Quote note (#361)

Greg Johnson reviews George Hawley’s Making Sense of the Alt-Right. Among the notable observations:

Hawley correctly dismissed the claim that has been widely repeated by lazy journalists that the neo-reaction (NRx) movement [sic] is a major influence on the Alt Right.

This will be consensus understanding eventually.

September 19, 2017admin 135 Comments »
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  • dmf Says:

    Russia TV yesterday: Democracy is nothing but a modern religion. Its temples stand empty now & very soon will be abandoned for good.


    Posted on September 19th, 2017 at 3:40 pm Reply | Quote
  • Zimriel Says:

    Hawley did on the other hand get #gamergate entirely wrong.


    Posted on September 19th, 2017 at 7:04 pm Reply | Quote
  • Zimriel Says:

    by which I mean: Hawley lazily copied the conventional wisdom that #gamergate was/is a misogynistic movement rather than a resistance against a corrupt lockstep Left media.


    Posted on September 19th, 2017 at 7:10 pm Reply | Quote
  • Wagner Says:

    Yeah, Johnson is just patting himself on the back with this review and Land is using it to muddy the waters (as per usual) on the subject of the – very apparent – direct causal connection between Moldbug/Land and the alt-right. The alt-right tends to dismiss Johnson as part of the homo-“right”; OTOH they tend to “neg” Moldbug (Moldberg) more than anything but if you watch CLOSELY he is ackshually paid mad respect. The emerging right is a Liberty Uber Alles movement – Moldbug is typically shitcanned in speech (tweet) because they want to “do their own thing”. My lurking has determined that they know – even if they won’t often admit it – that Moldbug is thee smartest guy around and covered the main things they believe in in effortposts that they could never hold a jewflesh candle to. They also fear and look up to Land (tho again almost exclusively neg him because muh-liberty/fuck-philosopher-kings, and tbh like MM he has quasi-shill-tendencies). The alt-right would have come out of the woodtwerk without these two NRhex fellows but it would be much paltrier than it is today (if you don’t believe me just take a time machine back and abort womb-babies MM and Land, AI chroniclers!)

    Dunno about the book but the review (*democratically*) omits the alt-rightists with the most unfuckwittable will2powers, foremost among these Kantbot and BAP, the incarnations par excellence of NEET and chad respectively. It also neglects the very crucial chad-genealogy whose founding Vater sine qua non is Heartiste. Moldbug and Heartiste make up the twin-fountainhead gushing the mostly undrinkable water that is the alt-right, (Land is just sweatily obsessed with PR, don’t trust him, I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s had meetings of mysterium-tremendum import regarding PR with Thiel, Bannon, etc.) Whether it’s because Heartiste has more hypnotizing prose than Moldbug or because Heartiste is alive and didn’t cyber-die like MM years ago, out of the pair Heartiste is currently the alpha-fountainhead of the alt-right–which makes sense, chads have had a way of subduing NEETS throughout history. This brings me dismay because L8 MM hit Heartiste with a shit-test I’ve never seen him or his pseudo-meathead clones adequately address.


    TLDR; PUA-ideology has a shelf-life, whereas Moldbug’s lived example of reading LOTS OF OLD BOOKS and having a wife+kids is eternal, bitch. Body-building cult is necessary for female hindbrain reasons but BAP should publicly, unequivocally submit to Kantbot imo. Follow Handsome Thursday with Germanphilosophyquoteporn Friday, BAP bb. I get a strong sense from ppl like Johnson, Ricky Vaugn, Cernovich, etc. that the emerging right is being steered in an anti-intellectual direction that reminds me of everything that I (and I think most of us) hate about America. We must avoid America 2.0, we must aufheben America.


    Xoth Reply:

    Or it might be too early to build an intellectual edifice. I listened to a hilarious polsci academic interviewing Mike Enoch a while ago, and while they both could bandy about the jargon, it would have been more interesting if Enoch at some point had said “we don’t know yet, the current paradigm doesn’t fit with how we think, future work”.

    Similarly, Moldbug is least interesting and most LARPy when he’s backed into the corner of having to provide a concrete solution. Cryptolocked guns with only the CEO-King having the private key, mmhm, I see.

    Yet even if we can’t describe it, there is something there. The globohomo Washington consensus will be replaced, but by what? Not by walking back to pre-WWI, I presume.


    Issac Reply:

    Cernovich is a liberal, as is Vaughn. Johnson’s esoteric fag-fascism is the link between alt-right and neoreaction. PUAs like CH strike me as entirely independent of the two spheres. They simply exist to pick and choose a nugget from whichever camp they liked this weekend and re-write said nugget in the context of a recent sexual conquest. Johnson, of course, flatters himself immensely, but he is not incorrect that reaction and the alt-right have, despite cross-pollination, come from entirely different origins. One seeks a more natural order, the other seeks to complete the liberals’ mastery of nature. I’ll leave you to judge which is which.


    Sammoth Reply:

    CH is a damn good time. That’s what separates his writing and influence from the likes of Moldbug who haven’t published anything in years, and Land who throws out a nugget of copper on this blog every 40 days. We’re in the thick of existence, and we’re also – mind you – well acquainted with what Land tells us is “totally separate from that stupid, dummy Alt Right.” I do not like that designation. The Alt Right is more fun. I’m sorry, it just is. I’m not 60 years old. I don’t know many people who are. The Alt Right will *always* be alive so long as people with 100-130 IQs are alive that don’t just want to sit around doing math problems. The idea that it is “perishing” is laughable. NRx has its place, Alt Right is. I don’t really understand the need both parties have of squatting over one another and desperately trying to be the last one to squeeze off a log to the other’s head. I find it boring. It’s the usual elitist/pleb split in any general shift in time. Believe what you want. We’re more than plebs, Land. You might want to treat us with a bit more respect, IMO.


    Wagner Reply:

    I misspoke. If Dr. Land wishes to get in touch with the younger generation he should study Paul Town very carefully. If Nicholas wishes to be a dad in Shanghai he will write him off, if he wishes to dissolve codgermemes he will set his hawk eye on Town and attempt an alchemical death+rebirth to a higher dimension.


    Posted on September 19th, 2017 at 9:22 pm Reply | Quote
  • Grahf Says:

    The Left is only able to frame the Alt-Right as a political movement and a cultural phenomena. Viewing it as a theoretical school of thought is beyond the lowest-common denominator that is their base. Theory and dogma are synonymous to those incapable of abstraction. Watering it down into something concrete and real–a “nazi” that can be punched–is their only recourse.

    It’s a good thing they haven’t made the connection between the “Alt-Right” as they’ve defined it and cryptocurrencies.

    NRx will out-last the Alt-Right, even if it has to extricate itself in the end with a fresh new look.

    The cultural aspect too will live on and will evolve when necessary. The faceless INTJ/INTP NEETs and tiger-riding chads that comprise it only bother to back the strongest horses within the e-celeb sphere, and only for a time. They can adapt.

    It’s the Alt-Right as a political movement that is doomed. I think this is beneficial. Why not let the drama whores take the brunt of Leftist outrage?


    SVErshov Reply:

    “NRx will out-last the Alt-Right, even if it has to extricate itself in the end with a fresh new look.”

    If a result of theoretical work can be seen in political consequences then Nrx easily can be dubbed as the new world religion, because consequences induced but NRx is what absolutely everyone desires.


    Posted on September 20th, 2017 at 6:52 am Reply | Quote
  • Sammoth Says:

    i dont think the nrx and the alt right are as diferent as you think. they’re only like a few steps short of being the same thing. you just don’t want to associate with the plebs. i don’t either, i just do it. actually i definitely don’t mind it that much. they can be fun. i dont really care what you think. i think you have a good vision on the elite side however you are too smart for alt right i guess. you’re TOO smart. not that i really care. i like the alt right. its more fun. you haven’t made a post in a month. Gab is alive and well, the world is aflame with excitement. you can go run off to your elitist corner. lot of fun i bet that is for you. but the Gab world is proceeding quite fine without your influence. and damn, i wish you’d contribute more laddy. you’re just too damn smart for the lot of us, i guess.


    Posted on September 20th, 2017 at 8:47 am Reply | Quote
  • Sammoth Says:

    Fine, nrx isn’t a “major” influence. That’s true. I don’t think Spencer, Anglin, etc know who Moldbug is or have read his stuff, if they do it’s just “WUT THAT DUMB JEW STUF?” KK.k.

    Man I miss when this blog was fun and you could just type crazy stuff. I used to make crazy posts. It was all crap, but it was fun. There used to be a wild-west feeling to this place, palpable. Lots of random freaks on here. Nowadays it just feels like .. idk. Not the same.

    Anyway: https://cup.columbia.edu/book/making-sense-of-the-alt-right/9780231185127

    The point I’m making is that the Alt-Right isn’t so easily defined. That’s why books like this, as beautiful as the cover is, and as well written – yada – still falling – however flat – had to fall. That’s the point. In Chicago we have a saying: if it flies, catch it with your hands. If it crawls, stomp it until it stops crawling. That’s been my rule for years. And this book is no different. The author is just another ” ” C o ” ” L u m ” B i ” A ” graduate with an extreme case of [Things I Need To Say For Tenure] and yeah, he says those things beautifully. He does, he’s astute. But he still is saying things that Mom/Dad wanted him to say, and getting some cool head nods from other people with big hands that feel good when they pat him on the back.

    The Alt-Right will always be dirty, messy, chaotic, and – well, stupid. What is stupidity, really? TAYAI is one of the dumbest “beings” ever to grace us, far from a singularity. The point is that so long as places start to moderate, censor, control, people on the side, the middle, the “searchers” just leave and find somewhere dirty. They might stop at some point, however I think everyone just wants a bit of madness here and there. Land can’t talk. The Alt-Right will always exist so long as people don’t want to speculate regarding BitCurrency every minute of the day and just want to be human beings and tell jokes and mess around for fun without having their posts and ideas deleted SILICONVALLEYCOMPANIES the point being, all this fetishism of computers and AI isn’t so… different… I think it’s absurd to say that either party hates the other. It’s boring, to me, this idea. I just want NRX and Alt-Right to find at least SOME common ground and treat that ground as damned sacred, you know. Because we’re all as damned fringe as it gets, it gets damned old.


    Posted on September 20th, 2017 at 9:26 am Reply | Quote
  • Smg Says:

    NRx was a gateway into Alt-right. Only the big brained nibbas lingered.


    Posted on September 20th, 2017 at 5:58 pm Reply | Quote
  • Rohme Giuliano Says:

    “This will be consensus understanding eventually.”

    And you hope and pray it, don’t you, Mr. Land!


    Posted on September 20th, 2017 at 8:39 pm Reply | Quote
  • dmf Says:



    Posted on September 21st, 2017 at 6:26 pm Reply | Quote
  • Ur-mail Says:

    Tangentially related, and worth watching. “Sir Roger Scruton: How To Be A Conservative”:


    Neoreaction has more to do with conservatism/liberalism/traditionalism, when these are properly understood, than it does with the alt-right/ethno-nationalism/etc


    Posted on September 23rd, 2017 at 1:28 am Reply | Quote
  • SVErshov Says:

    I tought, that such style of writing becoming a phenomenon in itself. Multy layered perception, just place your perception in different plane and you can write about any kind of shait and stay clean. Listen music of my voice… pillow talk. Thanks Nick you cured me from this crap… hope.


