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		<title>By: Mark Warburton</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My bad. I just tend to envisage the Mont Pelerin crew as one and the same. I knew of David (he talked at a Libertarian Alliance meeting I found out about via meetup.com - I didn&#039;t attend). Patri definitely sounds like a go-to regarding &#039;upgrades&#039; - didn&#039;t join the dots regarding Patri-Neocameralism (something else I should read some more about). Cheers for all the recommedations!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My bad. I just tend to envisage the Mont Pelerin crew as one and the same. I knew of David (he talked at a Libertarian Alliance meeting I found out about via meetup.com &#8211; I didn&#8217;t attend). Patri definitely sounds like a go-to regarding &#8216;upgrades&#8217; &#8211; didn&#8217;t join the dots regarding Patri-Neocameralism (something else I should read some more about). Cheers for all the recommedations!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/yum/#comment-744</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It would be worth bringing Galton back (cloning him in a frog egg, or something) just to see what he&#039;d make of the Friedman dynasty hereditary genius. Milton was still a &#039;neoliberal&#039; (in the best, Latin American gringo-bashing sense) and not identifiably Austrian, David pushed that out all the way to Anarcho-Capitalism, and Patri found a way to get even further out -- into &#039;dynamic geography&#039;, which is not easily distinguishable from Neocameralism seen from the other side (looking in from the Patchwork, with micro-states politically-disciplined by the requirements of market adaptation). Not only continuity, but escalation in the right direction. There has to be a book for someone in this astounding story: epic biography over three generations, combined with unique conceptual momentum. I&#039;m not sure that a Schwarzenegger intro. would really work though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be worth bringing Galton back (cloning him in a frog egg, or something) just to see what he&#8217;d make of the Friedman dynasty hereditary genius. Milton was still a &#8216;neoliberal&#8217; (in the best, Latin American gringo-bashing sense) and not identifiably Austrian, David pushed that out all the way to Anarcho-Capitalism, and Patri found a way to get even further out &#8212; into &#8216;dynamic geography&#8217;, which is not easily distinguishable from Neocameralism seen from the other side (looking in from the Patchwork, with micro-states politically-disciplined by the requirements of market adaptation). Not only continuity, but escalation in the right direction. There has to be a book for someone in this astounding story: epic biography over three generations, combined with unique conceptual momentum. I&#8217;m not sure that a Schwarzenegger intro. would really work though.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Warburton</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brilliant. Haha. The Friedmans! Have you seen Arnie&#039;s intros to the Friedmans&#039; documentaries? Power to Choose or some such? Hilarious - talk about injecting machismo into Austrian-Libertarian!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant. Haha. The Friedmans! Have you seen Arnie&#8217;s intros to the Friedmans&#8217; documentaries? Power to Choose or some such? Hilarious &#8211; talk about injecting machismo into Austrian-Libertarian!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/yum/#comment-739</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hoppe, North, and Schlichter on the blogroll are all way beyond the horizon of &#039;neoliberal&#039; ideas. Anybody Peter Thiel likes is sure to be interesting (e.g. Patri Friedman, who doesn&#039;t write a lot, but is touched by genius -- and some extraordinary genes).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoppe, North, and Schlichter on the blogroll are all way beyond the horizon of &#8216;neoliberal&#8217; ideas. Anybody Peter Thiel likes is sure to be interesting (e.g. Patri Friedman, who doesn&#8217;t write a lot, but is touched by genius &#8212; and some extraordinary genes).</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Warburton</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/yum/#comment-738</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any names in particular?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any names in particular?</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/yum/#comment-736</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Neoliberals are pikers. They wouldn&#039;t recognize &quot;techno-capital/hyper modernity&quot; if it was cabled directly into their brain-stems. For raw signal from the machine-id, you need to go trawling further out -- into the reacto-libertarian abyss.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neoliberals are pikers. They wouldn&#8217;t recognize &#8220;techno-capital/hyper modernity&#8221; if it was cabled directly into their brain-stems. For raw signal from the machine-id, you need to go trawling further out &#8212; into the reacto-libertarian abyss.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Warburton</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/yum/#comment-735</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Warburton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;@Mark Warburton&lt;/strong&gt;

Well, I think I&#039;ve got to an age where I tend not to be overtly partisan. This way I can look at the picture from further out. Emotions/psychological make up seem to dictate my interests/study enough. Why pile the flag-waving n&#039; black-or-white thinking and some?

As for not operating under another name, it&#039;s out of principle(not carlessness or naviety). If my results suffer for not responding pavlovian dog style to the leftist cabal, so be it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Mark Warburton</strong></p>
<p>Well, I think I&#8217;ve got to an age where I tend not to be overtly partisan. This way I can look at the picture from further out. Emotions/psychological make up seem to dictate my interests/study enough. Why pile the flag-waving n&#8217; black-or-white thinking and some?</p>
<p>As for not operating under another name, it&#8217;s out of principle(not carlessness or naviety). If my results suffer for not responding pavlovian dog style to the leftist cabal, so be it.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/yum/#comment-734</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It all sounds highly interesting -- maybe a little too interesting for your own good. Shouldn&#039;t you be decked out in digital camouflage?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It all sounds highly interesting &#8212; maybe a little too interesting for your own good. Shouldn&#8217;t you be decked out in digital camouflage?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Warburton</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/yum/#comment-733</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More to the point of your question. Here are some of the thoughts I&#039;ve had on techno-capital recently.

