Sweden before 1945:

http://conswede.blogspot.com/2008/07/social-paradigms-shift-eg-our-view-on.html

Who would have imagined in 1933, that twelve years later Western Europe would undergo an America-led cultural revolution which would lead to the common belief that there are no differences between races?

Translation of two of the quotes:

Knut Bäck in Göteborgs-Posten, November 1933:
“This world is strange… No protests are raised against how the jungle is let loose into the society. Armstrong and his band are allowed to freely wreak destruction.”

Sten Broman in Sydsvenskan, November 1933:
“Dare I say that he at times had something monkey-like about him and sometimes reminded of, according to our perceptions, a mentally disturbed person, when he pouted with his mouth or gaped it to its widest open and roared like a hoarse animal from a primeval forest.”

The third quote compares the concert with a natural disaster, and Armstrong’s trumpet with a hell machine. The only good thing coming out of it, he says, is that it solves to old dispute of whether monkeys have a language.

This is what Europe looked like, up until 1945. And since some people will live under the misconception that this was a phenomenon of the ’30s, I here provide a quote from the Swedish Encyclopedia, Nordisk Familjebok, the 1876-1899 edition (here and here).

“Psychologically the negro can be said be on the level of a child, with vivid fantasy, lack of endurance, … can be said to lack morality rather than being immoral … etc.”

The well-known Swedish eugenics program:

http://www.economist.com/node/155244

like any good monkey, i take useful and inevitable shortcuts for fixing on concepts, convictions, and decisions. one of those is to be more prone to broadly approve (depending on how solipsistic i am) of things associated with thedes i approve of (or identify with), and concordantly, distrust and scrutinize products or associations of nexuses i dont approve of (or dont identify with). naturally, this process is even easier when neanderthalic civilization is one of the things you identify with.

of course im sure we all roll eyes whenever the designated cathedralite of the day takes yet more snipes at iq or related quantifications of mental capacity, but the fact obtains; it has high correlation with g (pattern recognition and computational aptitude is naturally multi-phasic and useful in many areas), but is not itself g.

the far more pertinent test, is the test of history. and here, the mongoloids (to include also the khazars) are barely above the rest of the world compared to western europe. it was european innovations that uplifted them to modernity, a dynamic that displays itself to this day. even in the midst of global war, the japanese remained effectively locked in time, while WEs on both sides innovated strategically, tactically, and technologically.

the memes of fatalism and destiny endemic to asians societies aptly illustrate the difference in capacities for more transcendent reasoning inherent to these demographics. after all, how can one fight fate if the future seems alien and uncertain? or if even one did know, one wouldent know how to act differently anyways? (in an ironic turn, that vexing propensity for whites, beyond all other races, to be so self-destructive in the name of a universalizing ideal is itself an illustration also of these differences).

the natural noble is prescient, can comprehend values and ideals that inform action in increasingly broad contexts, is not as reliant on validation to form such values and ideals, essentially, can self direct. as technology advances, the iq monkey will become increasingly superfluous as the muscle monkey before him has. the solipsistic infomorph hordes will rely, as always, on more transcendent leaders to give them a purpose in life, to provide tradition. and it is those self-same minds that have also the best capacity for disclosing the vital uplift for their superior children.

Well, misleading how?

Systems matter, they can, to a huge degree stifle the output of a people. See Lysenkoism or Blank Slatism. But in the long term, systems are temporary and they can be expected to change eventually. In the past 150 years or so, we’ve seen that in the right circumstances and with the right genes, a people can, to a significant degree, recover from communism, extreme technological backwardness or even a combination of the two.

It is practical for a population to eventually recover from a bad system. Is it practical for a population to recover from bad genes? It’s possible, but it looks rather difficult and impractical. Recovery through natural methods will be an extremely slow process and not guaranteed to ever happen. Recovery through artificial methods will be an extremely difficult feat of social engineering, with all the risk of error that entails.

So the most valuable thing that humanity possesses is our accumulation of good genes. It’s not clear that we can ever get those back if they are lost. This goes beyond IQ, as all human behavioral traits are heritable, including whatever mystery trait it is that enables a few high IQ people to actual use that IQ for something beneficial, rather than just becoming another clever silly.

If the Cathedral were merely bent on imposing hardline totalitarian Communism, that would be bad, but at least we could expect to recover from it someday. Unfortunately, the Cathedral is bent on imposing genetic Communism and there is no reason to think that we can recover from that in anything approaching a reasonable time frame.

“humanity’s real wealth isn’t economic, it is genetic.”

