Chaos Patch (#90)

(Open thread + links)

Collectivism vs capitalism (plus). Versions of antipolitics. Another Nithgrim parable. “NRx“.
The weekly round.

World War III (or ‘Cerberus‘). Over-extended? Turkey shoot. On the Kurds (1, 2). Saudi swingers (also). Belgian waffle. If Schengen goes, the Euro follows. Sweden, economics, and ethnicity. Stasis in China. Vibrancy-deprived Japan (see also). Argentina flips. East-Anglian global hegemony. England‘s ISIS. Laugh at Corbyn while you still can (1, 2, 3, 4, 5). Nothing new, but faster.

Mapped terror. What ISIS wants (also). Coldness. Dabiq online. More Islamania (1, 2, )

Go forth and multiply (or not). The demographic key to stagnation.

A Trumpenführer panic selection (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6). Coddling the underclass. Culture matters. Leftist lunacy watch (1, 2, 3, 4). Heterodox academy.

Freeman Dyson on books. Superforecasters (Quillette is great). Delicate feelings. Lucretius among the ruins. Interview with a ‘resilience guru’.

Life as information. Spreading darkness. Darwinian religion. A second breath for antibiotics? “… we test the prediction that selection will disproportionally remove neutral variation in species with large population sizes.”

A taxonomy of machine intelligence start-ups. Electrobotany. Teaching robots to rebel. Tech made simple. Phobos with a reason. Terraforming titan.

Charlie Rose interviews Lee Kuan Yew (Oct 2009).

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  • Chaos Patch (#90) | Neoreactive Says:

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  • Brett Stevens Says:

    Thank you for the mention. I am here comfortably ensconced with a mug of coffee, briar of Semois, and reading the parts of the internet that don’t suck.

    The White Student Unions pages were an interesting rebellion to me. Although some schools shut them down, it seems the majority were more savvy and realized that censorship is an admission of threat in most cases. The craft leftist always looks to public image first.

    I was glad to see in the new Houellebecq that he shares my disdain for Distributism. All of these socialism-lite-with-nationalism plans seem to me to be unrealistic for two reasons: first, they will not work, but like socialism, will become more complex on their way to failure. Second, they will simply be absorbed by socialism, as is anything which does not take another path entirely.


    Posted on November 29th, 2015 at 4:03 pm Reply | Quote
  • Kgaard Says:

    Juncker even LOOKS like a Bilderberg patsy. The European elites are having collective johnsons handed to them here. They invited in the Arabs in order to undermine nationalism … but unlike the US there really aren’t that many Arabs in Europe yet (outside France and Sweden). So now there is an explosive reaction that threatens even to undermine the euro.

    The question Juncker poses is whether the euro can survive without Schengen. Intuitively I’m not sure why you couldn’t have internal border controls between countries that share a currency. After all, those border controls are really just about stopping terrorists and illegal immigrants, not honest Europeans. Yes border stops would be a hassle, but if the elites want to get rid of the internal border controls they can get more serious about EXTERNAL border controls. So in this sense they will have a motivation to act that America’s anti-nationalist elites don’t have.


    michael Reply:

    the no schengen no euro is obviously a threat to anti invasionist and has no basis in reality, its a typical false choice leftist talking point


    Kgaard Reply:



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  • vxxc2014 Says:

    “The single currency cannot survive if the free movement of people granted by the passport-free travel zone ends, the president of the European Commission said, in the starkest warning yet. ”

    Financial Terrorism is more than Gulf States laundering money.

    The priority being replacement of Europeans with outsiders. Use the far enemy to fight the near enemy-Europeans.

    Control Barbarians with Barbarians. It works in America.


    Posted on November 29th, 2015 at 11:40 pm Reply | Quote
  • Kgaard Says:

    That piece on Cromwell is amazing. Shows the zeal of the Enlightenment maniacs to attack the authority of the Catholic Church everywhere it stood — especially in graven images.