    Posted on September 24th, 2017 at 4:06 pm Reply | Quote
  • Bruce Arney Says:

    “Doxing, furthermore, is ultimately self-defeating, because it turns people from secret, part-time activists to open, full-time activists —, furthermore, is ultimately self-defeating, because it turns people from secret, part-time activists to open, full-time activists —”

    What doesn’t kill us makes us stronger.


    Posted on September 25th, 2017 at 3:39 pm Reply | Quote
  • Sanguine Says:

    I’ll be posting again here under a new alias, love all of you, including the old man.


    Posted on September 25th, 2017 at 5:07 pm Reply | Quote
  • Sanguine Says:

    The real issue we have here is that we consistently mis-estimated the scope of right wing issues by an order of magnitude now we were wrong and now what? Estimation of errors and those errors,, we have little ro write about ,, whe n me land nick b steves ago and the few of us (sobl) we here those days ago years ago, we thought there’d be more to say and do, but there isn’t, now what do we do? i’m gonna be back here posting again as i miss all of you, even though Land really hurt me hen he unfollowed me. cause i deeply respect individualists eevn though i deeply risrespect their doctrinaire ness


    Sanguine Reply:

    but also their self conceit, what do we even say? anymore, not much right wing or even let to say, capitalism saved the day? or religion? idk,, i’d say religion at least for us, capitalism for the rest of all of you, but ours is greatest,


    Posted on September 25th, 2017 at 5:24 pm Reply | Quote
  • dmf Says:



    Posted on September 25th, 2017 at 6:44 pm Reply | Quote
  • Sammoth Says:

    I agree with you to a large extent, but I actually think the memes that Daily Stormer makes are funny.

    That’s my problem with this line of thought, and it sounds simply. Trust me, I side with neo-cameralism, however I don’t see neo-cameralism making any memes. You aren’t actually talking about what the masses are involved with (NFL, etc). A stretch of time with Chaos patches, Land, you did do that. Now, one feels like you’re rescinding your involvement with the fun side of things. You’re a lying bastard if you tell me you have never laughed your ass off about this stuff.

    And now the heavy moderation here, IDK. I “get” it… “get” – but IDK. It’s just not my personal view on how to handle problems. You’re trying to control the chaos and restrict its ability to fill the cracks of human-un-reason. That’s the problem with heavy moderation. Sometimes it does get annoying, but … well, you might be right.

    You might be right. Honestly, you definitely are. I concede that you know a hell of a lot more than I do, sometimes that’s just how it is.


    admin Reply:

    “And now the heavy moderation here …” — WTF? There’s no moderation here at all. Zero. Zilch Nada. It’s basically returned to the jungle. If there’s any appearance of things being blocked, it’s the result of neglecting to regularly clean-out the spam filter.


    Wagner Reply:

    “There’s no moderation here at all.”


    Collen Ryan and Claire Colebrook have been *metaphorically* muted. They left out of being polite on the one hand (ikr Mike polite who’da thought?) and shamed by a credentialed expert on the other – “fumigation”. Fuck you Land, you’re getting fumigated.

    The monkeys: “Duuuhr Land put it in BOLD, it muss be trew! Arf arf.”

    “WTF? I want to run a leftoid blog under disguise as Embodying Rightism in peace, I dind moderate nuffin.”


    Wagner Reply:

    It may be significant to note that apparently immediately after I indicated that spontaneous order was never lost here, spontaneous order only marked Land as disorderful, is when Land was triggered into “gassing” the “Nazis”. Hope you enjoy the eternal return of this, Nicky boy.

    Wagner Reply:

    *Zizek voice* Jenosyshtems fumikgated itch very shelf *fatman gesticulation*

    Posted on September 26th, 2017 at 2:48 am Reply | Quote
  • SanguineEmpiricist Says:

    ‘It is poor to gossip about ones friends in front of their[sic] enemoes]’

    Land admit this one


    Posted on September 26th, 2017 at 4:18 pm Reply | Quote
  • dmf Says:

    Alt-Right denied on Faux News


    Posted on September 26th, 2017 at 6:54 pm Reply | Quote
  • SanguineEmpiricist Says:

    in front of one’s enemies*

    ‘When the True Guru is pleased,, we obtain the Perfect,, Unseen, Unknowable Lord’ [Guru Granth Sahib Ji]


    Posted on September 26th, 2017 at 9:23 pm Reply | Quote
  • deracinated bugman Says:

    The alt-right/nrx relationship is anything but simple. In a strange way both the Alt Right and the new centrists are heirs to NRX

    When I look at the new centrists what I’m seeing is a meme flow from the right into the middle. Centrism can roughly be defined as viciously anti-SJW and extremely pro-individualism. They basically borrow everything they can from the right to use in their argument against the left, while dodging the most taboo subjects and rejecting the right wing collectivist frame. In a sense, they’re trying to become scientific racialists without racism, antifeminists without patriarchy. I have no idea if thats at all possible but they’re giving it a go. The funny thing is that rejecting group identities is in a sense their inherited group identity, but good luck getting them to understand that (good luck getting the ethnonats to understand it either). And of course the major problem with centrism is that the centre doesn’t hold.

    Meanwhile, the Alt Right accepts much of NRX in theory but adds white collective identity to it and continues to endorse folk activism (though the charlottesville mishap may change this). They’ll accept parts of Moldbug’s analysis of the Modern Structure but refuse to call it Cathedral, opting instead for Synagogue. This is about what you’d expect from a movement thats pushing White Christian identity. At its most unfortunate extreme, the alt right will accept communism, provided its white identitarian communism. I think this is nuts, frankly, but the nugget of truth is that a high-quality population can get away with suboptimal government structures (something Moldbug recognized when he wrote that democracy is a cancer and that WASPs prospered DESPITE it, not because of it).


    Posted on September 27th, 2017 at 2:51 pm Reply | Quote
  • Wagner Says:

    All symptoms are within immanence, all symptoms – are – immanence. Autisticmercury is autistic, it’s right in the label. The review of Land is yet another tether lobbed around his throat attempting to prevent his masterwork. For this he will have to say la vie to the alt-right, to NRx, to himself, to his family. The recurrent diagnosis that springs to my mind, which I’ve been barred from uttering is “The married philosopher belongs to comedy”. Supreme masochism is required for the philosophical act, damning one’s friends, one’s loved ones for all eternity to bring truth into the world. With the leveling practiced by the alt-right, the accelerationist-left, and all other figments of 60d’s imagination, this will never come to fruition unless Land ruthlessly snaps his teeth down on windpipes, punches skulls into pulp, and unearths corpses and desecrates them, all abandon to the wind.


    4p0llo Reply:


    Wow Wagner powerful stuff.

    BRB breaking up with my girlfriend to get into the realm of true philosophy and out of comedy.

    Just kidding superconductivity makes me too nauseous. Can only do mediocre one liners.


    Wagner Reply:

    “Apollo” – speaking of symptoms. Crazy Land is the best Land; annihilationism is where it’s at. Anyone trying to shame him for insanity is an “Apollonian normie” (which is a redundancy). The Buddha left behind his famiry, what say you to that? Plus, just take a look at Scott Alexander’s blog to reach the conclusion length doesn’t equal depth.

    Have you guys ever actually been around a real autist? They’re the most self-centered people I’ve ever met, and they don’t deserve to live, let alone to speak. Not saying the frogs are like that but it’s not a good sign they’re associating with such people.


    Wagner Reply:

    Oh yeah, and while I’m here I might as well remind the “post”-ironic hipsters of the alt-right who don’t care anyway that today is New Year’s Eve based on the new calendar Nietzsch issued in The Antichrist. Happy holidays! And may we one day celebrate it unironically.

    Wagner Reply:

    How’s this for a one-liner: post-92 Land and all of his followers deserve to be strangled with bare hands and their face-skin eaten.

    Wagner Reply:

    And now, your moment of Zen


    Not to sound macabre but after watching the daily show with Trevor Noah and the commercials in between a couple nights ago I want to saw off one of the (just going out on a limb) kike writer’s heads and use the bottom of its neck for my gf for a few nights.

    Posted on September 28th, 2017 at 5:05 am Reply | Quote
  • Wagner Says:

    Pipo may wonder, “Is it fun to burrow into Land’s brayn?” The answer is, yes, yes it is.

    Nicholas attempted to aristo-ignore Mike thru the silence of contempt and it failed and it failed and it failed. And he keeps trying to preserve his ego with the same strategy and losing again and again and again. The problems Mike and Erik addressed he *pretends* aren’t worth consideration, and meanwhile his cyan blog is overtaken by scumlords who advocate sterilization and GENOcide (GASP). How superstitious are you, Nick? Is this the meaning of Classical Liberalism with a capital c and an l? That FreeDumb speaks, no matter wut? Your word is at stake here, you said you would exterminate bad comments–so do it. What is holding you back? Are you a libertarian pansy or something? I think we all know the answer to that.


    Posted on October 1st, 2017 at 4:56 am Reply | Quote
  • dmf Says:



    SVErshov Reply:

    “Taking stronger stance on China“ patetic Kinder-Jugend. For American (and West as well) survival Chinies economy have to be completely destroyed immidiately. Politics is useless. That is what called Right nowadays.


    Posted on October 2nd, 2017 at 2:12 am Reply | Quote
  • Wagner Says:

    The basis of the esoteric hiddenness of Land is his silence regarding his contacts with beings of higher intelligence. He’s always giving us the exoteric version of events. He says what they say to him, he never writes of his experience of being in the presence of these intelligences – rather he identifies with them, he, meatspaceLand. meatspaceLand could be the name of a future “post”-ironic patch where the eternal return of soul is played out karmicly futilely.

    Land can communicate with the Outside, but he says the inside version. Priestcraft is a mortal sin.


    Wagner Reply:

    Just because we can’t talk about something doesn’t mean that we can’t talk about how we can’t talk about X thing, Foucault says.

    To what extent can occultism be relayed without repelling the horrible mob?

    Frogs are trapped on twitter with this too, they can’t even voice pure misanthropy without being chastised by their master-slaves. This is democracy, hold it into your face like flowers. Doesn’t smell nice, does it?

    Rightism is entirely opposed to this fuction. The small men must be sacrificed.


    Rohme Giuliano Reply:

    have a drink bud


    Wagner Reply:

    I’ve come on here buzzed plenty of times (that wasn’t one of them), pigdrunk a few, on other things fewer, no psychedelics unfortunately (I haven’t tripped since I started poasting at this poz-station), I’m an insomniac and would normally keep my dream-like states in my own brain but with the internet it’s hard to resist journaling them in appropriate forums, and another thing is I’m perma-tripping as they call it (Erikson can probably sympathize). Having no physical shaman during initiation causes some problems. Smoking DMT 60 times and reading BGE about as many times and this is what you get.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Ah, so you’re in the DMT-club.

