Quote note (#187)

Gary North against revolution:

You don’t need a revolution to escape the system. You need secession. You need a withdrawal of support for the existing systems. You need to revoke the legitimacy which you extended to these organizations. You need to do it, and everybody else needs to do it. Nobody organizes this. People just learn, scandal by scandal, bureaucratic snafu by bureaucratic snafu, that the system is irreparable. It cannot be reformed. It must not be captured. It must be de-funded. The secret of liberty is not revolution; the secret of liberty is to de-fund the existing centralized order.

(It’s complicated, but North is pointing in the right direction.)

September 23, 2015admin 19 Comments »
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  • Quote note (#187) | Neoreactive Says:

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    Posted on September 23rd, 2015 at 1:40 pm Reply | Quote
  • michael Says:

    I think the Cathedral has anticipated this its very difficult. BTC was a possible way to opt out of state controlled and monitored money that didnt work out BTC was captured.Theres no way to trade theres no free or cheap land, to withdraw to, those constraints make free education all but impossible. communication is completely monitored. It wont be long before being non mixed race will be suspicious then racist and finally criminal as will be any ethnic or nationalist affinities.They have so normalized outrageous state control that any disruptive technology at this point could simply be outlawed without so much as a bleet from the sheep.


    Dark Psy-Ops Reply:

    Go long East Asia.

    If I had a mobile job (like my freelance programmer friends) I would have already moved out of the West. It’s still the long-term plan, and if BTC succeeds there’s going to be a big increase in those kinds of opportunities (for mobile, digital employment). BTC hasn’t been captured, there’s just an ongoing coup attempt by evil crypto-commies, and I’d happily bet against their success. Also, I think Trump and co. are early signs of major destabilizing processes that are going to effect the Cathedral in the coming decade. Pretty soon the Cathedral is going to be calling for secession in order to save itself. This is surely an optimistic sign: http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/dissolve-the-united-states-1731354818

    The point is to escape democracy and the sheep economy, but we can’t do it from the inside.


    Posted on September 23rd, 2015 at 3:05 pm Reply | Quote
  • Quote note (#187) | Reaction Times Says:

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    Posted on September 23rd, 2015 at 5:14 pm Reply | Quote
  • SVErshov Says:

    Gandhi staff, it will end in bloodbath. nobody want to be de-funded. “revoke the legitimacy” another good reason for bloodbath. experiments with different SD models shows interesting data: you can remove agriculture and all money going into it and replace it with education and technology and result is the same – collapse. overestimating importance of institution and policies going paired with overconfidentiality bias. learn to swim or buy a submarine.


    Posted on September 23rd, 2015 at 5:18 pm Reply | Quote
  • Exfernal Says:

    Boycotting a corrupt institution doesn’t work if it’s a monopoly.


    caged kindness Reply:

    …or if 9/10ths of your polity has been bought off or co-opted in a significant way by the Cathedral.


    Posted on September 23rd, 2015 at 5:43 pm Reply | Quote
  • John Hannon Says:

    “The secret of liberty is not revolution”

    Put another way –



    Posted on September 23rd, 2015 at 8:24 pm Reply | Quote
  • Dots Says:

    how do I do this? do I form an LLC in Estonia that trades my labor with my bosses?


    Posted on September 24th, 2015 at 12:18 am Reply | Quote
  • freihals Says:

    I have seen Dr North, over the years, slowly move to the point where he is now. As Admin has noted, his advice points generally in the correct direction. To achieve a civilization that does not, by its every essence, endanger its future, we must have complete physical and cognitive secession….not revolution.


    Posted on September 24th, 2015 at 2:00 am Reply | Quote
  • Hattori Says:

    Sailer just namedropped Moldbug hard


    Posted on September 24th, 2015 at 3:14 am Reply | Quote
  • pyrrhus Says:

    I believe that the central government needs to get a lot weaker, which it likely will, before we in flyover country (everywhere except DC, NY area, and Cal) start sidling slowly towards the sidelines.


    Erebus Reply:

    Has the federal government grown weaker, to any appreciable extent, at any point over the past 50 years? What makes you think that it’s likely to get a lot weaker in the foreseeable future? Those so-called entitlements aren’t going to pay for themselves…


    admin Reply:

    You’re surely not suggesting that structural bankruptcy makes the state stronger?


    Erebus Reply:

    If by stronger you mean more resilient, then no. Of course not.
    …However, if you mean more aggressive and ubiquitous, more determined to consolidate power further, to squeeze blood from stones, even if only to keep the charade alive for a little while longer…

    The federal government may be rotting from the inside-out, but it’s not withering away. And it’ll probably grow even larger — perhaps far larger — before it collapses under its own weight. “The USA is a communist country” would be appropriate to repeat here, I think.

    admin Reply:

    The Soviet Union is a single case, and therefore more anecdote than solid precedent, but it suggests that centralized socialist organizations can just rot quite gently to pieces. How many cops, soldiers, and spooks are going to put their lives on the line for a dying WashCorp? An enraged army of SJWs isn’t going to substitute for a loyal security apparatus.

    Erebus Reply:


    I agree with you. But to me it looks like the federal government is not getting weaker, and the regulatory bodies and alphabet agencies under its purview are, if anything, actually getting stronger. At the same time, local government is becoming ever more irrelevant. The Libertarian trend has died, and most Americans — ever more Americans — are used to a large federal government as a fact of life. An astounding number of them would like an even larger and more powerful fedgov. (Astounding, to me, is non-zero in this context.)

    The Soviet government apparatus was very large and its tendrils extended to every facet of private life; it seems to me that we’re heading in the same exact direction. The US version has “American Characteristics”, but it is along the same lines and will probably meet the same end. The only important question is: Will technological advances hasten this, or delay it?

    (“Stronger” is actually a very vague and imprecise word to use here. I said above that the regulatory bodies and government agencies are getting stronger. What I meant is that they’re getting larger, are exercising more authority, and are also becoming more brazen about selectively enforcing the laws and regulations under their jurisdiction. They do not, however, appear to be more effective at fulfilling the missions of their organizations; in fact, they’re often quite inept.)

    Posted on September 24th, 2015 at 4:20 am Reply | Quote
  • RJL Says:

    The words of the spymaster that North is trying to disagree with:

    “What I see happening is an end to national dictat and the emergence of bottom-up clarity, diversity, integrity, and sustainability. Individual towns across the USA are now nullifying federal and state regulations – for example gag laws on animal cruelty, blanket permissions for fracking. Those such as my colleague Parag Khanna that speak to a new era of city-states are correct in my view.”

    The fantasy of bottom-up consensus building is naive, but the emphasis on decentralization and local, partial secession/resistance is heading in an nrx direction.


    SVErshov Reply:

    onen seriouse obstacle to overtake, – regardless of direction You heading, You always reach somewhere else.


    Posted on September 24th, 2015 at 5:49 am Reply | Quote

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