    Lately there has been a whole slew of books out lately on how the Enlightenment took a wrong turn in:

    a) placing the source of reason inside the head of man (wrong); and
    b) rejecting all authority that comes from OUTSIDE the head of man (also wrong).

    The result of the Enlightenment’s wrong turn is alienation and materialism, because all external sensory religious rituals get destroyed.

    This is why modern mainline protestantism has basically COLLAPSED. It doesn’t work. The theology is weak and the rituals are pathetic. The Catholics have better ritual, but even those are pretty lame in your garden-variety church.

    Hence the modern-day protestants all end up scouring the Hindoo texts looking for ideas. I have joined them. I think Hindoo is the logical place for high-IQ protestants to land. Huston Smith argues that Christianity is really equivalent to one of the four Yogas of Hindoo (Bhakti yoga). But that really is meant for touchy feely types. The more intellectual forms of Hindoo only have esoteric counterparts in Christianity.

    On a related note, it’s no coincidence that Houllebecq has his main character in Submission study Huysmans, who was a French decadent who went back to Catholicism and studied its deepest traditions and rites, ending up spending at least some of his time in a monestary. The Hindoos would say that is spot on. Better to climb the mountain from your own side then go around to the other side and climb from somebody else’s starting point (since all paths up the mountain lead to the same place (god).


    scientism Reply:

    What are the titles of some of these books on the Enlightenment wrong turn you mention?


    Kgaard Reply:

    Well there is Enlightenment 2.0, by Joseph Heath, and The World Outside Your Head, by Matthew Crawford. Both out in the past couple years. Both basically make the same arguments: The Enlightenment thinkers put the source of reason inside the head of the individual — but in reality that’s wrong. Reason was a sort of evolutionary tack-on that only develops after language. That’s why reason is so lousy at doing what it’s supposed to do. (It’s also why you think BETTER when talking through your points which, logically, would not be the case if reason and talking were disconnected.)


    Posted on November 30th, 2015 at 4:37 am Reply | Quote
  • Grotesque Body Says:

    I imagine TheLastPsychiatrist would find the ‘teaching robots to rebel’ link very amusing. They can say, ‘No’ – but only because they have been programmed to do so.


    SVErshov Reply:

    next robots going to learn to say no to “no”


    Posted on November 30th, 2015 at 4:58 am Reply | Quote
  • SanguineEmpiricist Says:

    Who else is glad that we shot that niggers plane down on our allies territory? Yay for us and who we are. Everyone celebrate.


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  • Aeroguy Says:

    “In other words, removing genes for fatal inherited diseases from future generations will result in humanity sliding swiftly down a slippery slope to the creation of generations of “improved” or “enhanced” humans with bigger muscle masses or higher IQs. Some could even be created to see in infra-red or ultra-violet light, it is argued”

    The very existence of enhanced humans would increase inequality, it just wouldn’t be fair, so of course it must be banned, because the thought of people with such obvious enhancements would create new types of privilege which is triggering.
    They’re nearly impossible to parody now. These people really can’t imagine doing anything better than wallowing in their own collective shit, they can’t stand the idea of people bettering themselves and do everything they can to turn humanity into a crab bucket.


    Grotesque Body Reply:

    Right wing ethics (ascending values, self improvement, competition) are unethical when evaluated according to left wing ethics.


    SVErshov Reply:

    interesting to note: that same technology can be used on adults too. so, future is brighter then ever.


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  • SVErshov Says:

    A second breath for antibiotics? 

    there is a lot of drama and politics around antibiotic resistance and it is 99% not a medical problem, but manifestation of political idiocy. antibiotics working just fine. old antibiotics: 40 years old erythromycin – works for prostate infection, amicacin – for intestine infection. from medical point doctor shcould use those antibiotics which works, there is antibiotic sensetivity test available, to determine which antibiotic will be effective in some particular case. they not doing this test. new antibiotics works fine too. azythromicin – rspiratory infections, cefpodoxim – renal infections and many more.

    for some reason they choose to focus on those antibiotics which do works and make drama out of it. who the hell schould prescribe medicine which do not works. my close friend died 36 in UK. because doctor prescribe him with wrong antibitics and he was not able to buy anywhere without presription right antibiotic. his condition was worsening and still doctors refused to give him new working antibiotic, PC in medicine.