*How has the accelerated nature of techno-capital, with it condensing information and cultural artifacts into virtual space, impacted cultural memory? 

*The image played a part in the cultural theories of Debord and Baudrillard in the 20th century. To what extent does techno-capital/hyper modernity force academia to update these theories? How does a visual hegemony - through more sub-mediums than ever - influence techno-capital and vice versa?

*To what degree has the will-to-commodification bled into people&#039;s perceptions and values? If subjects are becoming increasingly hyper-consumer/materialist, how does this impact us as citizens, aesthetes, and members of social spaces.

*The shopping mall and the sports arena are two of the major social/communal spaces left, yet, they, like popular modern music, complement the logic of neoliberalism/techno-capital, how can &#039;culture&#039; recover from this?

*How is techno-capital affecting our cognitive/intellectual faculties? Are they being re-shaped, subdued, even denigrated?

*With the changing role of subjects as producers and workers, how does the ubiquity of techno-capital impact on our attitudes, valorisation and responses to work?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More to the point of your question. Here are some of the thoughts I&#8217;ve had on techno-capital recently.</p>
<p>*How has the accelerated nature of techno-capital, with it condensing information and cultural artifacts into virtual space, impacted cultural memory? </p>
<p>*The image played a part in the cultural theories of Debord and Baudrillard in the 20th century. To what extent does techno-capital/hyper modernity force academia to update these theories? How does a visual hegemony &#8211; through more sub-mediums than ever &#8211; influence techno-capital and vice versa?</p>
<p>*To what degree has the will-to-commodification bled into people&#8217;s perceptions and values? If subjects are becoming increasingly hyper-consumer/materialist, how does this impact us as citizens, aesthetes, and members of social spaces.</p>
<p>*The shopping mall and the sports arena are two of the major social/communal spaces left, yet, they, like popular modern music, complement the logic of neoliberalism/techno-capital, how can &#8216;culture&#8217; recover from this?</p>
<p>*How is techno-capital affecting our cognitive/intellectual faculties? Are they being re-shaped, subdued, even denigrated?</p>
<p>*With the changing role of subjects as producers and workers, how does the ubiquity of techno-capital impact on our attitudes, valorisation and responses to work?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Warburton</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/yum/#comment-731</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Warburton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I&#039;d like to think that my perspective combines two conflicting strands. One of the &#039;interested observer&#039;, teasing out the sociological ramifications of cutting edge city-states, with a romantic irrationalism that boarders on (selective) conservatvism. I.e. I share the fears Virilio, Heidegger et al voice/d concerning the acceleration of change. 

In terms of where I stand politically (economically), wihich is crux I guess. It&#039;s more complicated - and probably pending, really. Although your work got me into these topics, I wouldn&#039;t say I&#039;m a cheerleader of what Fisher called your &#039;cybernetic hand&#039; in his Capitalist Realism book. I looked at the spontaneous order lot - not entirely convinced the free-market actually circumvents meddling humans. I&#039;d be interested to know how different theory has been &#039;upgraded&#039; since Adam Smith&#039;s original thoughts.

On the other hand, I feel like a bit of a spy/assassin entering Goldsmiths. I was of the left for most of my 20s, but I&#039;m closer to Junger&#039;s &#039;Anarch&#039; - and increasingly so these days. Surrounded by all the neo-marxists/zizekians etc. will be interesting. I was particularly irked by the the discourses in the accelerationist event at Goldsmiths in 2010, which, ironically, got me interested in &#039;Fanged Noumena&#039;. Everyone was just hysterical, emotive. Especially Nina Powers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;d like to think that my perspective combines two conflicting strands. One of the &#8216;interested observer&#8217;, teasing out the sociological ramifications of cutting edge city-states, with a romantic irrationalism that boarders on (selective) conservatvism. I.e. I share the fears Virilio, Heidegger et al voice/d concerning the acceleration of change. </p>
<p>In terms of where I stand politically (economically), wihich is crux I guess. It&#8217;s more complicated &#8211; and probably pending, really. Although your work got me into these topics, I wouldn&#8217;t say I&#8217;m a cheerleader of what Fisher called your &#8216;cybernetic hand&#8217; in his Capitalist Realism book. I looked at the spontaneous order lot &#8211; not entirely convinced the free-market actually circumvents meddling humans. I&#8217;d be interested to know how different theory has been &#8216;upgraded&#8217; since Adam Smith&#8217;s original thoughts.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I feel like a bit of a spy/assassin entering Goldsmiths. I was of the left for most of my 20s, but I&#8217;m closer to Junger&#8217;s &#8216;Anarch&#8217; &#8211; and increasingly so these days. Surrounded by all the neo-marxists/zizekians etc. will be interesting. I was particularly irked by the the discourses in the accelerationist event at Goldsmiths in 2010, which, ironically, got me interested in &#8216;Fanged Noumena&#8217;. Everyone was just hysterical, emotive. Especially Nina Powers.</p>
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