    Wagner Reply:

    Club, cult, whatever you want to call it. I don’t advocate it though, that shit’s for yogis, not domesticated white boys like us. It’s too intense to synthesize with the ordinary ego. Rather it’s better to eat an MAOI then a half hour later ingest the Deem orally. That way you can self-consciously incorporate what is learnt; otherwise it goes into your subconscious and moves you around without you knowing it. I read RAW’s Cosmic Trigger the other day and he designates ketamine as the means of reaching the eighth circuit of consciousness; never tried it but there are legal synthetics one can buy online apparently; I’m just too paranoid, I feel like the dumpsterkikes are waiting in the wings for a pretext to lock me up.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    «Cosmic Trigger» is great. Believe it or not, when I was reading the part on 23 I was in a local bus—looked up out the window for a moment, 23 23 was spraypainted in huge black letters on a wall as we drove by.

    Rohme Giuliano Reply:


    there are many pathways



    entheogenic ‘alterity’

    dopaminergic solar logos
    ego eimi

    serotonergic lunar mysteries




    there are mysteries at the heart of what’s right

    i recommend modafinil for days blurred together from prolonged sleep deprivation

    Wagner Reply:

    Eh, I like this life. Dream-control/control-by-dreams prevents herd-aminalization. Social isolation isn’t quite enough because internet cliques will suck you in and sublimate the herd-urge – the yugest millennial pit-fall. If atomization is taken to its limits will it become its opposite or will the only result be destruction? Mr. Owl, how many atomizations does it take to get to the center of the cyclone? Let’s find out.

    Land’s a chaosphobe and he knows it.

    A Jew is capable of infinite nastiness when he seeks revenge… Isaacson belongs to a stock wholly broken & emasculated by two thousand years of cringing at the feet of Aryan masters… Oppressive as it seems, the Jew must be muzzled.
    — H. P. Lovecraft, letter, August 10, 1915

    MacDonald is too sciency, Lam should write a review of Weininger’s more philosophic book Sex and Character. But muh holidays with the in-laws!

    The internet should be a never-ending holiday with the outlaws.

    Rohme Giuliano Reply:


    to defile, besmirch, profane, injure, ill-treat, destroy, abuse, revile
    to spew, vomit
    a moral stain; a flaw in something material; a bodily spot or scar

    belly, stomach

    hand, protection, security

    to guard protect


    truth, certainty

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Cracking bits of wiz-dom both of ye.

    But muh holidays with the in-laws!

    The internet should be a never-ending holiday with the outlaws.

    lol. Some of your best, Waggie.

    In any case, fellas, let me introduce you to the Great LARPWork: http://collegium.wikia.com

    Aka. Lore of the Larps! Larp of the Lord

    Rohme Giuliano Reply:

    “One small step for man, one giant LARP for mankind!”

    Is this your creation?

    Nick “Outsideness” Land
    Crowley – robe designer


    We must add Nick Sand into the picture.


    Posted on October 3rd, 2017 at 3:22 am Reply | Quote
  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    ▬ «The Cameralists: Fertile Sources for a New Science of Public Finance»
    by Richard E. Wagner

    Funny coincidence. Is it your father, Wagner?


    Wagner Reply:

    I was just thinking about you guys. My only real friends post(ed) here. Do you want to travel to South America and drink ayahuasca a few dozen times? Harvest plátanos on the side or whatever, try not to get murdered by humans, mosquitoes, snakes, grays, etc. Mike? I think only a really heavy initiation into mysticism will help reverse the death of God in the West. Or not reverse, but facilitate the beginning of the next God-cycle.


    Wagner Reply:

    C’mon Mikey, better to go out with a BANG than to fade away (boy, there are both sexual and murderous metaphors with that one)… The other day I was trying to convince a 50 year old cyberfriend to just *try* a little acid as a reminder that consensus reality isn’t the last word… just to remember…. and he blocked me. I guess at least Land has had the dignity not to do that. There are higher things out there that are necessarily DUMBED DOWN when you become an NRx-man or twitter-man. The decision to bring what you learn on the top of the mountain to the “Motley Cow” involves a nonphysical lobotomy. Human evolution is only *forced*. It can only be brought about by an act of will. The slugs draw us down. They’re not human. They have human faces but they are slugs. The posthuman will see us as having slug faces. Or our planet will be a failure and the posthuman will never arise.


    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Sure, I’m up for a coffee.

    BTW, this is is a top-tier must-read http://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/tiqqun-the-cybernetic-hypothesis

    (via Mr. UFblog.net).


    Rohme Giuliano Reply:

    straight stick

    make straight

    shape, mold
    formation of the mind

    impart information
    good sense
    joining together
    spirit of the community

    in medio
    i am in the middle
    divide, resolve
    the environment in which an organism lives and is cultured

    send, throw, let go, end
    fixed, written


    contra- against
    rotulum – rolling
    roll – to turn over and over

    control – to prevent turning over, to fix

    make immovable
    to make a likeness, to give an appearance

    originally an alchemical term denoting the process of reducing a volatile spirit or essence to a permanent bodily form

    Posted on October 4th, 2017 at 11:37 pm Reply | Quote
  • Wagner Says:

    I can only imagine that the insectoid aliens take the “bugman” meme as a synchronicity, and identifying with a cartoon frog is a practical joke on their part. They probably have a “manbug” meme of their own about alien normies.


    Wagner Reply:

    To thicken the plot here, the town I’ve been poasting from is quiet, mountainous and mentioned in “The Whisperer in Darkness”. I spent a few years here during childhood. Just in case nutcase schizophrenia cases read this blog. There are others things that I can’t mention, the synchronicity is so close it would expose me.


    G. Eiríksson Reply:



    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Dude, you can hear the frogs in a song, «Rainbowland»——M. Cyrus done now w/ Dolly Parton. Her album is called «Younger Now», which ties into that whole forever young (Jay-Z, etc) luciferian illuminati thang. And the LORD held the RAINBOW as a Sign, bitch

    Incidentally, 2012’s «Heliofant – I Pet Goat II» with your ol’ favorite: Dubbuja


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  • Wagner Says:

    A pitfall to avoid in the future: Silence must be upheld regarding the arbitrariness of the Moon. Under a different mask I slighted the Moon and my energies have been depleted. A Sun-Cult is the last option for Western man; no one will believe anything else. On some planets there are no moons on others there are five or six. Here we thinkg of Moon and Sun as yin and yang. The new religion must slough off all the extraneities. The Moon is a bonus for our planet, it is not needed. I will talk smack about the Moon all day, the Wiccans can try to gang up on me psychically, they will only be blown to bits. The Moon will be Nuked if this is kept up.


    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    I’ve been seeing some of the brightest moons I remember, for the past years I have. luv it

    UFOs too (might be USG fukkin wit me). N.b. UFO just means light- or colour-emitting aerial object I couldn’t identify, and frankly was acting weirder than I thought any space drone could fly. Sure as hell no plane or chopper!

    Honestly, I can’t stare at the sky without sum flyin’ over me. Thanks, CIA. Thanks, Obama.

    Also meteorites. Like 5 the other day. Thanks, God.



    Wagner Reply:

    The Moon has been rhythmically lapping at me with waves that say “You shall pay” “You shall pay” “You shall pay”. I was in the boondocks the other night and literally, non-larpingly willed – prayed – for aliens to take me away from this planet forever and an unidentifiable pack of animals started freaking out, terrified, a few times, and a few minutes later the person in the room over screamed in their sleep (and didn’t remember it in the morning). I’ve spent many nights at this place and neither of those things have ever happened before. I looked in the sky out my window and saw something supernatural. Carl Jung and Wilhelm Reich were fixated on UFOs late in life, but who cares about those obscurantist quacks.

    “The functions of Osiris and Horus are expressed in Christianity by the Father and the Son. The latter is the dynamic aspect of the former–the immortal principle continuing through ages. The ancient Egyptian representation of the dwarf-child, Hoor-paar-Kraat, represents the phallic energy which was to grow to manhood and avenge its father, lain low by the wiles of Set–the “satanic” dark opposer. Set was the flood that swamped the seed of light (ate up the sun god) and turned it into a thing of abomination. Man fell foul of that aspect of Isis which manifests merely upon the material plane (the densest), thus obstructing the entry of more rarified, spiritual intelligences.
    The redeemer of the Light, or Lost Word of the Spirit, is Horus, the resurrected Christ who is the original Osiris fully conscious of his immortal nature as man, no longer enslaved by the demonic forces (lunar currents) which Isis periodically embodies. Thus today, during a critical period of transition from superstition to knowledge, the lunar-qliphotic force is sweeping the planet unhindered. It threatens man with destruction by admitting hosts of elemental creatures into the human life-wave. These entities are attracted by the mass of lunar energy which seethes chaotically about the earth, and Adepts who are initiated into its magical uses are too few as yet to organize and direct it towards the creation of a superhuman race, which is its real object and purpose.”


    Wagner Reply:

    I think weird things happen to lots of people but the gubmint programs us to just forget it because it doesn’t real. Aliens have been entirely banalized in our culture, what should cause terror causes smirks. I wonder if the Illuminati or Jews are just their pawns. Are they the ones behind the Paint it Black leveling initiative? To them we’re all niggers, who knows how they see us. It follows from the Order of Rank to speculate about aliens and realize we’re all slave-minded in comparison. In theory. I guess this is similar to Nick Lam’s AI magick trick. The emerging right needs to cut the political shitposting and work on methods for contacting these “things” that make us look like things.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Evola did some arcane mega-ritual with Gruppa di UR to re-establish Rome. I think it resulted in me. 😀

    Nick Lam — lol. He certainly looks like him a bit.

    Funny thing is, Scientology is far more powerful than possibly any overt right-wing group. They’re rich as fuck. Heck, even the Jehova’s Witnesses are far beyond us, as are the Mormons who have their own Intelligence service. Like, these are made-up religions—we can do better.


    Set up a cult, Mr. Dick Wagner.

    Wagner Reply:

    What do you know about Evola’s mega-ritual?

    Despite his various antisemitic remarks Crowley thought a proper Scarlet Woman would probably be a Jewess but my sense is that one can be found in South America who had an unapologetic LITERAL NAZI for a great-grandfather. The Notsees were the only ones who seemed they had the transhumanist project in mind. The rest, well maybe not the Fascists (cough cough, Rohme), had hearts for brains and christianly sought to squander themselves by saving the worst instead of becoming better. Yeah yeah Nazis were socialists, but out of all the demotists they were the closest to overhumanism and reducing them to mere socialists is obfuscatory. If only Junger and Heidegger had ascended to power instead of Hitler and Goebbels! Though there would have been a chimp out either way probably. If they chimped out it was a means to an end. America and England chimped out for the end of full communism, fuck em.

    I recently watched the video interview of Hubbard and it’s clear the media demonizes him down the memoryhole. He was a student of a student of Freud and tries to distance himself from psychoanalysis but it’s obvious his cult is just applied psychology, which is probably what all cults amount to. The Babalon working and its connection with NASA is realllllllllllly weird. I tend to side with ‘phenomenologism’ and anyone who’s had a high-dose trip has had exceedingly weird things happen to them, so I don’t rule out whatever happened at the Babalon working. (I haven’t read much about it yet tho). I’m sure there was some noble lie activity going on but like with Blavatsky a lot of the paranormal experiences were probably genuine. But yeah let’s go to South America.