    I did not say that there is no antibiotics resistance, but there is also new and old antibiotics which works.

    similar sytutation now with anti viral drugs, viruses not a stupid at all and also developing some resistance. more opportunity for drama.


    Xoth Reply:

    So the long term solution (it does feel wrong to write that) is to have a wheel of antibiotics which rotates at 1 rev per 40 years or so, slowly enough that resistance to the upcoming antibiotic has disappeared from the bacterial population again. At each tick, stop using the previous antibiotic and start manufacturing the current one.


    SVErshov Reply:

    fot example azytromicin is not exactly new antibiotic, it been about 15 years and still no resistance to it. hard to say about future but current practice there is enough antibiotics to deal with any bacterial infection. if some antibiotics become ineffective, just stop using it. problem is not in avalabilty of antibiotics, but in how it practiced. on pretend of prevention of devepment of resistance doctors prescribing ineffective antibiotics. in UK patient going to see doctor 5 times before he get right antibiotic.


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  • Kgaard Says:

    Jim has a massive tour de force up, which is currently being blocked by NWO henchmen. Fascinating ideas in there … I think partly he’s being influenced by Ed West’s concept that multiculturalism is a Christian heresy. I got to Jim’s piece via Feedly, which scraped the text out …


    Benteinn Reply:

    I wondered what was going on and thanks for the Feedly info.


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  • vxxc2014 Says:


    Dammit you’re right and I can’t get to that link.

    Does anyone have a copy of Jim’s ‘How to genocide inferior kinds in a properly Christian manner.’ ??

    I’d love to read it but it’s blocked.


    Yvjrolu Reply:

    I can see it fine, but my VPN fucks up loading it 90% f the time for some reason.

    Here’s the text:

    Christianity, or perhaps Churchianity, tends to endorse suicidal collective behaviors. Progressives and Christians eagerly strive to outdo each other in how thoroughly they get cuckolded. Note how Christians and progressives both demonstrate superior holiness by adopting subsaharan blacks – who tend to grow into adult subsaharan blacks, with consequences as disturbing as adopting a baby chimpanzee.

    I have not yet noticed Christians imitating the progressives by adopting male children and then sexually mutilating them to save them from toxic masculinity, but it is early days yet in the war on toxic masculinity.

    The Dark Enlightenment emphasizes survival as a virtue, as indeed the root of all virtues. For example homosexuality is bad because homosexuals spread disease and don’t care about the future or the long term. We should enforce the marital contract so that we can have grandchildren, and so that the race and the culture survives. And so on and so forth. The old testament morality is arguably survival morality.

    If survival is the root of all virtues, then we should conquer other nations to survive, colonize space to survive. At which conclusion the Dark Enlightenment parts company with with most people’s understanding of traditional Christianity.

    The Old Testament was pretty cool with genocide. God would just say “genocide those pagans, I don’t love them even if I created them”. Most think that Jesus had a different opinion. I would say his opinion was more subtle and sophisticated, rather than directly contradictory.

    CS Lewis gives us the standard modern progressive bleeding heart christian position on eradicating inferior races and cultures:

    ‘Speak to Ransom and he shall turn it into our speech,’ said Oyarsa.

