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		<title>By: peppermint</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/umlaut/#comment-37743</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2014 16:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s great, the bad guys bad ideas are malice incarnate; they say the same thing about us because projection.

Can you explain why othewise intelligent men accepted these ideas?

Why is it that the doctrine that all men are created equal became popular about the same time as firearms?  Perhaps NRx is a belated response to WMDs and drone warfare.

Regardless, we will have democracy with us until the person who calls for a vote to decide a power struggle is looked at like he is retarded.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s great, the bad guys bad ideas are malice incarnate; they say the same thing about us because projection.</p>
<p>Can you explain why othewise intelligent men accepted these ideas?</p>
<p>Why is it that the doctrine that all men are created equal became popular about the same time as firearms?  Perhaps NRx is a belated response to WMDs and drone warfare.</p>
<p>Regardless, we will have democracy with us until the person who calls for a vote to decide a power struggle is looked at like he is retarded.</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/umlaut/#comment-34764</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Hurlock,

What if the actual History of America and hence the West the last 50 years is:  Elites turned from benevolent stewardship to a policy of Comprehensive Ruin, that is their actual policies are HARM and PROFIT from Harm proceeding from a motive of MALICE?  

Because that is the History of the last 50 years. Either HBD or Hate-Democracy can explain Detroit, it cannot explain the Rust Belt - that&#039;s 11 states.  Mostly White. 

Such people could be placed under any system and the results identical. Because you see the results &lt;i&gt; have been identical under every single political and social system &lt;/i&gt; including the precious monarchies of Europe.  &lt;b&gt; All the systems that encountered Malice incarnate and their Viral Tools called Ideas succumbed&lt;/b&gt;.   The mistake was identical and is duplicated here, they engaged them in debate.   

Whether you believe it was the Puritans or Protestants gone mad, or the blood vengeance of the Nihilists, the results were the same.  The people and nations that escaped can be named - Spain via Franco, Chile via Pinochet, Finland via Mannerheim and Finnish Light Infantry, and so on.  None of them debated, they crushed. 

You might as well argue the injustice of it with a plague Buboe that has appeared under your armpit.  It doesn&#039;t hear you or care about Justice, or your feelings, and your marvelous brains are merely more food. 

It&#039;s usually not phrased as debating the Buboe, it&#039;s usually the parable of the Turtle giving the snake the last ride over the River.  &quot;Why did you sting me, now we both die?&quot;

&quot;You knew I was a snake when you picked me up.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hurlock,</p>
<p>What if the actual History of America and hence the West the last 50 years is:  Elites turned from benevolent stewardship to a policy of Comprehensive Ruin, that is their actual policies are HARM and PROFIT from Harm proceeding from a motive of MALICE?  </p>
<p>Because that is the History of the last 50 years. Either HBD or Hate-Democracy can explain Detroit, it cannot explain the Rust Belt &#8211; that&#8217;s 11 states.  Mostly White. </p>
<p>Such people could be placed under any system and the results identical. Because you see the results <i> have been identical under every single political and social system </i> including the precious monarchies of Europe.  <b> All the systems that encountered Malice incarnate and their Viral Tools called Ideas succumbed</b>.   The mistake was identical and is duplicated here, they engaged them in debate.   </p>
<p>Whether you believe it was the Puritans or Protestants gone mad, or the blood vengeance of the Nihilists, the results were the same.  The people and nations that escaped can be named &#8211; Spain via Franco, Chile via Pinochet, Finland via Mannerheim and Finnish Light Infantry, and so on.  None of them debated, they crushed. </p>
<p>You might as well argue the injustice of it with a plague Buboe that has appeared under your armpit.  It doesn&#8217;t hear you or care about Justice, or your feelings, and your marvelous brains are merely more food. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s usually not phrased as debating the Buboe, it&#8217;s usually the parable of the Turtle giving the snake the last ride over the River.  &#8220;Why did you sting me, now we both die?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You knew I was a snake when you picked me up.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/umlaut/#comment-34724</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2014 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fair enough!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C.</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/umlaut/#comment-34700</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Stirner

&quot;NR talks a lot about exit, but need to talk more about exile. It is proven strategy to protect and preserve alien ideologies from the affronts of modernity.&quot;