Well that’s better than saying education is the key to everything [for the educators] but misleading.

This is why DEC is useful primarily as a weapon.

That’s a lament….

Well, it wouldn’t be just any Sweden / East Germany, it would be a Sweden / East Germany with a basic understanding of dysgenics and a strong aversion to immigration from the third world (which, in practice, tends to be dysgenic.)

Maybe they’d be crippled by their socialist economic system, as you seem to imply, but humanity’s real wealth isn’t economic, it is genetic. They’d preserve some excellent science genes that are currently under threat. The bread lines might be a bonus; they’d make it easier for a techno-commercialist state to tempt valuable people into defecting.

Brazil Norte is a more likely alternative, as current trends continue. You’ll also be able to poach defectors from there as well, but over time there will be fewer and fewer people worth poaching, as fast-motion dysgenics through hybridization kicks in.

PISA scores are regarded as a decent proxy for G.

http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/25-countries-most-brainpower-211349685.html

“Germany
On average, 2.60% scored at elite levels
2,129,140 brilliant people estimated

The United States
On average, 1.7% scored at elite levels
5,336,300 brilliant people estimated

#20 Brazil
On average, 0.10% scored at elite levels
198,700 brilliant people estimated”

If the diversity you are seeking is expansive enough to include ethno-states AND (selectively) multicultural commercial enclaves, then I see no reason for this divergence of vision to become hopelessly rancorous.

Indeed and agreed.

It’s unlikely that WNs will model their social ideals on Singapore and Hong Kong, but I expect many Neoreactionaries to continue doing so. You are probably better able than me to predict how much friction will result from this.

I’m banking on the work of your colleagues and yourself serving to critique and corrode the prevailing Progressive mythos, with your own proposed alternative failing to develop past a certain point, either in theory or practice. Time will tell, I suppose. But according to my model, you’re valuable allies even if you don’t necessarily think of yourselves as such.

It’s unlikely that WNs will model their social ideals on Singapore and Hong Kong, but I expect many Neoreactionaries to continue doing so. You are probably better able than me to predict how much friction will result from this.

In all honesty, I think you would have to admit that your comments thread captures the tenor of the New Right stance, which values loyalty above excellence (when the two collide),

A careful analysis of the game theory confirms that selecting loyalty above excellence (iff they collide) is a prerequisite for excellence. In sports, a team of superior players who play to win as individuals will generally be defeated by a team of inferior players who play to win as a team. Among human beings, playing the tribal team sport of male territorial aggression for resource acquisition, teamwork is imperative.

Ron Unz’s work confirms that Jewish representation in the best sinecures far outstrips their innate hbd advantages, and the parsimonious explanation for this is that the Jews tend to think and work as a coherent team. Meanwhile, Asian Americans tend to play the meritocratic game as individuals, and find themselves socially and politically invisible despite enjoying the hbd advantage.

Theoretically speaking, the loyalty doesn’t necessarily need to be biological, unless you’re attempting to add the intergenerational dimension. Then it necessarily becomes racial/ethnic/tribal.

derides HBD for its high-estimation of Jewish / East Asian cognitive characteristics,

I’m not seeing this all that frequently, especially among the more influential. For the most part, we take for granted that Ashkenazi Jews and East Asians are as intelligent as the research indicates. Our beef is with those who favor the gifted alien over one’s own kinsmen (white or otherwise).

and would rather see a mediocre world with whites secure than a world of rapid advance (intelligence optimization) in which the historical role of European-descended peoples has been comparatively marginalized. Do you think this portrait is unfair?

It’s technically correct, but narrowly and deceptively framed. We would like to eugenically optimize our own tribes (humanely, and traditionally) for intelligence in addition to an array of other human traits which make for a better world.

While I value intelligence, there’s creativity, loyalty, nobility, stewardship, and aesthetic beauty to be considered, as well. European cultures and communities are superior to Jewish and Asian cultures to me. I would rather be among my extended family with our artistic and literary traditions than among gifted aliens with their alien artistic and literary traditions.

Besides, our different tribes have different types of intelligence, and the entire world would be served by helping preserve that diversity. The Jewish knack for mastering overwhelming complexity, the Asian penchant for precision engineering, and the European gift for paradigm-shattering innovation can all benefit mankind as a whole. Separately.

The fact that WN intellectuals have tens of thousands of men and women in trailer parks who endorse a necessarily more concrete framing of our dogma is a strength. What’s the point of being in the right tail if you can’t wag the dog?