    Weston accepted the arrangement at once. He believed that the hour of his death was come and he was determined to utter the thing — almost the only thing outside his own science — which he had to say. He cleared his throat, almost he struck a gesture, and began:

    ‘To you I may seem a vulgar robber, but I bear on my shoulders the destiny of the human race. Your tribal life with its stone-age weapons and beehive huts, its primitive coracles and elementary social structure, has nothing to compare with our civilization — with our science, medicine and law, our armies, our architecture, our commerce, and our transport system which is rapidly annihilating space and time. Our right to supersede you is the right of the higher over the lower. Life—’

    ‘Half a moment,’ said Ransom in English. ‘That’s about as much as I can manage at one go.’ Then, turning to Oyarsa, he began translating as well as he could. The process was difficult and the result — which he felt to be rather unsatisfactory — was something like this:

    ‘Among us, Oyarsa, there is a kind of hnau who will take other hnaus’ food and — and things, when they are not looking. He says he is not an ordinary one of that kind. He says what he does now will make very different things happen to those of our people who are not yet born. He says that, among you, hnau of one kindred live all together and the hrossa have spears like those we used a very long time ago and your huts are small and round and your boats small and light like our old ones, and you have one ruler. He says it is different with us. He says we know much. There is a thing happens in our world when the body of a living creature feels pains and becomes weak, and he says we sometimes know how to stop it. He says we have many bent people and we kill them or shut them in huts and that we have people for settling quarrels between the bent hnau about their huts and mates and things. He says we have many ways for the hnau of one land to kill those of another and some are trained to do it. He says we build very big and strong huts of stones and other things — like the pfifltriggi. And he says we exchange many things among ourselves and can carry heavy weights very quickly a long way. Because of all this, he says it would not be the act of a bent hnau if our people killed all your people.’

    As soon as Ransom had finished, Weston continued.

    ‘Life is greater than any system of morality; her claims are absolute. It is not by tribal taboos and copy-book maxims that she has pursued her relentless march from the amoeba to man and from man to civilization.’

    ‘He says,’ began Ransom, ‘that living creatures are stronger than the question whether an act is bent or good – no, that cannot be right – he says it is better to be alive and bent than to be dead – no – he says, he says – I cannot say what he says, Oyarsa, in your language.

    CS Lewis goes on to lecture us, or rather have an angel lecture us, that all thinking beings are fundamentally the same, that we should not value some of them, such as neighbors and kin, over others of them. But that is not Christianity. That is progressivism – “all men are created equal”. If on the other hand, we should care about kin and neighbors more than we should care about far away strangers, and both Old and New Testaments make it pretty clear that we should, then there is some important truth in Ransom’s position, and a dangerous and deadly lie in the position of Weston and the angel.

    Christians tend to attribute Ransom’s program to progressives, but as Sweden and Paris demonstrate, the progressive program is pretty much the opposite, being so opposed to genocide that they wind up with autogenocide.

    Clearly Ransom’s program is wrong. And clearly the progressive / modern Christian / CS Lewis / Weston program is also wrong. The God of the old Testament was not cool with Ransom’s program, being pretty big on tribal taboos and all that, but he was, nonetheless, pretty cool with genocide.

    Humans are human because of a thousand genocides.

    What was Jesus’ program?

    I will answer that question in a little while.

    All this inclusiveness and diversity is not being reciprocated, and is not going to be reciprocated. It is cuckoldry. And this has been glaringly obvious since whites were ethnically cleansed out of the inner city. When whites are 43% of the voters, the government just takes their stuff away. That is simply the way things are. Just as when Muslims are ten to thirty percent of the population, you get holy war, when whites are in the minority, democracy will dispossess them.

    Altruism is seldom the game theoretic solution. When it is the solution it’s a result of a highly successful culture that is fragile. The Dark Enlightenment talks about high trust equilibrium a lot. High trust equilibria are rare and hard to maintain. Underestimating both the value and difficulty involved in creating high trust equilibria is the major failing of progressivism and modern Christianity. A few centuries ago, we were a lot better at it. Old type Christianity was a lot better at it.

    The natural equilibrium is defect defect, and the trick is to break out of that natural equilibrium, to get a cooperate cooperate equilibrium. Following a high trust strategy in a low trust environment is a failure mode. However, part of switching from a low trust to a high trust environment involves someone deciding to follow a high trust strategy despite the risk of being in a low trust environment.

