Who needs an argument?

The kind of things 19th century English geniuses believed will set your teeth chattering:

Galton feared that the English race was degenerating, declining in both mental and physical ability. (It remains a common fear; the French thought they were degenerating, too.) Like others of his day, Galton used the term ‘race’ loosely. He referred alternately to the English race, the white race, the human race. But overall, English eugenics was less about race than class. To Galton’s mind, the filthy working poor were breeding like rabbits while the gentry were chastely dwindling. He became convinced that unless something were done, the flower of English manhood – not excluding specimens such as his cousin and, ahem, himself – would soon vanish, swamped by a massive tide of Oliver Twists and Tiny Tims.

Thank goodness that preposterous conviction has been rigorously debunked.

November 18, 2015admin 21 Comments »
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  • Who needs an argument? | Neoreactive Says:

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  • SVErshov Says:

    and all together, for few decades in each century, they were waiting for collapse

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  • Jefferson Says:

    Is there any group other than orthodox Jews whose tfr does not inversely correlate with IQ? The Amish maybe?

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    Aeroguy Reply:

    Probably Mormons, but they’re slowly catching up with pozzed politics.

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    Grotesque Body Reply:

    North Indian Brahmins?

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    SVErshov Reply:

    most greedy people on earth, or at least those whom I know in person.

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    Nick B. Steves Reply:

    It seems it is not so much the IQ as it is the years of education:

    http://anepigone.blogspot.ca/2012/05/education-iq-and-fertility.html

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    Jefferson Reply:

    If you read the comments to that post, you’ll see that it’s not that simple (historically, IQ is inversely correlated to TFR).

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    Posted on November 18th, 2015 at 4:34 pm Reply | Quote
  • TexasCapitalist Says:

    It’s a good thing Francis Galton set out to change this by encouraging his intelligent countrymen to breed and building institutions that would correct this wrong, in addition to fathering many children himself.

    You’re telling me that he actually spent his time devising intelligence tests so he and his sycophantic social circle could congratulate themselves,and didn’t even father one child? That he designed weather maps and advocating for Africa to be given to the Chinese(ok that ones good),

    Somehow it’s not surprising that high class atheists Anglos and other NW Europeans keep on diminishing when the likes of Galton, Lovecraft, admin etc. don’t even bother to have children, and rarely even care enough to point out the fact that they don’t have children.

    You keep on saying how Gnon doesn’t care about anybody’s feelings, but actually God doesn’t particularly care about your conception of Gnon, Pure Intelligence, Horror-ism, whatever you want to call it. Theory is great but it’s practically useless when the people who can appreciate it the most don’t exist.

    The fact that the whole concept Nature and Nature’s God has already taken a huge beating largely because of demographics should be enough to tell you this. If you convince enough of Christians about the evil lies of the Church won’t be long now until Gnon gets cannibalized by Allah.

    Outlook for population of atheists/skeptics/rationalists is very bad, going way down, Muslims going way up, Christians going up but have the ability to grow faster than Muslims if they grow some balls and fight/reproduce, a power they have that atheists do not.

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    admin Reply:

    “… rarely even care enough to point out the fact that they don’t have children.” — This isn’t a goddamn mommy blog. You’re also wrong on the facts.

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    s(R) Reply:

    Coming soon: admin’s new blog, “Xenomommies”. Stay tuned for exciting posts like “Toddler cuts (#1)”, “How to Talk to Your Child about Gnon”, and “What I baked for Curtis’s Potluck”.

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    Grotesque Body Reply:

    “Patchwork Quilts: Do It Yourself in 10 Easy Steps.”

    TexasCapitalist Reply:

    You have children? How many? If I’m right that you don’t have any children than what facts did I get wrong? Francis Galton may have had many alleged efforts and institutions to get smart Englishmen to breed but if he genuinely tried and didn’t just write like a pompous ass than he is one of the biggest failures in history.

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    admin Reply:

    Two kids. (That’s the last on the subject — public discussion of personal stuff is annoying.)

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  • Who needs an argument? | Reaction Times Says:

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  • Shlomo Maistre Says:

    Humanity’s peak was at its birth. Earlier men were better men, possessed of more incisive intuition and more acute percipience.

    The quality of mankind’s understanding (of the cosmos and of eternity and of truth) inherently deteriorates overtime. This deterioration – inevitable and unrecognized by the mass of men – occurs by virtue of the fall from grace that banished man from divine provenance.

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    Grotesque Body Reply:

    Very cool story indeed.

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  • Shlomo Maistre Says:

    Listen to what wise antiquity has to say about the first men. It will tell you that they were wonderful men, whom beings of a superior order favored with the most important messages. There is unanimity on this point: initiates, philosophers, poets, history, myth, Asia and Europe speak with one voice. Such complete agreement of reason, revelation, and all human traditions constitutes a proof that cannot reasonably be contradicted. Thus, not only did men start with knowledge, but with a knowledge different from and superior to our own, since it penetrated more deeply, which made it the more dangerous. This is why science at the beginning was mysterious and confined within the temples, where the flame finally burned out when once it had no purpose other than to burn….

    It is impossible to think of modern science without seeing it perpetually surrounded by all the apparatus of the mind and every kind of methodological aid…. So far as we can penetrate the mists of time to perceive the science of the earliest days, it always emerges free and independent, flying rather than walking, and presenting in its entire person something aerial and supernatural…. Yet, although it owed nothing to any man and knew no human support, it is no less the case that it possessed the rarest understanding. If you think of it, this is a convincing proof that ancient science had been freed from the travail imposed on our own and that nothing could be more mistaken than the calculations we make on the basis of modern experience….

    – Joseph de Maistre

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  • John Hannon Says:

    How about giving away free smack, crack, whatever for life to any low IQ ghetto-dweller who consents to be irreversibly sterilized?
    As final dysgenic solutions go, this would at least be relatively humane.

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    Grotesque Body Reply:

    Sterilizing them is out of the question; we need their kids to vote for us.

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    James James Reply:

    Project Prevention, a charity in the US and UK, gives money to drug users who agree to be sterilized.

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