time just to neutralize what, Saddam’s army? *slowly claps*.

    I’d call this borderline retarded if I didn’t know Ashkenazis’ had 112 average IQ. Hence I attribute it to their paranoia.

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    G. EirĂ­ksson Reply:

    http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/upfront/2016/05/mossad-head-israel-medical-aid-al-nusra-front-160531081744269.html

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    frank Reply:

    lol. So it’s not even paranoia. It’s just dumb feelz. Nuclear monkey civilization was a mistake.

    G. EirĂ­ksson Reply:

    naw c´mon, it ain´t exciting enough without enough nukes boyo

    anonymous Reply:

    Wrong on all counts. You seem to be incorrigibly confused.

    1. Iraq is a net cost for Iran, not its puppet.
    2. The purpose is to weaken potential challengers to Israeli hegemony in the Near East, not to attack Iran by doing so. Israel is also working hard at weakening Iran by direct and indirect means (by using the US’s influence, or by weakening their allies in the region, like Syria or Iraq)
    3. Push and pull strategy.
    4. They’re not creating jihadis. They’re bringing them out into the open, to then bash them into the ground or use them to other purposes. “Terrorism” is a trivial problem.
    5. Opening borders to people fleeing war is easier to sell to the europeans. Regardless, the goal is keeping those refugees away from Israel, both physically and financially.
    6. Unadulterated nonsense.
    7. Pure fiction. Dogs are dogs. Dumb arabs will always be dumb arabs. Where’s the negro party in the US? Right — there isn’t any. Negroes are just useful idiots, yanked one way or another depending on what their master needs them to do.

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  • Worm Says:

    Breaking news: Is the US supporting moderate, human liver eating takfiri terrorists in Syria?……find out next on Morning Joe, with co-hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski !!

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  • SVErshov Says:

    while US imperialistic war is is not going very well, there is a strong possibility of civil war bursting out at home.

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  • Worm Says:

    Another theory:

    1) the Yinon Plan, Clean Break and PNAC are all strategies created and adopted by Zionists that call for the partition/balkanization of the Middle East for the benefit of the state of Israel. An outcome that seemingly has been pursued near CONTINUOUSLY and actively since the invasion of Iraq in 03 and which continues to this day.

    2) the US Establishment has been entirely/blatantly in the thrall of the Israel and its lobbies for years meaning both parties – the whole gamut: neoconservative to neoliberals – have consistently placed the interests of Israel above that of the United States.

    3) The US media is controlled by AIPAC, and is expected to defend the state of Israel on almost every issue, or face the consequences, and this is why no one in the media – nearly to a person – who reports on ANYTHING relating to what we’re witnessing sees fit to print a fucking word about any of the above.

    Sounds about right.

    Oh wait, that can’t be right because if it was true I would have heard this on CNN or the NY Times.

    The Yinon Plan, Clean Break and PNAC have got to be some crazy conspiracy theories.

    Right up there with the wackjobs who believe 9/11 was an inside job, just because a growing number of architects, engineers, and scientists (such as the European Journal of Physics, Sept 2016) suggest that evidence points overwhelmingly to the conclusion that all three buildings were destroyed by controlled demolition.

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    G. EirĂ­ksson Reply:

    the ME is a ~100 yo plan a.l.

    it ain´t just da joo. dis a royal thang.

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  • G. EirĂ­ksson Says:

    can we not talk about presidents like they´re not stooges.

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  • G. EirĂ­ksson Says:

    redpill. i guess it´s a blackpill for some of ya.

    these nations ruined were nepotocracies. their ruin, and the assimilation of their peoples into the system, is a victory for production.

    humanity never evolves like in a war-machine. war is the edge of production.

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    G. EirĂ­ksson Reply:

    phinex114 years ago
    relying on the money fever dream the occident fulfills the will of all intemperate men to conquer day and night, consciousness and dream, and so by necessity, day and night are inverted. while awake we live out dream worlds of collective material fetishism. and as we sleep we send wizards to do our conscious work pointing wands at our nightmares and creating safe space for the orgy.ďťż

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEuYc05b-TM

    saturnalia

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  • Worm Says:

    US is defending ISIS

    from Russia Today (Sept 17, 2016)

    Moscow has called an urgent UN Security Council meeting after US-led coalition hit Syrian forces, killing 62 soldiers and wounding 100 more. The Russian FM spokeswoman blasted Washington over the indiscriminate airstrike that she said serves the interests of ISIS terrorists.

    “If previously we had suspicions that Al-Nusra Front is protected this way, now, after today’s airstrikes on the Syrian army we come to a really terrifying conclusion for the entire world: The White House is defending IS [Islamic State, formerly ISIS/ISIL],“ Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova told Rossiya 24.

    “We demand a full and detailed explanation from Washington. That explanation must be given at the UN Security Council,” Zakharova added.

    The Foreign Ministry has demanded full and detailed explanation from Washington over the incident in Deir ez-Zor, in which 62 Syrian troops were killed and over 100 injured.