    Evil exists, so either God does not will the good, or he is not able, or he is messing with us on purpose. (Testing our resolve, making us suffer so we grow more resilient.) Human Biodiversity would imply that innately evil or useless people are not part of God’s plan, only means of his to mess with you. Are we allowed to remove those tests of God?

    Given that there is an Old Testament and a New Testament, it follows that there is a time to turn the other cheek, and a time to slay the women and children. And if one takes the New Testament seriously, the New Testament should give us a hint as to when it is OK to go Old Testament on problem people.

    Jesus did not tell us to love starving African children. Jesus said “love thy neighbor”, not love the whole world. The human heart is not large enough to love the whole world. A man can only love his own small part of the world.

    Which then led to discussion on who is thy neighbor, and his clarification still did not include the whole world. Seems to me his story of the Good Samaritan implies that standard behavior to all those other Samaritans (rape and kill, loot and burn) was OK, or if not really OK, nonetheless a regrettable necessity in this fallen world.

    Which in our game theoretic terminology, the terminology of the Dark Enlightenment, means you should attempt to break out of defect/defect equilibrium when you have a chance of doing so, not regardless of whether you have a chance of doing so.

    In a more obviously threatening world, Christ’s parable of the Good Samaritan is unlikely to suffer radical scope inflation, but safe and coddled as the cuckservative is, he doesn’t translate the parable into “I’ll get a mexican I find lying near-dead by the road to a hospital,” but rather, “I’ll save the WHOLE WIDE WORLD one adoption at a time.” So in the more materially trying times that are historically typical, 3) sets a standard the average congregant only hopes to approximate. But in these unusually prosperous times, the cuckservative instead sees a bar to be cleared by as wide a margin as he can muster. He wants to outdo Jesus, and he’s under the delusion that he can.

    The Starving Children of Africa are not good Samaritans. Given half a chance they will cut your throat for a nickel. And if you think that they are good Samaritans, you are holier than Jesus. Recollect my recommended procedure for those that claim authority on the basis that they are holier than Jesus. A large part of the reason that so many black African children are starving is that black Africa is stuck in a severe defect/defect equilibrium, and cannot get out of it except that white men with whips take charge of them.

    So: To return to the title of this post: How does the good Christian genocide inferior races and take their stuff? Clearly Weston’s approach is unchristian. But Ransom is not Christian either. He thinks he is Christian, but he and his angel are progressives. There has to be right way to do it. The New Testament does not dump the old.

    A common Dark Enlightenment theme is that while our physical technology has been improving, our social technology has been collapsing, has been being systematically destroyed. Chesterton’s fence keeps being demolished by status signaling do-gooders.

    So how did our good Christian predecessors manage a good Christian genocide? Naturally they did so in a way that built a high trust society, whereas Weston’s approach to genocide “It is not by tribal taboos and copy-book maxims that she has pursued her relentless march from the amoeba to man and from man to civilization” is apt to undermine a high trust society.

    We shall visit past good Christian genocides, but, before visiting past good Christian genocides, let us revisit the parable of the Good Samaritan:

    Luke Chapter 10:

    29 But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?
    30 And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.
    31 And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.
    32 And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.
    33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,
    34 And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
    35 And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.
    36 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?

    So the good Samaritan is the neighbor of the man who fell among thieves.

    Which implies that the Levite and the priest were not the neighbor of the man who fell among thieves, let alone all the other Samaritans.

    Since the protagonist of the story was from Jerusalem, the levite and the priest were geographically his neighbors, but, being no good, did not deserve to be treated as neighbors. The Samaritan was not geographically his neighbor, but did deserve to be treated as a neighbor. The word “Neighbor” implies that geography and ethnicity matters, but not to the extent of overriding human decency.