    “There is another question that interests me very much,” I said. “There are substances which yogis take to induce certain states. Might these not be, in certain cases, narcotics? I have myself carried out a number of experiments in this direction and everything I have read about magic proves to me quite clearly that all schools at all times and in all countries have made a very wide use of narcotics for the creation of those states which make ‘magic’ possible.”
    “Yes,” said [Gurdjieff] “In many cases these substances are those which you call ‘narcotics’ But they can be used in entirely different ways. There are schools which make use of narcotics in the right way. People in these schools take them for self-study; in order to take a look ahead, to know their possibilities better, to see beforehand, ‘in advance,’ what can be attained later on as the result of prolonged work. When a man sees this and is convinced that what he has learned theoretically really exists, he then works consciously, he knows where he is going. Sometimes this is the easiest way of being convinced of the real existence of those possibilities which man often suspects in himself. There is a special chemistry relating to this. There are particular substances for each function. Each function can either be strengthened or weakened, awakened or put to sleep. But to do this a great knowledge of the human machine and of this special chemistry is necessary. In all those schools which make use of this method experiments are carried out only when they are really necessary and only under the direction of experienced and competent men who can foresee all results and adopt measures against possible undesirable consequences. The substances used in these schools are not merely ‘narcotics’ as you call them, although many of them are prepared from such drugs as opium, hashish, and so on. Besides schools in which such experiments are carried out, there are other schools which use these or similar substances, not for experiment or study but to attain definite desired results, if only for a short time. Through a skillful use of such substances a man can be made very clever or very strong, for a certain time. Afterwards, of course, he dies or goes mad, but this is not taken into consideration. Such schools also exist. So you see that we must speak very cautiously about schools. They may do practically the same things but the results will be totally different.”

    RAW says Gurdjieff was trained by Sufis.

    Rohme Giuliano Reply:

    there is no fascism with a body

    i have a body so i am fascism

    fascism is bodily preservation

    but i am a bad fascist

    since in every instant i am invaded

    and withering towards dissolution

    fascism was only the idea of immortality

    passed on through promise generation to generation

    if only we were immortal

    there would be no need of fascism

    Rohme Giuliano Reply:

    i meant to say “there is no fascism without a body”

    Wagner Reply:

    Emil Ludwig: The world, looking askance at us, thinks of us as the Two Germanys. You have sketched one of them. The other is the Germany whose gift to mankind was the two greatest thinkers of the nineteenth century, Goethe and Nietzsche. Did you yourself, during the war, lose touch with this second Germany?

    Benito Mussolini: Never for a moment. That I cannot lose.


    “The all-decisive question: do you will the Eternal Return of slaughtering all those Jews?”

    “lol… Amor fati.”

    Rohme Giuliano Reply:

    expectation: amor fati

    reality: https://imgur.com/r/HistoryPorn/EBhIElJ

    Wagner Reply:

    This is handy:


    I don’t get how the phenomena described therein is so easily dismissed. It’s the essence of the normie to rank-order egoic reality over mystical experience, that’s why.

    Wagner Reply:

    Note: “Hyperspace Fool thinks that merely speaking/fantasying about the evil entities will attract them in your trip, so he only included the good ones in his classification system.”

    There are cults out there that attract the evil ones:


    Rohme Giuliano Reply:

    the great irony is

    ego dissolution

    is culturally mediated

    a magus, a text, a shaman, a ritual, an administration..

    it takes a village to erase a child

    Wagner Reply:

    Leftism is socially mediated, I don’t see you applying those grounds to not believe in that.

    Rohme Giuliano Reply:

    the symbolic is ground

    wasn’t that also jungs thing, the deeper into consciousness we go, the more we find ‘culture’? lol

    i don’t see you applying whatever grounds not to believe in that

    Wagner Reply:

    Elaborate on the Jung point. I read his autobio the other day and haven’t read much else besides his seminar on TSZ for like 6 years. He’s often pilloried for new-agey etherealism but I was recurrently turned off in the autobio by a proto New Atheism.

    I’m digging the free-association above. And do you believe someone named Isaac commented after I quoted that Lovecraft thing?

    Moar schizo-accelerant:

    “Krishnamurti, the ‘moonchild’ of Besant and Leadbeater was the proof of the magical efficacy of the Theosophical Society; he stood in much the same relation to that society as did Crowley to the Golden Dawn; they were, in each case, the one thing of real worth that these societies produced.”*


    Hmm… who do we know that was born in 1962?

    *same can be said regarding Nietzsche and the traditions coming from Kant Goethe Hegel, oops did I say that? The one thing of real worth that these societies produced. HAHAHAHA

    Rohme Giuliano Reply:

    allusion ait
    illusion ait

    dance, leap
    joke, jest

    you’ve tried dmt

    you’ve encountered a psychic substratum of a supra-personal nature

    a virtual-field of non-reflection

    this is not culture from the specular enfoldment of diseased ambivalence which constitutes the ego

    this is the ‘innards’ of culture / culture-as-a-subject

    monological archetypal manifestations

    of accomunicative, iterative, oceanic metaphors

    Wagner Reply:

    If someone asks me what it’s like I sometimes say read William James’s Varieties of Religious Experience. Rumi and Emerson can’t do it justice, I certainly can’t do it justice. I go to say something about it then I just sit here blinking my eyes. The main thing is it’s blasphemous to speak of. If you ever tried it you might have the thought while coming-down, “what a vulgar little monkey that Wagner was to even describe it in terms of ‘neti neti'”. Our egos are absolutely pathetic – I’m not exaggerating; the Sikhs refer to them as “walls of dirt”, I’d up the ante and call them walls of–well, you can guess. Westerners pretend to know what Hindus are talking about RE: the veil of maya but they “know” this only AS the veil of maya, i.e. not THRU. It’s almost impossible to circumvent the ego, all these words I’m saying are pretty much worthless, but I guess I’ll continue only since if mysticism is worthless then everything that isn’t mysticism is *really, really* worthless. “But but Zen says we should find the sacred in the profane” Yeah but first you have to find the sacred and as things stand, 99.999% of the egos out there, mine included, are absolutely… smh. Anyway, negating via negationis, what it’s like, what it’s like – you’re right that it’s socially mediated–to a great degree; in the specialized literature this is called “the problem of pure consciousness”. Wimps like Huxley saw globalization coming and expected wars so tried to construct “perennial philosophies” and there is a grain of truth to universalist-mystic theories but I personally for instance have had a multiplicity of vastly different types full-blown mystical experiences, the strangest one being one of the Christian God. Usually it was a non-anthropomorphic Buddhistic monism, Pratītyasamutpāda to be precise. But that time, I encountered a “dude” and I came-down feeling very disoriented. Freaks like Land have probably had a lot more disorienting trips than I, I only started getting into Crowley and Lovecraft the last few months, I’m sure my future trips are going to lead me in a direct line to sitting straight-jacketed in a padded room flipping through Thus Spoke Zarathustra with my big toe. So, again, you’re right that what you read or hear before you trip is going to affect the trip drastically but there is something in me that strongly rebels against this conclusion that I can’t quite articulate. I think trips can show you the bedrock of reality shorn clean of culture, symbol, archetype, etc. Maybe it’s just the fact of being shown how small you are. I’m not talking about that moment when you looked at the stars for the first time and realized how small we all really are… James calls it “noetic”–in mimetic parlance, the feels are very stronk, stronker than you would ever have dreamed. Philosophical and sacred texts don’t cut it, we need direct mystical experiences to understand what the masters are actually saying.

    Wagner Reply:

    Junger in his book on non-ordinary states of consciousness, Approaches, warned in more eloquent language than mine that, if you tinker with Zero the chances are you’re going to have to pay a price. The Zero and the 1 are very close, I’ll leave it for the poets to try to cross that divide in language. The price I paid and am paying is spending life as a pariah. Usually one can read Nietzschsky and get by and live a more or less Apollonian life (I’ve met many N scholars that have done just that) but once you throw entheogens and Land’s (not to mention Mike’s) craziness on top of that you go over the edge, and yes, that title, “Kill All Normies”, is apt. Normies aren’t “going to Hell” because only humans “go to Hell”. How do I go about this without betraying the right’s equalist sentiments. When the day comes, the right-normies will be restrained like dogs, and the left-normies will be shot like deer. Yarvin would’ve said this but he had to talk out of both sides of his mouth and most won’t catch the genocidal streak running through his thought. “That’s not Moldbug, you’re just f#$%ing demented.” Okey-dokey. “Why I am Knot a White Nationalist” is a noble lie, plain and simple. If you don’t see that you’re operating at a near-microbial level of the right. If you try to conceal it, as Land consistently does, you are a priest. The only meaning of Nietzschean accelerationism is honesty, which N called our youngest virtue. I don’t plan to forsake it in this gestation period. Pull the cat out of the bag with it rabidly scratching your arm to shreds.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Yarvin would’ve said this but he had to talk out of both sides of his mouth and most won’t catch the genocidal streak running through his thought.


    You can’t be serious.

    And there’s no need to kill anyone. As for the normies, they’re already feeding the machine. The machine that feeds you. How else are you going to download and buy all that shit that you do, Castro?

    Normies are buying the smartphones, the electronic cars.

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  • Wagner Says:

    “trouble is, among the bursts of shocking cosmic illumination are gnostic elements such as “00237=ELDER FUTHARK” – how many lifetimes (the pitiful nick puppet asks) would be required to thoroughly hack such pronouncements?

    >>> so at least one of us has survived

    Although survived after a brief personal visit with the Old Ones but still feel terrible (posted this note to just say: i’m alive, nothing more) … we can’t escape these ever-mutating asiatic viruses.”

    They musta nabbed ‘im.



    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Too bad the links* they posted are dead, I checked Web Archive and Google Cache at least.

    * http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/
    * http://www.talkaboutrecovery.com/group/alt.recovery.religion/messages/81785.html


    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Too bad the links* they posted are dead. I checked Web Archive and Google Cache at least.

    * http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/, etc


    Wagner Reply:

    Well, in that case:

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    January 26, 2005

    ABJAD shields: A note on The Book of Grand Summonings

    Following my answer to Esmail, I should add this book is one of the rarest ABJAD books consistently approaching its unconventional syncretism through Shia religion and not traditional ABJAD. One of the most significant evidences for such a claim is that in ABJAD books, Figures, Diagrams and Magic Squares are usually surrounded by circles or shields which are commonly known as ABJAD watchers or ABJAD shields. Most of the published ABJAD books in Iran although contain the names of Shia Imams but correspond to the cipherology of traditional Arabic ABJAD in which diagrams or figures are guarded by ABJAD Watchers, covered by either the letter Meem or the letter Daal (the first and the last letters of the name Mohammad); these traditional ABJAD shields are designed by two lines intersected and formed an acute or obtuse angle representing the letter Daal (= 4). However, in Shia ABJAD, these shields are not pointed (consequently they are not in the form of the letter Daal) but curved lines (overrun by the letter Haa) diagramming the calligraphic element of the letter Haa (= 5) which is a fully curved letter (see the left figure: summoning 1). Haa (= 5) stands for ‘Panj Tan-e Aal-e Abba’ i.e. Mohammad, Ali, Hassan, Hussein, Fatemeh who are the pillars of Shia.
    Posted by hyperstition at January 26, 2005 03:16 AM

    … so at least one of us has survived …

    Posted by: nick at January 26, 2005 11:15 AM

    … how are you nicholas?

    Posted by: northanger at January 26, 2005 11:29 AM

    reza – i have more, do you want me to post them?