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  • Worm Says:

    Funny how ALL the Neocon architects of the Iraq War have endorsed Hillary

    But The Donald kissed some woman thirty years ago so… I guess that has something to do with it?

    Or … maybe… ?

    https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2016/10/15/neocon-architects-of-illegal-war-in-iraq-stand-with-hillary-clinton/

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  • Dark Reformation Says:

    @ Ryan

    Who said anything about wasting them all; only those squares who won’t fit into round holes.

    @Frank

    1: Afghanistan (Check); 2: Syria (check); 3: Yemen (check); 4: bleed Hezbollah (check).

    2: Think long term. The left move slow, but they move. The left never fights outright except against the white right,

    3: Give em rope and let them swing. It pisses off the Saudis and gets them all riled. As for Iran in the Iraq, it has only set off a new round of Sunni/Shia violence. (See point six.)

    4: see above.

    5: Cover story. Emotional manipulation, creating a narrative. “We have a moral duty to ……”

    6: Lenin’s “the worse it gets the better it will be”. The left thrive on violence and chaos.

    7: Possible, but unlikely, at least not for a good few decades. What is likely is an ever greater crack down and any all those who oppose the state. But yes, you are right. Jews, at the moment, are leaving France for Israel.

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    frank Reply:

    (1, 2 & 3) My point is not that Israel doesn’t want to encircle Iran. It’s that they don’t have good enough grip on the US war machine to achieve their goal. Otherwise they would go for Iran 10 years ago, because US is about to leave Iraq, Afghanistan. USG can’t keep burning money and soldiers ad infinitum. Israel has missed the window of opportunity, and badly botched control of Iraq and Afghanistan. All this supports Michael’s thesis that Cathedral doesn’t have a plan. It part-time works for Israeli interests and part-time for Obama’s vanity projects.

    (5) That’s the thing. They didn’t need a cover story until Trump. France, Germany, UK, they were already on track to become islamicized before so-called war refugees started invading. Things only accelerated, and imho, there’s no coordinated conspiracy behind it. Leftists viscerally understand that 3rd worlders are more votes for them, so they import them. Simple incentives.

    (6) Israel foreign policy is not leftist. They’re just insane, or paranoid, or consumed by a stereotypical jewish pettiness. As for Cathedral, it doesn’t have the capacity to strategize.

    (7) The point is that Israel is creating an incredibly hostile future for itself. Everybody is acting like lunatics except for Russia and China.

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    G. EirĂ­ksson Reply:

    >They’re just insane

    really?

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    frank Reply:

    Did you not see the disjunctives?

    G. EirĂ­ksson Reply:

    This does not answer the question.

    Anyway, if Israel´s Foreign Policy were just insane, the State would not exist.

    frank Reply:

    Come on man, you’re beating straw men.

    anonymous Reply:

    You’re a dumb ass. The goal isn’t to encircle Iran. The goal is to destabilise the region, and in doing so weaken the rise of any potential rival to Israel’s hegemony. It’s the same shit Perfidious Albion did in Europe for centuries.

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  • Dark Reformation Says:

    @Chris B

    More Cathedral propaganda. This is a Cardinal Chomsky talking point.

    Read:

    Mawdudi

    2: Milestones by Sayid Qutub.

    3: The Koran (the word of God, passed, telephone style, to Gabriel then Muhammad then to his men.)

    4: The Legacy Of Jihad. Edited by Andrew G Bostrom. (Islam in theory and practice.)

    We need to make a distinction here between ultimate and proximate causation and between an initiating cause and a sustaining one.

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  • Worm Says:

    “Slothrop perceives that he is losing his mind. If there is something comforting — religious, if you want — about paranoia, there is still also anti-paranoia, where nothing is connected to anything, a condition not many of us can bear for long.

    Well right now Slothrop feels himself sliding onto the anti-paranoid part of his cycle, feels the whole city around him going back roofless, vulnerable, uncentered as he is…

    Either They have put him here for a reason, or he’s just here. He isn’t sure that he wouldn’t, actually, rather have that reason…”

    (Pynchon, Gravity’s Rainbow, pg 434)

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  • Worm Says:

    The idea that all the Arab states should be broken down, by Israel, into small units, occurs again and again in Israeli strategic thinking.

    For example, Ze’ev Schiff, the military correspondent of Ha’aretz (and probably the most knowledgeable in Israel, on this topic) wrote about the “best” that can happen for Israeli interests in Iraq:

    “The dissolution of Iraq into a Shi’ite state, a Sunni state and the separation of the Kurdish part” (Ha’aretz 6/2/1982).

    Actually, this aspect of the plan is very old.

    “Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is guaranteed as a candidate for Israel’s targets. Its dissolution is even more important for us than that of Syria. Iraq is stronger than Syria. In the short run it is Iraqi power which constitutes the greatest threat to Israel.”

    (from “The Yinon Plan: A Strategy for Israel in the 1980s”)

    “We’re going to take out seven countries in 5 years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran” –

    General Wesley Clark (Supreme Allied Commander of Nato during the 1999 War on Yugoslavia)

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