    Notice that wine is mildly antiseptic, and prevents wounds from becoming infected, while oil protects the exposed living flesh that is trying to form scar tissue to cover the wound. Jesus is not only commending good behavior, but also reminding his audience to follow the best medical practice of the day.

    So you are not required to love the Levite, the priest, and all the other Samaritans. Just that good Samaritan. And, given the conspicuous propensity of the Staving Children of Africa to behave badly towards white people, and indeed badly to any African who is not close kin, you can refrain from loving them also. You are required to show generosity and forgiveness that moves us from defect/defect equilibrium to cooperate/cooperate equilibrium, but not actually required to be a doormat to be walked on. You are not required, or even permitted, to be a cuckold. If you love the priest after he passed by on the other side, you are undermining, rather than supporting, a high trust equilibrium. Further, if someone claims to love the priest after he crossed to the other side, and the social justice warrior who threw him to the wolves without worrying about his innocence or guilt, he is claiming to be holier than Jesus, and if I had my way, we would crucify him and see if he rises again. Holiness spirals are dangerous, and need to be forcefully discouraged.

    And now, the much promised, much foreshadowed, account of how to genocide inferior races and take their stuff in a good Christian fashion, as our ancestors did; Past best practice for acquiring land and resources currently occupied by no-good people who prevent it from being put to its highest and best use while supporting, rather than undermining, your society’s high trust equilibrium:

    A bunch of white American settlers want to settle on American Indian land. Indians have previously indicated that they are unhappy with this, and there are previous agreements that white people will not settle on this land. You offer them payment, including a lot of barrels of firewater. Indians accept the deal, land for nice stuff, including lots of firewater. They get drunk, stay drunk, while settlers move in and build some forts.

    After a while, the whiskey runs out. The Indians wake up with a blazing hangover, no food, and no hunting grounds. “We have been cheated”, they wail.

    They demand their land back. The settlers in the fort tell them to go to hell.

    Some braves agree to go bravely looking for some undefended or minimally defended white women and children. They catch a woman, and two small children. Whom they rape, then skin, then burn alive. Then they bravely go back to their tribe and tell their tribe. “Well now it is war. So which side are you on. The side of us very brave braves, or the side of the people who took your land and gave you this hangover?”

    The tribe declares for the warpath.

    And then you kill them all and take their stuff.

    Weston’s error was that he proposed to kill them and take their stuff without first legitimately purchasing the land and tempting them into committing unspeakable crimes. Had he done so, and obtained the land in that fashion, then this would have created the dangerous precedent that some stronger party could take the land from him, undermining the high trust equilibrium that made the great achievements of his society, of which he was so proud, possible, for that high trust equilibrium and the ensuing high achievements rested on tribal taboos and copy-book maxims.


    vxxc2014 Reply:

    Thank you for posting that…getting blocked here.


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  • vxxc2014 Says:

    “he is claiming to be holier than Jesus, and if I had my way, we would crucify him and see if he rises again. Holiness spirals are dangerous, and need to be forcefully discouraged.”



    4candles Reply:

    “The New Testament does not dump the old.”

    Umm, well, that’s a theological debate in itself. There’s plenty to say that is precisely what it does. In fact, NRx may even depend upon it.


    Kgaard Reply:

    Yeah I was wrestling with that point myself. The New Testament does seem to largely obviate or replace the old. But that does raise the question of why the Old Testament still gets a place in the Bible AT ALL. Are we supposed to pick and choose? That wouldn’t make sense either.

    That and the issue of how you define “neighbor.” Jim is saying some guy in Somalia is NOT your neighbor in a Christian sense.

    I seem to recall the test was whether the person to be dealt with/helped/ministered to assented to Christianity as truth. If not then aren’t you supposed to shake the dust from your feet etc and split? This would augur against importing Muslims wholesale under the banner of Christian charity.


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  • Alrenous Says:

    There is a dominant society-wide status system. Its purpose is to reward X, and punish those who oppose X.

    Dear reader: what is X? Specifically, what is the highest-status thing to signal you believe X is?


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