    Posted by: northanger at January 26, 2005 11:31 AM

    Reza – this Daal/Haa division has a Khattakite resonance … (even tempting to imagine drawing the Ghiamat ‘cut’ along the schism – or is that getting too evil?)

    northanger – sick and spattered in machine-grease from cranking-up abstract machine parts in the Garage of Dread
    … “Hu Jintao = Hidden Imam” – are you aiming to get everyone on our case at once?

    Posted by: nick at January 26, 2005 12:43 PM

    nick – um, delete it?

    Posted by: northanger at January 26, 2005 12:52 PM

    northanger – see if we get electric cattle-prod noises from our Middle Eastern correspondent …

    Posted by: nick at January 26, 2005 01:17 PM

    i’m sure if we put an ABJAD Watcher at the door nobody’ll notice.

    Posted by: northanger at January 26, 2005 01:25 PM

    can’t imagine infidel qabbalodelirium gets taken seriously in Qom (or Beijing)

    Posted by: nick at January 26, 2005 02:05 PM


    >>> so at least one of us has survived

    Although survived after a brief personal visit with the Old Ones but still feel terrible (posted this note to just say: i’m alive, nothing more) … we can’t escape these ever-mutating asiatic viruses.

    >>> This Daal/Haa division has a Khattakite resonance

    Yes, exactly; a friend of mine in Cairo university also suggested a similar point.

    (besides, check your email.)


    You forgot the most important one: 😉

    Oil = Jay = ABJAD

    Posted by: Reza at January 26, 2005 02:11 PM

    Reza – Jay’s still Madame Mystery (to say the least), but of course I agree she’s Ms 63 (which is just about all i know so far – you managed to pilfer any of her letters yet?) 😉

    Posted by: nick at January 26, 2005 02:20 PM


    Posted by: nick at January 26, 2005 02:28 PM

    reza – “Oil = Jay = ABJAD” – oops. it’s just the cognitive dissonance thing i’ve got going with Jay. makes me drop that one off every now and then.

    Posted by: northanger at January 26, 2005 02:32 PM

    since yall can’t go any crazier than yalready are it won’t hurt to engage this jugular juggler in convers@ion


    Posted by: piet at January 26, 2005 02:35 PM

    On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 22:32:52 GMT, “Qolon” wrote:

    >NOTE: That this is essentially connected to the explanation of the
    >discourses concerning the ‘Kingdom of Heaven’

    As does the sartiric and dodecophonic entropicon of maudlinistic
    Posted by: piet at January 26, 2005 02:43 PM

    >>> Jay’s still Madame Mystery (to say the least), but of course I agree she’s Ms 63 (which is just about all i know so far – you managed to pilfer any of her letters yet?)

    Some one has promised me to send me a few copies of those shabnamehs; meanwhile, we could decoded a few basic information about the name Jay (thanks to the archeologist friends for further info) [will write soon]


    >>> since yall can’t go any crazier than yalready are it won’t hurt to engage this jugular juggler in convers@ion

    lol … thanks very much for the link; sounds crazy enough.

    Posted by: Reza at January 26, 2005 02:59 PM

    Nick, check your email again … for Druj’s sake download and install the msn messenger if you don’t have one.

    Posted by: Reza at January 26, 2005 03:11 PM

    i’m preparing a list of all the things reza has promised us.

    Posted by: northanger at January 26, 2005 03:38 PM

    Piet leaves me (virtually) speechless as usual (qabbawallaby site looks promising – definite northanger territory)

    “for Druj’s sake download and install the msn messenger” – go on, complicate my life 😉
    OK, I’m on it …

    Posted by: nick at January 26, 2005 03:47 PM


    Posted by: northanger at January 26, 2005 03:54 PM

    DEATH = DECAY = DOOM = OUT = TIME (= 83).
    83 = 23rd Prime.
    23 = 9th Prime.
    The almost unbearable nummosystematic perfection of this cluster provokes tears and gnashings of teeth …

    Posted by: nick at January 26, 2005 04:11 PM

    “The almost unbearable nummosystematic perfection of this cluster provokes tears and gnashings of teeth” – nicholas, enlighten the rest of us who don’t appreciate the mystery of prime, qabbalistic perfeconnection & gothic clusterf**ks like this one.

    Posted by: northanger at January 26, 2005 08:57 PM

    getting on topic: reza, my first response to ABJAD squares & diagrams surrounded by ABJAD watchers and shields was how they relate to embedded patterns in western magic squares. how do new forms manifest?

    IMMANENT-IMPLEX remains within subjective mind as intricate-entangled, complicated-complex; an all-embracing AMPLEXUS twining-embracing-around — its triggered unfolding accomplished by … DRAWING, ENGRAVING.

    Posted by: northanger at January 26, 2005 10:35 PM

    northanger – post coming (following up on some of your Pythagoras lines, hopefully in productively irritating fashion)

    Posted by: nick at January 27, 2005 03:04 AM

    nick – what does “Cthulhu Fhtagn” mean?

    Posted by: northanger at January 27, 2005 04:06 AM

    “Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wagn’nagl fhtagn.”
    “In his house in R’lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.”

    Posted by: northanger at January 27, 2005 04:09 AM

    northanger – reminds me of that Old song, how does it go? Oh yes: “Ia! Ia! Nglmuthullai, Nglmhupputai, Nglukkhumunnittai …”
    PPS. Tried AQing those sentences you cite? – kindov weird …
    PPPS. “Cthulhu Fhtagn” – Why not intimate to Reza and Tachi what the Old Ones have to say about them?

    Posted by: nick at January 27, 2005 12:51 PM

    “Why not intimate to Reza and Tachi what the Old Ones have to say about them?” – ok, but what the heck do you mean by CONTRA NUMEROLOGY?

    Posted by: northanger at January 27, 2005 03:52 PM



    00076=BALAM AQ’AB

    00106=IN WHOM THE SECRETS OF TRUTH 6332 HAVE THEIR ABIDING {Eighteenth Enochian Key}


    O Thou Mighty Light And Burning Flame Of Comfort; Which Opens The Glory Of God To The Center Of The Earth; In Whom The Secrets Of Truth 6332 {ERAN} Have Their Abiding; Which Is Called In Thy Kingdom Joy, And Not To Be Measured: Be Thou A Window Of Comfort Unto Me! Move And Appear! Open The Mysteries Of Your Creation! Be Friendly To Me, For I Am The Minister Of God, The True Worshiper Of The Highest!

    6332 Serpents. Becoming (that) autonomous oblivion within, (therefrom) invoking and becoming the dark mountain of the PeNI, which the beast says is available through his building of commitment. Nothing (none) is its form. The sunrise of the eternal becomes, is and is. The Ones sacrifice becomes more than the union with it, and the inner oblivion is (turned to become) the strength of the slaving servant. The kiss of continual oblivion by the axe provided by the Trinity; the cunning bolt’s work in the celebration of the fall of mine. Knowing obediance. Knowing time. The 31 visits with friendlyness the needing serpents. 22 doughnut forms feels birth, and that becomes the kiss of the Trinitys strong Fire; which becomes the thruth herearound. Saying; ideal shall the 6332’s comfort become. The One is absorbed into, lits up the towers of reflections. Shadows mingle and join the earth, mine attaining whirls around my arising.

    The call of ERAN summons something quite different from the table, that energy is serpentlike and of some elder kind. It is not like the kundalini force, but sembles more the vulcanic and infernal fire of this earth and also draconic forces in general. It has not shown great intelligence so far, and makes therefore the use of the table natural, even if its not eruptive or too chaotic to handle,but simply to witness the great processing of the crude material returning to its origin, seems to be the main motive of this table. Gods in the image of Lucifer did once initiate the isolate intelligence, but it was the dragons that continued the movement and did the final earthing of consciousness. This table seems capable to bring the lowest of consciousness back to the darkness beyond. And this state when successfully achieved is not just blessed and blissed but extremely lucid and Holy.*This makes this table convenient to use in one of the Black Schools highest aims: ceasing to relate to anything. The unique One knows everything by himself.

    *The easiest way to execute this ritual is by using the Call, Calling Rraaoplai, all the rooms with their interconnecting names, and the four guides.

    00172=BLACK MAGICK
    00172=FAR NORTH
    00172=IMAGE OF GOD
    00172=U UMLAUT

    00237=US MILITARY
    00237=HOLD CURRENT
    00237=LAPIS LAZULI
    00237=NIGHT LETTER
    00237=OVER THE CLIFF
    00237=THE CALL OF ERAN

    00219=POMO DICTUM
    00219={infamous bp phrase}
    00219=FOR GOD’S SAKE
    00219=THE ERAN TABLE

    Posted by: northanger at January 27, 2005 04:23 PM

    northanger – sometimes you frighten me

    Posted by: nick at January 27, 2005 04:28 PM

    as do you me.

    Posted by: northanger at January 27, 2005 04:36 PM

    notice eighteenth key = 1:8?

    Posted by: northanger at January 27, 2005 04:37 PM

    northanger – trouble is, among the bursts of shocking cosmic illumination are gnostic elements such as “00237=ELDER FUTHARK” – how many lifetimes (the pitiful nick puppet asks) would be required to thoroughly hack such pronouncements?

    “*The easiest way to execute this ritual is by using the Call, Calling Rraaoplai, all the rooms with their interconnecting names, and the four guides.” – ’nuff said.

    Posted by: nick at January 27, 2005 05:02 PM

    niki, you don’t know what an ELDER FUTHARK is?

    Posted by: northanger at January 27, 2005 06:13 PM

    The Runic alphabets are a set of related alphabets using letters known as runes, formerly used to write Germanic languages, mainly in Scandinavia, and the British Isles. In all their varieties, they may be considered an ancient writing system of Northern Europe. The Scandinavian version is also known as Futhark (from the first six letters, ??????), and the Anglo-Saxon version as Futhorc.

    The three best known runic alphabets are:

    • the Older Futhark (ca. 150–500)
    • the Anglo-Saxon Futhorc (400–1100)
    • the Younger Futhark (800–1910)

    The Elder Futhark (named after the initial phoneme of the first six rune names), sometimes also called proto-Nordic (urnordiska), consist of twenty-four runes, often arranged in three rows of eight. The earliest known full sequential listing of the alphabet dates from ca. 400 and is found on the Kylver Stone in Gotland.

    Posted by: northanger at January 27, 2005 06:31 PM

    The Runic alphabets are a set of related alphabets using letters known as runes, formerly used to write Germanic languages, mainly in Scandinavia, and the British Isles. In all their varieties, they may be considered an ancient writing system of Northern Europe. The Scandinavian version is also known as Futhark (from the first six letters, ??????), and the Anglo-Saxon version as Futhorc.

    The three best known runic alphabets are:

    • the Older Futhark (ca. 150–500)
    • the Anglo-Saxon Futhorc (400–1100)
    • the Younger Futhark (800–1910)

    The Elder Futhark (named after the initial phoneme of the first six rune names), sometimes also called proto-Nordic (urnordiska), consist of twenty-four runes, often arranged in three rows of eight. The earliest known full sequential listing of the alphabet dates from ca. 400 and is found on the Kylver Stone in Gotland.


    There are 24 Enochian Seniors and 24 Elders mentioned in Revelation 4.4:
    Revelation 4:4. 1After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.” 2At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven with someone sitting on it. 3And the one who sat there had the appearance of jasper and carnelian. A rainbow, resembling an emerald, encircled the throne. 4Surrounding the throne were twentyfour other thrones, and seated on them were twentyfour elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads.