It&#039;s a proven strategy for certain kinds of people. (The analysis by &lt;a href=&quot;http://hbdchick.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HBDChick&lt;/a&gt; comes in handy here.) For more kin-oriented peoples, yes, exile, the loss of a &quot;deep and dense social network&quot; is a dire threat (one that is to some people worse than death, as the example of Socrates illustrates), which can help preserve the group and its nature. However, for outbred, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vdare.com/posts/weirdwestern-educated-industrialized-rich-and-democratic-societies-think-differently&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WEIRD&lt;/a&gt; rootless moderns, many don&#039;t have a &quot;deep and dense social network&quot;, and may be (genetically and psychologically) to individualistic to ever have one. To them, being cast out from kith and kin to dwell amongst strangers and their barbarous folkways is not a dire fate, but &quot;exit&quot;, a thing not to be feared, but even, under the right conditions, to be sought, as our host here illustrates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Stirner</p>
<p>&#8220;NR talks a lot about exit, but need to talk more about exile. It is proven strategy to protect and preserve alien ideologies from the affronts of modernity.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a proven strategy for certain kinds of people. (The analysis by <a href="http://hbdchick.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">HBDChick</a> comes in handy here.) For more kin-oriented peoples, yes, exile, the loss of a &#8220;deep and dense social network&#8221; is a dire threat (one that is to some people worse than death, as the example of Socrates illustrates), which can help preserve the group and its nature. However, for outbred, <a href="http://www.vdare.com/posts/weirdwestern-educated-industrialized-rich-and-democratic-societies-think-differently" rel="nofollow">WEIRD</a> rootless moderns, many don&#8217;t have a &#8220;deep and dense social network&#8221;, and may be (genetically and psychologically) to individualistic to ever have one. To them, being cast out from kith and kin to dwell amongst strangers and their barbarous folkways is not a dire fate, but &#8220;exit&#8221;, a thing not to be feared, but even, under the right conditions, to be sought, as our host here illustrates.</p>
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		<title>By: Alrenous</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/umlaut/#comment-34674</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Academic/Course_Pages/legal_systems_very_different_12/Book_Draft/Systems/AmishChapter.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;not&lt;/a&gt; that &lt;a href=&quot;http://kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2009/02/amish_hackers_a.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;funny&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, <a href="http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Academic/Course_Pages/legal_systems_very_different_12/Book_Draft/Systems/AmishChapter.html" rel="nofollow">not</a> that <a href="http://kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2009/02/amish_hackers_a.php" rel="nofollow">funny</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/umlaut/#comment-34637</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[admin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 04:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(I should have read down to here before making my last comment. You make the same point far more elegantly than I do.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I should have read down to here before making my last comment. You make the same point far more elegantly than I do.)</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/umlaut/#comment-34636</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[admin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 04:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HBD is certainly the most important source of conceptual leverage relative to libertarianism, which renders itself ineffective -- and even toxic -- through its axiomatic (i.e. unexamined) universalism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HBD is certainly the most important source of conceptual leverage relative to libertarianism, which renders itself ineffective &#8212; and even toxic &#8212; through its axiomatic (i.e. unexamined) universalism.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/umlaut/#comment-34635</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 04:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Libertarians want to force the state to indefinitely obey rules of their choosing, whereas Nrxs try to engineer a state with good incentives.&quot; -- This is a very useful formulation, but the distinction becomes increasingly complicated upon close examination. Serious libertarians (by which I mean descriptive An-Cap types) strongly emphasize the role of realistic incentive structures in matters of governance. Their problem tends to be that they still thing a system of internal regulation can be realized, without reference to a selective and controlling external environment (Patchwork).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Libertarians want to force the state to indefinitely obey rules of their choosing, whereas Nrxs try to engineer a state with good incentives.&#8221; &#8212; This is a very useful formulation, but the distinction becomes increasingly complicated upon close examination. Serious libertarians (by which I mean descriptive An-Cap types) strongly emphasize the role of realistic incentive structures in matters of governance. Their problem tends to be that they still thing a system of internal regulation can be realized, without reference to a selective and controlling external environment (Patchwork).</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/umlaut/#comment-34634</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[admin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 03:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes. It&#039;s ironic that the Left is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thenation.com/article/174219/nietzsches-marginal-children-friedrich-hayek?page=full&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;accusing&lt;/a&gt; the hardcore Old Whig libertarians of fascism, while Slavo-Monarchist NRx accuses them of anarchism. They have to have been doing something right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. It&#8217;s ironic that the Left is <a href="http://www.thenation.com/article/174219/nietzsches-marginal-children-friedrich-hayek?page=full" rel="nofollow">accusing</a> the hardcore Old Whig libertarians of fascism, while Slavo-Monarchist NRx accuses them of anarchism. They have to have been doing something right.</p>
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		<title>By: Lesser Bull</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/umlaut/#comment-34632</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lesser Bull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 02:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, there is another type, and its the type that all governments everywhere have used, except when they didn&#039;t bother with the pretense of a fine moral calculus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, there is another type, and its the type that all governments everywhere have used, except when they didn&#8217;t bother with the pretense of a fine moral calculus.</p>
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