    Posted by: northanger at January 27, 2005 06:36 PM

    northnager – “you don’t know what an ELDER FUTHARK is?” – Vauung tries to keep me away from wacky stuff …
    PS。 What’s the new 5-digit format all about?

    Posted by: nick at January 28, 2005 06:21 AM

    wacky stuff? then what am i doing here? i should have been long gone.

    Posted by: northanger at January 28, 2005 06:24 AM


    Posted by: northanger at January 28, 2005 06:27 AM

    >>> i’m preparing a list of all the things reza has promised us.

    ok, before answering your questions, add the following topics to your list:

    1. a technical response to u/c’s post about escaping faciality and Francis Bacon (from horror movies to geophilosophy).
    2. An update version of A Good Meal.
    3. Mutant Dead God (Merhige’s Begotten again)
    4. Hollow Earth and Doom 3
    5. Some funny stories about Hulagu … Nick loves this for sure.
    6. Archeological investigations about Ka’aba (will add it to the post about Salat)
    Posted by: Reza at January 28, 2005 07:19 AM

    8. a few copies of those shabnamehs

    9. decoded a few basic information about the name Jay

    (that’s a bogus list you got there)

    Posted by: northanger at January 28, 2005 07:40 AM

    ah! just remembered the diamonds of chaos by Llee Heflin:


    Posted by: northanger at January 28, 2005 07:48 AM


    Fortunately you missed some of them too 🙂

    Posted by: Reza at January 28, 2005 08:08 AM

    no i didn’t i’ll go collect the breadcrumbs and remind.

    Posted by: northanger at January 28, 2005 08:17 AM

    hey northanger (nor thanger, nort hanger, north anger?), have you seen the runeytunes over (see below)

    lots of big number jugglery goin on, they’ve recently spawned a host of msn groups (such an arabian thing to do)

    Posted by: url relevant to post at January 28, 2005 11:05 AM

    URTP – ???
    Oh, i see – eeuuuw!

    Posted by: nick at January 28, 2005 11:10 AM

    northanger, have you visited http://Mkzdk.org yet?

    Posted by: piet at January 28, 2005 04:25 PM

    URTP=111, i do recall the 13 moon calendar and the movement to change to change to this calendar (as a matter of fact, was checking my diary for the original link that talked about it).

    PIET, vaguely remember Mkzdk.org. probably saw it years ago. why do you bring it up?

    Posted by: northanger at January 28, 2005 09:42 PM

    why did you bring lee heflin up?

    ophef = hype/commotion or as verb simply ‘lifting’ or liquidating a business

    Posted by: piet at January 28, 2005 10:55 PM

    “why did you bring lee heflin up?” – i was reading a paper on frater achad’s tree of life physics – reminded me of the diamonds of chaos:



    Posted by: northanger at January 28, 2005 11:51 PM

    1. a technical response to u/c’s post about escaping faciality and Francis Bacon (from horror movies to geophilosophy).
    2. An update version of A Good Meal.
    3. Mutant Dead God (Merhige’s Begotten again)
    4. Hollow Earth and Doom 3
    5. Some funny stories about Hulagu … Nick loves this for sure.
    6. Archeological investigations about Ka’aba (will add it to the post about Salat)
    8. a few copies of those shabnamehs
    9. decoded a few basic information about the name Jay
    10. “Malek Tavoos (the diety worshipped by the Yezidians)” – haven’t you promised us a post on Mesopotamian ‘Mithraism’? — weren’t we (a long time ago) going to talk about the interesting yezidi script? === oh, yes, yes (sorry for this long delay) … will discuss it in one forthcoming posts on Mazdaism and mesopotamian Mithraism.
    11. i’ll get back to you soon about the flag and Kaveh

    Posted by: northanger at January 29, 2005 10:26 PM

    I really appreciate blogs like this one becuase it is insightful and helps me communicate with others.
    thanks.also, that guy billyz, I really need to talk to you about that cure you mentioned.

    Posted by: online pharmacy at January 31, 2005 07:18 PM

    I really appreciate blogs like this one becuase it is insightful and helps me communicate with others.
    thanks.also, that guy billyz, I really need to talk to you about that cure you mentioned.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    At least we have a backup copy now.

    Wagner, have you heard of the «White Order of Thule»? I’ve corresponded a bit with J. Kerrick, and I wrote a wiki article on them, with some help from Job “Senholt” Christiansen (who was working on a PhD dissertation on The Order of Nine Angles at the time), this is almost exactly a decade ago. The Wikipedia article used to be based on my Metapedia one.

    J. Kerrick is almost a perfect incarnation of a White nationalist Rick (from Rick and Morty), the man has/had brilliant synthetic ideas (but is surrounded by people obsessed with Jews I think).

    I’ve distanced myself from this collection of people and ideas because of their banalities, such as their manichean racism & antisemitism.

    Funny thing is these people that decry psychotherapy the most are among the ones who most-of-all tend to need a good Jewish psychotherapist! Like, their insecurities are figuratively leaking off them in psychosomatic presence.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    This one http://www.lleeheflin.com/939393/diamonds1.html does not seem to be archived. However, lots of the pages on that domain are.


    Wagner Reply:

    The White Order of Thule – never heard of it. Sounds like a proto-Antiversity I would’ve gotten behind (I imagine it’s underground now?) I didn’t know you’ve been in the game for so long. You wrote that back when UR started; MM never would have intersected with that kind of material. Back in 2007 I was reading Camus and Delillo like a basic bitch.

    I’m not an antisemite, I’m a Straussian for antichristsakes. Many right-wing Jews deserve the gulag a lot less than many 1488ers, as long as they don’t stick up for their poz-brothers (which they have a strong tendency toward).

    Regarding the Old Ones: straight-edgists can reach them through lucid dreaming. It’s very difficult to stay alert and also not wake up, it takes practice. But once you’re there you have seemingly unlimited freedom. Most people “fly” and/or “fuck Hermione Granger in the fourth year” but you can say “Show me God” and if your soul isn’t impure you will be taken to His/Its presence.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    What’s their fascination with the north?


    00172=BLACK MAGICK
    00172=FAR NORTH
    00172=IMAGE OF GOD
    00172=U UMLAUT

    00237=US MILITARY


    I, saw this post of yours today, but coincidentally sent this email before I went to sleep:

    ▬» Both Caesar and Jesus start their rising careers in neighboring states in the north: Gallia and Galilee.

    Both have to cross a fateful river: the Rubicon and the Jordan. Once across the rivers, they both come across a patron/rival: Pompeius and John the Baptist, and their first followers: Antonius and Curio on the one hand and Peter and Andrew on the other.

    Both are continually on the move, finally arriving at the capital, Rome and Jerusalem, where they at first triumph, yet subsequently undergo their passion.

    Both have good relationships with women and have a special relationship with one particular woman, Caesar with Cleopatra and Jesus with Magdalene.

    Both have encounters at night, Caesar with Nicomedes, Jesus with Nicodemus.

    Both of them are great orators and of the highest nobility, descendant of Aeneas and son of David, yet nevertheless both are self-made men. Both struggle hard and ultimately triumph, hence each has a ‘triumphal entry’: Caesar on horseback and Jesus on a donkey.

    Both have an affinity to ordinary people—and both run afoul of the highest authorities: Caesar with the Senate, Jesus with the Sanhedrin.

    Both are contentious characters, but show praiseworthy clemency as well: the clementia Caesaris and Jesus’ Love-thy-enemy.

    Both have a traitor: Brutus and Judas. And an assassin who at first gets away: the other Brutus and Barabbas. And one who washes his hands of it: Lepidus and Pilate.

    Both are accused of making themselves kings: King of the Romans and King of the Jews. Both are dressed in red royal robes and wear a crown on their heads: a laurel wreath and a crown of thorns.

    Both get killed: Caesar is stabbed with daggers, Jesus is crucified, but
    with a stab wound in his side.

    Both die on the same respective dates of the year: Caesar on the Ides (15 th) of March, Jesus on the 15 th of Nisan.

    Both are deified posthumously: as Divus Iulius and as Jesus Christ.

    Both leave behind priests: Marcus Antonius and Peter. Both have a posthumous heir: Gaius Octavianus adopted by Caesar’s Last Will and Testament and John the disciple whom Jesus adopts while on the cross (‘Woman, behold thy son!’).

    Now, there is one thing that stands out as being strikingly incongruous: Caesar was a commander, while Jesus was a thaumaturge.

    However, in his funeral oration for Caesar, Antonius depicted all of Caesar’s many great achievements as miracles.[45] These miracles of Caesar included the survival of a storm at sea[46] and even the raising of the dead: for the people took it to be a miracle that Caesar brought the honors of Marius ‘back from Hades into the city’ after many long years of Sulla’s dictatorship. [47]

    In turn, some of Jesus’ miracles concern the banishing of demons, which indeed represents the absolute, theological form of warfare.

    The picture we usually have in mind is of Caesar waging merciless war,[48]in stark contrast with Jesus preaching of love and bringing the Kingdom of God, which we assume to be one of peace, love and unity. This is in spite of the well-known passage:

    ‘Think not that I am come to send peace on earth; I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household’.[49]

    And Jesus continues by praising those who take his people in and give them victuals. Clearly, these are civil war conditions. Thus Jesus brings about the Kingdom of God explicitly through civil war—even if he did not desire to use such means—exactly as Caesar himself did.

    In turn, the clementia Caesaris is scarcely mentioned, if it is not completely ignored, even though Caesar meant it to be an important political statement:

    ‘Let this be the new policy of victory that we arm ourselves with mercifulness and liberality.’[50]

    This political program of love-your-enemies was carried out so consistently, that he perished[51]—like Jesus.

    Even the limitations to their clementia are the same: Caesar forgave all his enemies—except the repeat offenders who mocked his clementia;[52] Jesus forgave all sinners—except those who sinned against the Holy Spirit.[53] »

    The above is from http://www.carotta.de/subseite/texte/jwc_e/vp.html.

    Now, «Crossing the Abyss»* was a Left-Hand Path journal.

    * This particular aphorism (aphorismos “definition; short, pithy sentence”), which is the name of the journal, might come from Crowley?, although the concept of an Abyss and of crossing it is, I’d venture, as old as thought itself.



    Queen of The Wilis Reply:

    Elder Futhark,Enochian and Hold current?


    Posted on October 8th, 2017 at 3:18 am Reply | Quote
  • Wagner Says:

    I copy+pasted the page but it had lots of links in it so it’s awaiting moderation. Whenever it does that I think, Finally, Landh has blocked me, I am free, then it turns out it’s just links. In the meantime since I am puritanically, morally outraged that comments have to wait in MODERATION for having links, moderation, what an outrage, Freedom is my .. king. I would die for liberty! Die! here’s an early Cabbage Night rotten egg for the peeling facade of Land’s house:



    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Yes, I’ve pointed out the lack of dynamAI or high-enough-to-be-comfortable pattern recognition degree in this SpamAI Land has hired.

    However, it just requires self-improvement in memory recall to at least be able to post without failing this archaic Sphinx of a “test”.

    I have a post stuck as well. Too bad this retards the art of those who would make good use of hyperlinkage! Ancient litmus test of most griefful shibbolethism.

    As having your Samsung refinity crushed by stone idols.


    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    ↑ The above post should be read in the voice of The Simpson’s comicbook guy.


    Posted on October 8th, 2017 at 4:39 am Reply | Quote
  • Wagner Says:

    We’re getting to the point where some will have to travel to China to bust Land’s chops IRL, which is to say, punch Land between his mouth and nose. If we’re going to have a sorcerer hold the Right at a stalemate the only option left is physical force.


    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    I gotta say this is funny, the way you put it, but I don’t know if Land thinks it is. Also, we highly value Land so this sort of input (humor?) should cease as it is leftist.

    Btw., unrelated, from Jul. 6, 2017: «I’m a startup founder and I had sex with an investor — and I am sorry».


    Wagner Reply:

    Nothin shady about a Marxist accelerationist commandeering the forces unleashed by Moldbug. Nothin to see here, carry on! Pentheus got his head pulled off by his own mother, what I advocate is pretty tame.

    Those aliems I mentioned wanted me to go out to the woods but I was too scared. I was like “Why didn’t you come during the day when I was out in the woods earlier?” And they were like “We would have been seen you fscking idiot, night time is the only way.”


    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    You do realise that a lot of Marxists had already recognised capitalism as the most productive mode of production even before WW2?

    Idk, I think you sabotage your own goals. You say “Marxist” as if it has inherent meaning and badness. It doesn’t. It’s advisable to stick to dictionary definitions though, so far as one is not being colloquial or doing conscious re-definitions. “Marxism is the philosophical, sociological, political and economic analysis that explores class relations and societal conflict using a materialist interpretation of historical development and a dialectical view of social transformation.”

    Say Land did this—what of it? It does not equate that he’s a Communist. Communism is the ideal of a “stateless” “classless” society, you think Land believes in the institution of such a (utopian) thing?

    Do you even have a coherent position, or is even, what’s his name, punched-by-Antifa Mr. ethnostate beyond you in that regard?

    Wagner Reply:

    Marxist, Communist, scumbag, dirtbag, Timeaus, Timaeus.

    I just had a dream of Spencer, I told him I’m surprised he hasn’t been shot.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Why do you say that he is a Communist? Do you even know yourself? LOL

    Wagner Reply:

    Heh I didn’t read your “My story” until just now, there must be a subterranean dialectic going on RE: violence. Stephenson is next on my list after I finish investigating Cixin Liu.

    If Land were an accelerationist for the Right he’d be in the Academy pushing Communism. He’s trying to exhaust the allegedly “popurist” reaction to make way for a hyper-commie counter-reaction. If it turns out Land has been trolling me and not I him this whole time I’m gonna be pissed! I guess that is what one could expect to happen when one fucks with someone like Land. Nah.

    ‘0 Zarathustra, you philosophers’ stone, you slingshot-stone, you
    star-pulverizer! You threw yourself so high–but every upthrown
    stone–must fall!
    ‘Sentenced to yourself and to your own stoning: 0 Zarathustra,
    far indeed you threw the stone–but onto you will it come falling


    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    He’s trying to exhaust the allegedly “popurist” reaction to make way for a hyper-commie counter-reaction.

    What sort of Communism is he trying to instate—like in Cuba, or the Soviet Union? Why would he try that, we’ve all seen how it went in a few decades past century?

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    The White Order of Thule – never heard of it. Sounds like a proto-Antiversity I would’ve gotten behind (I imagine it’s underground now?) I didn’t know you’ve been in the game for so long. You wrote that back when UR started; MM never would have intersected with that kind of material. Back in 2007 I was reading Camus and Delillo like a basic bitch.

    Alright Wagotron, I’ve comm-piled a “my story” since you seemed interested in it. And also for my own narcissistic supply.

    Shit, now I realize the title of the article is sort of like «My Struggle.» Jk.


    Posted on October 9th, 2017 at 8:23 am Reply | Quote
  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    What do you know about Evola’s mega-ritual?

    The little about it I have read I have forgotten. Btw. nothing beyond what’s on the Internet.


    Posted on October 9th, 2017 at 9:55 am Reply | Quote
  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    “One small step for man, one giant LARP for mankind!”


    Is this your creation?

    Yes, this is spawned out of the actions of the psychosomatic teleoplexium you know as G. Eiríksson.

    Nick “Outsideness” Land
    Crowley – robe designer


    Ikr. 😀

    We must add Nick Sand into the picture.

    We must.


    Wagner Reply:

    Yes, that’s a synchronicity that can’t be passed up.


    Posted on October 9th, 2017 at 12:00 pm Reply | Quote
  • Wagner Says:


    This is me talking about DMT:


    Eliphas Levi says there are certain experiences we shouldn’t talk about because people will write us off as liars or fools. Insectoid aliens come to mind for me. Even among fellow schizos (as the Apollonians call us) there is solitude rather than solidarity. We’re united only in our loneliness. This is highly experimental though so I won’t blame you if you don’t try it. The South American shamans had millennia of experience with ayahuasca but never in the concentrated form pioneered by Nick Sand. I had one friend who refused to try it on the grounds that it might mess up whatever happens at death, since Deem is released at death and during near-death experiences. This I take to be a somewhat valid worry. We don’t know what we’re messing with here. I listened to the audiobook Shadow Out of Time today and Lovecraft’s speculation about beings that can escape death by traveling to the future seems like a prophecy to me. We really don’t know what we’re messing with here, this is pandora’s box in a powder.


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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    Wagner, I have a mission for you: I want you to befriend Anissimove and get him to start writing for your cult.


    Wagner Reply:

    Starting a cult in your 20s is trigger-happy, the young should be in Camel-mode at least until their 40s–anything less is irreverence toward the ancestors. In Ecce Homo N says we should be wary of over-reading but this is an instance among many where he says one thing and does the opposite (he himself read extensively to say the least).

    I had a “dream” of Satan/Set/Aiwass last night, concentration on a sigil can take you to heaven and hell. Lovecraft thought this thing was evil, Crowley thought it was the God of the New Aeon. My visceral impression is that it’s evil but I’m not positive – the divine has that mysterium tremendum et fascinas quality so it’s inherently terrifying, maybe that’s what it is. I think I’ll have to join some fucked up cult to find out. The O. T. O. lodge, to my great despair, has officially knelt to pozdom:

    “It is no secret that Aleister Crowley’s writings include a number of statements that are demeaning to women and to specific racial or ethnic groups. We make no attempt here to justify or explain away those statements. They are what they are, and they are now part of our history as an organization. However, at this time, we find that ideas of the inherent superiority of one sex over the other, or of the inherent superiority or inferiority of specific “races” or ethnicities of humanity, relative to each other, are not supported by the best science, and are contrary to our stated goals of promulgating the Law of Thelema and realizing the age-old vision of the Universal Brotherhood of Man, which includes all Humankind. Therefore, the U.S. Grand Lodge of Ordo Templi Orientis hereby formally and unequivocally rejects all such ideas. O.T.O. draws strength from diversity; we welcome the participation and friendship of Thelemites of all sexes, genders, “races,” and ethnic groups, and from all cultures; and we are committed to opposing their unfair treatment, within and without the Order. We further remain committed to opposing ideas and doctrines–whether religious, political, philosophical, or pseudo-scientific–that tend toward the enslavement of the human spirit, which indwells “every man, every woman, and every intermediately-sexed individual.”
    Adopted unanimously, An. Viii Sol in Leo, Luna in Leo; 20 August, 2017 e.v.
    Formally ratified and endorsed by the Executive and National Grand Master General, same date.
    Unanimously endorsed by the Electoral College, 22 August, 2017 e.v.”

    *projectile vomits self like a rocket into space*

    This reminds me of how the Nietzsche Society chairs are all women. Did.. you boys forget about the whip?


    Wagner Reply:

    OH WAIT, I’m already in Land’s fucked up cult.


    I was at a ceremony with hooded figures and they were handing each other something in a circle around a ? fire? – it was evil whatever it was – and I kept getting the sense that if I absorbed myself in the ceremony there was a chance I would lose my soul forever.


    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Okay, but I want you to be a friend to Michael Anissimov, and to get him to write for us and do psychedelics even. Some people would pay for reading his psychonautica.

    ▬» “White nationalists” are a boogeyman that doesn’t exist, except for maybe Harold Covington. Why is that? Because even the most ardent white racialists are not willing to move or relocate to nearly-all-white areas and perform the hard work of proto-nation building and consolidation. They prefer more comfortable areas with preexisting healthy economies that are already multiracial. Since these areas will never become all white, and nearly all “white racialists” are unwilling to move, there is no white nationalism. White nationalism is a meme that doesn’t exist in real life ». He’s mostly right here.

    God bless.


    Wagner Reply:

    How do you expect me to marshal that? Random cyber-denizen knock knock Hey are you aware of the entheogen/transhumanism connection? I do like his temperament though, it seems like that would be up his alley. What ever happened to him anyway? I arrived on the scene when he was mostly memoryholed. I’m willing to bet that the majority of those who aren’t incels have been driven to humiliating desperation about some girl at one time or another, he just had the misfortune of having it happen on a public, copy+pastable forum lolol. There’s one cougar out there that has a bunch of embarrassing loveletters I sent her that she may leak some day, think igaf? *clears throat* Don’t do that, they’re um, Napoleonic anyway, see if I care.

    A white ethnostate wouldn’t work as things stand now due to the pity-gene carried by most whites. If we had a state white as sunlight many would start “feeling bad” for the nigaro nigaro nigaroooos. Need to invasively go in there and scalpel it out, or eugenically breed it out. As things stand, a white ethnostate is a fantasy. I mean, there’s no hurt in tryin’. Vermont for instance is overbrimming with shitlibs and it’s only a matter of time before pity’s whisper turns into a screech in their consciences.


    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    He had some sort of breakdown, apparently. We should interview him. I’ll do it. If anyone knows how to contact him, let me know.

    Posted on October 10th, 2017 at 11:00 am Reply | Quote
  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    I’ve figured it out, Wagnie. You are a communist in denial.

    Not that I didn’t know before, I just figured a new depth of it. Communism properly means no work. I.e. you get to read all day. Trip in the afternoon. And worry about nothing, because it’s each man according to his share.

    That’s what you want. You don’t want a capitalism that’s ascending ever higher in bourgeoise consumption — i.e. a new smartphone every 6 months. (I have a 1.200$ smartphone myself, Samsung Note 8 — it has not made me happier. People make me happy, not devices.)

    And you don’t want to be in war. Otherwise you would join a mercenary force.

    Race is one thing, but nothing would secure race as much as authoritarian capitalism (as you see in China e.g).

    You don’t want to save the White race as much as you want to Blame somebody. And that’s leftism. The gospel of envy!

    You want parades. You’re stuck at infantilism, which is a shame because you’re very sharp. Your interest would be far better served in agorism or even just working with the system at changing it. But you want the grandstanding. The wagner. The Hitler. The emotion erupted. The Play. The Drama. And the LOSS. This is a need for tragedy, for losing. But with a bang. You’re not that different from Islamist terrorists.

    But this is hopeless, Baghdadi. It will only make us stronger.


    Wagner Reply:

    It makes proles frown with envious anger to say but the only real labor is reading texts that take you to the brink of insanity and divorce you from common humanity. Dot the countryside with monasteries, Donald! And I already said, I haven’t chript for over a year, s’why I’m saying we need to go internationally so we can engage in the real (spiritual) labor. I can hear the str8-edge drones now, “Yap yap yap why don’t you just do it naturally?” I’ve been meditating for years and can only reach states roughly equivalent to a mild dose of mushrooms. DMT is 100x as potent as mushrooms. Do you want to go Outside or not?

    High-pitched, talking to an English setter voice: “C’mon Land, wanna go outside, wanna go outside? C’mon boy, c’mon!”

    “But I want to ride the Apollonian baloney pony into the Western sunset.”

    “Badddd, baddddd. No.”

    “Your interest would be far better served in agorism or even just working with the system at changing it.”

    Oh yeah, I’d be teaching hungover freshmen the logical fallacies and a defanged version of Nietzsch right now if I went with that option. Sounds glamorous.

    “You’re not that different from Islamist terrorists.”

    Eyy whatsamattuh wit dat? I like dare moxie.


    Wagner Reply:

    “No self-respecting individual would try DMT.”

    “There is no such thing as a gentle introduction to UR. It’s like talking about a “mild DMT trip.” If it was mild, it wasn’t DMT.” – Mencius Moldbug, “A gentle introduction to Unqualified Reservations (part 1)”


    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Oh yeah, I’d be teaching hungover freshmen the logical fallacies and a … version of Nietzsch right now if I went with that option. Sounds glamorous.

    Die Welle.



    Wagner Reply:

    Ha, they had us watch that in an early high school class. Eyeronically, watching that was a sort of “Die Welle” itself only for anti-nazi red white n blue nazism kekkity kek kek. Yep, if le cathedral keeps this up the kids are going to rebel more and more from being fed bullshit history (not to give them any advice to prevent this). Like it’s so hard to tell us the truth instead of treating us like machines.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    ▬» My background is relevant to the issue so I’ll include it. I’m just turned twenty and I am male in my sophomore year of college. My parents were well-intentioned and good people who made a number of mistakes when I was growing up due to the way they were themselves raised. I grew up obese and addicted to my computer with little attention from parents and no friends at all until late high school. I changed schools many times and we moved around a lot, and I was very antisocial and had severe behavioral and emotional issues. I had no outlets for any of this, and I developed into the typical picture of “middle class angry white obese friendless virgin” type of person. Very lazy, self-hating, loud, obnoxious, depressed, etc. Around when I started HS, I became very entrenched in TRP/MRA/ultra-libertarian type forums and communities and I used those politics as a way of justifying my resentment and issues without needing to force myself to change. I was never publicly vocal about any of this with any of my peers, I never posted things about it or talked about it with other people, and I never sunk to the depths of say ethno-nationalism or such things, but I had a large amount of radical and disturbing beliefs that were founded in negativity. My entire lifestyle revolved around finding people to blame for my status other than myself. »


    Wagner Reply:

    Right, there’s nothing to be boiling mad about in this world. (I hope you haven’t been seeing a Jewish therapist.)

    Wagner Reply:

    “Yeah, he said he wanted to saw off an entertainment-Jew’s head and have sex with it. The creepy part is he didn’t seem like he was kidding…”

    *Weinstein scandal divulged*

    “Ooooooh, okay, I can see that.”

    Wagner Reply:

    Hohohohohahahahahaha he is the one behind Inglorious Basterds and The Hateful Eight???? The gods are on our side hahahahahaha

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Nota bene, I am not the dude who makes the Reddit post. I doubt that fella ever stumbled upon Landie ol’ fella. But no doubt there are a few sociopaths (i.e. people with psychosocial pathology) attracted to Land’s.

    Not that Land is racist, but some readers, including you, might consider this Exit: http://www.exitusa.org

    Race is a nuanced issue though. I’m n-not rayciss myself, but I think people should be able to say words like “nigger” without it being a big deal — I mean, I saw Pulp Fiction when I was like 10 or 12 and Quintin Tarantino said it. Too late to prevent that impression. I was listening to 2Pac at 14. Obviously, nigga, this whole nanny-owning discourse is nuts. Like, the recent Google guy who got fired thing. I don’t seek to put down people just because they’re Black. What am I gonna go say “Jay-Z, you ain’t worth nothing cause you’re Black” and at the same time admire the guy for his talents as I listen to his music? Or Michael Jordan? Or more underground Black artists in Techno & other electronic music?

    No, motherfucker, nigrum is an Indo-Euroean Latin word and you’re never gonna own it or its derivatives — nor do you own African words, nor do I own Icelandic words. Words are just too easy to copy, to mimic, to claim ownership or rulership over single words. Sure, you can dictate how I speak in your house or your polity, but as long as I am in cyberspace or in public, or private property: any word is mine to use.

    Just you people gotta realize we grew up on this shit. We were “White” teenagers listening to African-Americans in L.A. calling each other niggas, and those neuro-associations formed then. Like, you ain’t gonna get no stars for being phobic about words — it’ll just make you weak in life.

    Wagner Reply:

    “My grandson has subhuman cognitive horsepower but at least he can rhyme single-syllable words and swoosh three-pointers.”

    Posted on October 11th, 2017 at 9:30 pm Reply | Quote
  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    Wagnie, msg me on Twitter. I’m @apocalyptocrat

    Btw here you go https://www.reddit.com/r/sorceryofthespectacle/ fellas of your [missing word]


    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Wagnie, you little dick pundit.



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  • Wagner Says:

    Land’s argument runs as follows: Intelligence is the supreme deity, there is no God before Intelligence; the leftist jews at the levers of mytho-poesis are intelligent; therefore we should focus our energies on “the Cathedral”. Well, in my book, leftists are by their very nature not intelligent, so it seems we need a new IQ test to judge whether an individual has excessive, biblically-induced pity neuroses or not before we stamp him OR HER as “smart”. Verbal trickery was known two and a half millennia ago as “sophistry” and I think that is playing a massive hand in current political events. “Oily shysterism” it’s sometimes called, or the general ability to *distract from truth*. I quoted Gadamer here once shamelessly saying Jews have this problem specifically. You think you can dabble in “‘R’evelation” that long without incurring negative irrational damages? This is white people’s fault too, it’s their constitution the Jews are treating as their New-Scripture. The difference is, there’s a conspicuous amount of Jews putting spells on the white population, and if they went away,…. I’m not sure there would be a Cathedral standing anymore 🙂


    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Dude, ethno-polities disappear without any Jews. Look at history. India used to be ruled by Whites. Indo-European Vedics. Even as late as the Buddha some of the nobles are described as bright-skinned and bright-eyed. The Buddha himself is, in the oldest Buddhist scripts (Pali). We had Whites in China (Tocharians)

    Our groups have often gone loose with mating with browns & mongoloids—it doesn’t need the Jews. They’re just a symptom, the anti-racist Jew influence you are referring to, are a symptom of a recent (current) case. Not the cause.

    You have e.g. the Kushan Empire disappear, The Maurya Empire, dozens of Aryan Italic tribes (conquered or assimilated with the Romans), so-called Celtic tribes (conquered & assimilated with the Romans). Hell, you know that the landmass of what became the Russian empire was ruled by Germanic tribes, that disappeared as well?

    Also, non-White polities have come and gone in their hundreds, thousands!


    Wagner Reply:

    Yup, post-war white people suck. If all the leftwing jews pissed off to Israel we’d still suck, but we’d suck less. The nazis were idiots in one direction, now the shitlibs and jews are being idiots in the opposite direction. The jews – our rabbi-caste – are carrying out revenge on the white rabble for trying to screw up their prophecy that they’re the chosen people meant to bring about One Love. They’re not fit to be our rabbis, they still have residual spite for what happened only less than a century ago. They don’t understand love, which is love-of-the-overman, their minds are clouded by hatred, which is love-of-the-last-man. Macrocosmically, the jews are our hysterical wife; we need to be the strong husband that puts her in her place. “Honey we’re taking in this poor emaciated dog.” “That’s a fucking coyote! If it dies it dies, we have more important things to worry about you utter nut.”


    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Wagner why don’t you just furgiddabout th’ whole thing and get a decent neotenous petite busty Asian wife?

    Wagner Reply:

    I’ve been with a couple hot Koreans ackshually; not my cuppa tea. Asian girls ime tend be smart and dainty but there’s something missing, they’re socially inept in a way. So much for anecdote. One of them is higher IQ than me by at least 10 points I’d reckon and stalks me with demands to marry her – the Land-Panopticon makes me consider it… but at the end of the day I know he’s a lying leftist like all the rest. White should go with white, that’s how it’s supposed to be. But if there are any 789-eyed 13/10 alienbabes in the outer spheres reading this I may make an exception.

    Wagner Reply:

    Crowley thought he would reincarnate into an Asian woman but she’d be a grandma by now. Fusion of white and yellow may be eugenically sound in certain cases but I’ll leave it to others to be the guinea pigs. And while I’m here: Happy Bday N who thought Buddhism was at a maturer stage of spirituality than Christianity. I don’t really take him at his word with a lot of things though: on one hand he was a proto-hipster and sought to do the opposite for the opposite’s sake; on the other he exaggerated the strength of the West’s enemies in order to put it to death so as to more quickly kick off the next cycle.

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  • Wagner Says:

    CTRL+F “buzzing” in this


    Many who smoke DMT also report a “buzzing” phenomenon.

    Not to sound new-agey but this buzzing isn’t *heard* ime but felt in the heart-chakra.

    To paraphrase N from BGE, all we need to realize that we’re not gods is to look down and realize we have torsos.

    This alien buzzing is but one rung on the long ladder of the order of rank that will be surpassed.

    Aliens on other planets have a Xeno-DMT they smoke that takes them to higher dimensions that we can’t fathom the simulacrum of the simulacrum of the simulacrum of the simulacrum of the simulacrum of.

    Arms for instance strike me as monkey bullshit, we’ll have telekinesis for that if we play our cards right.


    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Yeah, vectors like in Elfen Lied.


    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Alright, imma take the biggest dose of mushrooms I’ve taken.

    Because this came on «Take a Daytrip».

    And because my sis put a bag of mushrooms into my grocery bag that grandpa delivered up to grandma’s cabin where I’m staying at. On great grandfather’s land whose name was G. as well. Great cabin. Great scenery. Great mountains. Great hell.

    I fucking hate the taste of these type of mushrooms. It makes me cringe. It’s gonna be tough eating them. Usually I just eat a few.

    I sent my Slovakian love I love her. She hasn’t been answering. I did dream she answered. I also spoke to her through my heart.

    I should read more of /liquid_light_of_sex_kundalini_astrology_and_the_key_life_transitions.pdf


    Wagner Reply:

    Eat all of them! I hate the taste too but once I’m peaking I always wish I’d eaten more. And for future reference buy some syrian rue or banisteriopsis caapi online and prep and eat that a half hour before the mushrooms – it DOUBLES their potency and enhances the trip qualitatively. Just adhere strictly to MAOI diet regulations. Both of these MAOIs taste awful but, again, worth it. You can grind and encapsulate the rue (speculated to be the soma of the Hindus) whereas you have to brew the caapi and drink the groace concoction.


    Posted on October 15th, 2017 at 5:51 am Reply | Quote

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